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VisualEditor newsletter • 19 December 2013

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some toolbar improvements, fixing bugs, and improving support for Indic languages as well as other languages with complex characters. The current focus is on improving the reference dialog and expanding the new character inserter tool.

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A typical Nepali meal
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PHOX

I deleted the redirect that was in the way for you, if you want to finish handling Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/PHOX yourself. Cheers, Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 11:38, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

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recently declined submission

You recently declined my page for On Stage with Mantis. I have worked on this TV show for 5 years and feel it meets the criteria of notability more than hundreds of other shows that have pages. I have seen pages with only one vague reference. I have two news articles mentioning the show as references. I have seen other pages of prominent shows referenced to other pages. I think referring to the notable people that have been on the show offers status of notability. Unfortunately, most of what I have done in life is under confidentiality agreements. I think being a multi-book author and veteran of the music industry beyond a TV producer merits recognition. Perhaps being judged by those that have no significant past achievements is wrong. Having created a live concert series from nothing that has reached viewers in 145 countries is notable. Being one of the fastest rising non-commercial celebrities on IMDb is also notable. MantisKhiralla (talk) 17:19, 28 December 2013 (UTC)user:MantisKhiralla

Hi there buffbills7701,

you recently declined a duplicate submission I had accidentally made for Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Premier Pizza. I was wondering if you were also the one reviewing the main version Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Premier Pizza (2). My main concern is that the Premier Pizza (2) page also gets declined for being a duplicate (which is how it became Premier Pizza (2) in the first place and resulted in my creating another duplicate!!). Is there any way we can make a note on the Premier Pizza (2) page to let any reviewers know that it is not a duplicate, it is the only one meant for submission? i.e. simply making a note at the top of the page? (If this is the case there is no need for you to read the attached correspondence)

Below is some correspondence with another editor who helped me with this issue the first time it arose. Hopefully it will clear up the sequence of events and better enable you to offer advice.

Thank you in advance for any advice or help you can offer.

Tyler

" Greetings!

I recently ran into some interesting issues when attempting to post my first wikipedia article and was hoping you had some insights to share or advice to give. My article was declined due to it being a duplicate of a declined page you subsequently deleted for abandonment. I have since resubmitted my article under my original page as well as the page you deleted (I resubmitted the former before understanding the abandoned status of the latter) I believe this move may have confused the resubmission process or otherwise been a wikipedia faux pas.

I would greatly appreciate any help you would be willing to give. for more information and links to the pages in question please see the following correspondence I submitted to User:MatthewVanitas

Thanks! Tyler Scott

Hi Matthew,

I recently submitted an article on “Primier Pizza” (now titled Premier Pizza 2) for review to be published on Wikipedia. Unfortunately, my submission was declined by yourself due to there already existing a page with a similar or same title. I was referred to the following link, in order that I could request additions and edits to the page, or otherwise contact its author.

Upon following the link I found that the previously existing article had been deleted by User:Sphilbrick due to the page being "abandoned" (I have since submitted my content to the abandoned page). Before doing this however, due to my wiki naivety and because the original page had been deleted, I simply fixed the coding issues and resubmitted my article "Premier Pizza (2)" for review, per available instructions. So I now have the same article pending review under the abandoned page "Premier Pizza" as well as the duplicate (my original submission) now titled "Premier Pizza 2".

As a new user this is a rather confusing situation to be in and I was wondering if there are any other (preferably expedited) resubmission or appeal processes I should be considering, or if there are any other potential issues which may impede the publication of this article (i.e. should I delete one of the submissions, fix anymore coding etc...).

Any help or advice you would be willing to offer would be greatly appreciated.

Best, Tyler Scott

P.S. I will also be sending a copy of this contact to User:Sphilbrick in hopes he may have some insight as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tyler.tw. (talk • contribs) 18:44, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, I'm not completely following the sequence. I have some thoughts, and will see if I can figure it out. Have a couple other things I need to check first and will return to in in an hour or so.--S Philbrick(Talk) 23:11, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘Here's what the sequence looks like to me:

  • Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Premier Pizza Originally created 1 February (in user sandbox)
  • Worked on and improved in February
  • Moved from sandbox to AfC in March, then declined as not suitable for main space
  • Abandoned with no edits between March and October
  • Tagged as possible G13 due to lack of activity
  • Deleted as G13 on 24 October
  • Restored on 7 November. Not sure why
  • On same day Premier Pizza (2) also created

The new version has more refs. I haven't looked closely at either, but suspect it is not yet ready for prime time. I think the best thing to do is:

Have Tyler.tw. confirm that Premier Pizza (2) is the better version If so, and no one disagrees, I'll delete the original, MatthewVanitas will withdraw the objection on the basis of duplication, and Premier Pizza (2) will continue the process, with a renaming if and when ready for main space.

I urge Tyler.tw. to ask for advice at Wikipedia:Teahouse, as it is unlikely to survive without some work.

Is this OK with you MatthewVanitas? --S Philbrick(Talk) 00:43, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi Sphilbick, Thank you for the detailed response! I was hoping to have gotten some input from MatthewVanitas by now so we could continue to move forward. However, according to his page he is on :vacation until December 1st. I understand this will delay the plan of action you proposed for continuing my submission along the publication process. It may be just a matter of patience at this point, :however if you have any more advice on navigating this process I would love the help.

Also, I will definitely look into Wikipedia:Teahouse for further information, and would greatly appreciate any input you may have as to the content of my submission.

Thanks! Tyler — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tyler.tw. (talk • contribs) 19:54, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Tyler.tw., we shouldn't have to wait that long. I can't imagine that MatthewVanitas will object, we'll address that if it happens.

I added a note to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Premier Pizza indicating it is not the best version. I removed the declination on Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Premier Pizza (2), so go ahead and work on that.--S Philbrick(Talk) 20:06, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

Great! Thank you so much for all the help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tyler.tw. (talk • contribs) 21:49, 14 November 2013 (UTC)"

Tyler.tw. (talk) 17:31, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Article Resque Squadron

If you'd like to do your WikiProject Report on Article Resque Squadron sooner, just let me know which week you'd like. Most of the stuff I've scheduled for the next two months are not set in stone. –Mabeenot (talk) 23:15, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

A beer for you!

I really appreciate that you revert a false positive from Cyderbot on Mike Morgan (broadcaster). Although I didn't see it, I read that you revered a false positive on my watchlist. Ashbeckjonathan (talk) 02:10, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Declined submission (2)

You recently declined my page for On Stage with Mantis. I have worked on this TV show for 5 years and feel it meets the criteria of notability more than hundreds of other shows that have pages. I have seen pages with only one vague reference. I have two news articles mentioning the show as references. I have seen other pages of prominent shows referenced to other pages. I think referring to the notable people that have been on the show offers status of notability. Unfortunately, most of what I have done in life is under confidentiality agreements. I think being a multi-book author and veteran of the music industry beyond a TV producer merits recognition. Perhaps being judged by those that have no significant past achievements is wrong. Having created a live concert series from nothing that has reached viewers in 145 countries is notable. Being one of the fastest rising non-commercial celebrities on IMDb is also notable. MantisKhiralla (talk) 17:19, 28 December 2013 (UTC)user:MantisKhiralla

Yes, but this article still needs a lot of work. It needs inline citations, only has two references, and doesn't really show notability. Once you establish that, I'm sure it will be accepted, but right now, it needs a lot of work. buffbills7701 12:25, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

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Unjust accusation of making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia

Hi, a while ago you undid a change I made to the entry for the From Hell Letter in connection with the Jack The Ripper case. You wrote: ″Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at From Hell letter. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Administrators can block users from editing if they repeatedly vandalize. Thank you. buffbills7701 21:35, 8 January 2014 (UTC)″ — Please note, however, that the changes I made were corrections and not unconstructive edits at all. If you take 5 minutes to compare the transcript of the letter and the image that appears next to it, you will see that the transcript formerly contained several errors that I corrected, and which you now put back in there again... Thanks in advance for your attention. 164.77.245.34 (talk) 21:53, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

I have taken a look at the source and have found that you are indeed correct. My deepest apologies. buffbills7701 22:10, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

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re: Your submission at AfC Voice to skull was accepted

Thank you very much Buffbills7701 for taking the time and effort to review and accept my submission. It has been a long wait and you have made my day :). - Synsepalum2013 (talk) 22:42, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

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Image help

Can somebody revert to this version of File:ECCMap.png?

I have taken a look and can see no difference between that version of the image and the current one. What exactly has changed? If those versions are identical, I'd prefer not reverting them. Huon (talk) 01:53, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
Must have been my browser taking forever to purge. Sorry. buffbills7701 01:55, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
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Hello I added two new references to my article for submission. can you please tell me if it is accepted? Did I correctly submit it ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Miray1 (talkcontribs) 22:06, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

If it is accepted, the article will not have the "Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/" title on the top. Right now, it hasn't been accepted. buffbills7701 22:09, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

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The life sciences involve the study of living organisms
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St. Louis Track Club

Hi.

My article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/St_Louis_Track_Club) was rejected.

I'm brand new to adding content to Wikipedia and was hoping you could translate the reason in plain talk for me:

'This submission's references do not adequately evidence the subject's notability—see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing, so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. What you can do: Add citations (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners) to secondary reliable sources that are entirely independent of the subject.'


1. What does it mean to improve the referencing?

2. How many new references do I need?

3. How close or far are we from meeting the notability requirement?

thanks! Anna — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anna Jones 28 (talkcontribs) 22:10, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

First off, to improve the referencing you can find more sources. There is no officially specified "bar", but I think one or two sources might help. Finally, in question 3, the answer can be given through this link. Hope this helps getting your article published! buffbills7701 22:14, 4 February 2014 (UTC)