User talk:Celtus/Archive 2008 November

Canadian heraldry[edit]

Many thanks! The article is far from complete--I want a section on the status of women in Canadian heraldry (strict primogeniture for inheritance, women use shields not lozenges), corporate heraldry (there's some interesting stuff about the Hudson's Bay Company's COA), religious & educational institutions... I'll get that thing to FA one day! [ roux ] [x] 14:33, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

surname[edit]

This is my last name and I've been researching it for a while, as you clearly have as well. I've added references to prove that this name is in fact a sept of a Scottish clan. The name is from Northern Scotland. --63.245.238.226 (talk) 19:58, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Its just that dodgy websites selling 'family coats of arms' and clan sept lists isn't research. Do you have a real reference from something that was published? The sept stuff doesn't amount to much other than it appears on a list. Sept lists exist to lure the wide-eyed into joining clan societies, not to give reliable etymologies on surnames. Look at this link, it lists 25,630 British names recorded in censuses and birth/death registers. The surname doesn't turn up... Look at this link, the surname is most frequent in Slovenia by far. The surname is found in the UK at 0.07 times per million people... so that means out of 60 million there's about one family with the name.--Celtus (talk) 06:43, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I definitely agree with you--I just thought it was worthy of being mentioned. It even says it on Wikipedia's site about the Mackintosh clan. --63.245.238.226 (talk)19:58, 14 November 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.139.121.205 (talk)[reply]

Well, no one can dispute the fact that it appears on a sept list. My thinking was that is was kinda giving undo weight to the Scottish/Irish origin, since the reference used (from Dictionary of American Family Names, Oxford University Press) doesn't mention this angle at all... Especially considering the stated central European origin of the name, and the fact that the name is most frequent there as well. Anyways, linked it to Dallas (name).--Celtus (talk) 08:04, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tartan[edit]

Hi Celtus! Jza84 suggested me about you. I'm looking for a Fife District tartan's picture. May u help me? Thanks! Amiens984 (talk) 16:33, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. There seems to be a couple Fife tartans listed at the Scottish Tartans World Register (you can search it yourself):

One of those is called a district tartan, but its really modern (90s). I don't think there is an official one recognised by the Fife government/council. Read this:

Another example would be the Fife district tartan. In 1880 two tartans were designed for the wedding of Princess Louise, daughter of Edward VII, to Alexander Duff, the first Duke of Fife. The tartans were called Duke and Duchess of Fife, and were the same except for where the Duke of Fife had red lines, the Duchess of Fife had blue. While the Duchess of Fife tartan is no longer in production, the Duke of Fife is. It has remained popular because it has been used as a district tartan for Fife, and is in fact more often referred to as the Fife District tartan, or simply the Fife tartan, than the Duke of Fife tartan. A tradition of use gives this tartan some weight.

This is despite the fact that at least two other tartans have been designed for the Fife region. In 1992 tartan specialist Trudi Mann was commissioned to design a Fife tartan. And later still, in 1998, David McGill, owner of Edinburgh-based company International Tartans, designed yet another Fife tartan. On his web site, McGill claims his Fife tartan to have been adopted by the Fife Council “by using it for fittings and furnishings in the Council Chambers.” The question of whether the use of a certain tartan for your upholstery constitutes official adoption aside, neither of these two latter Fife tartans have proven as popular (at least yet) as the Duke of Fife tartan. Walk into any tartan shop and ask for the “Fife tartan.” Chances are good that the Duke of Fife is what you will be shown. (from this link)

Seems like you can choose from those whatever one you want.--Celtus (talk) 08:21, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I made an image of the duke of fife one. You can tile it and it'll keep on continuing.--Celtus (talk) 09:44, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great! It's fantastic! That's exactly wht I was looking for! Thank u very much! Can I upload it in commons? Amiens984 (talk) 10:58, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your welcome! I just uploaded it to the commons (under the same name). Here's the link.--Celtus (talk) 07:09, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Amiens984 (talk) 12:03, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Terence Francis MacCarthy[edit]

Hi thanks for the note. I've heard of the TFM thing, but the kings seems to be fairly accurate going by this. I think it was just the latter part of his ancestry that he forged to make it appear as though his family were from Munster and descended from the ancient Desmond kings, but his own family are actually from Belfast if I remember correctly. Kilfeno (talk) 17:40, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]