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Bookofsecrets Archive 1[edit]

Sock puppet[edit]

This user looks suspiciously like yet another sock puppet of User:4.152.96.220/User:4.152.156.212/User:Bumpusmills1/User:WECoyote. He's editing the same articles. If that's the case, then he's evading two prior bans. --BWD 04:55, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. His edits to the page Help! (film) are indicative. I have marked him as such on his userpage with {{sockpuppet}}Scm83x talk 05:03, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You guys live and perform on the double standard. It is cheap tactics as far as I'm concerned. You guys have given me nothing but grief. I have challenges letting wars go. Too me this is a war. A war of minds. I am a warrior. I care not what Waya Sahoni or any of you think of my heritage and background. I know who I am and that's all that matters. Many have altered or eliminated my hard work and it was not appreciated. However, when I alter or eliminate I catch HELL for it and they waltz off like lil' lord fortleroy (excuse spelling). I may start a petition online to make Wikipedia illegal and eliminated it all. --Bookofsecrets 12:40, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome to start a petition to eliminate Wikipedia. That doesn't mean we're going anywhere. If you want it to go away, I suggest you call Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. and tell them that personally. --BWD 14:26, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not calling the Wikipedia Foundation. I'll start a petition and have it shipped off the Congress to become a law. In the event Congress passes the legislation into law then you guys won't have a place to force others into your silly molds. --Bookofsecrets 00:25, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Personal attacks at Talk:Cherokee society[edit]

Please do not make personal attacks on other people. Wikipedia has a policy against personal attacks. In some cases, users who engage in personal attacks may be blocked from editing by admins or banned by the arbitration committee. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Please resolve disputes appropriately. Thank you. — Scm83x talk 12:46, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]


If I wanted to attack "you" I would do it and there would be no doubt that I'd done it. Your idea of attack and mine are two totally different things. --Bookofsecrets 00:22, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]


That is a direct threat and warrants an immediate and indefinite ban. All of my contact information is public. If you wish to threaten people, you can either do it to my face over coffee or via the phone. Nothing about my account is anonymous. --BWD 00:40, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]


I don't know you and I don't trust you. It would be my luck that you'd bring an army of thugs with you. I can handle myself one on one extremely well, but I'm one man and an army of thugs is not my idea of a good time. --Bookofsecrets 00:43, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Seige of Wiki[edit]

It bothers my mind on how you guys misunderstand me. I started out here rough as I have no diplomacy in my blood. I was learning the ropes. Then all the harassment started. Then it went from bad to worse. Then I decided enough was enough. So I started my seige. I was simply forced into the defensive mode. I could have improved and been an asset to the project, but that isn't what any of you wanted. So I turned from Dr. Jekyll to to Mr. Hyde in rapid order. You are the cause of me turning the ugliness on. --Bookofsecrets 00:48, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No More Double Standards[edit]

I am more than willing to stop this seige at any time. All I asked is to be treated fairly and justly with no more double standards. --Bookofsecrets 01:04, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why?[edit]

I see you're still at it. See! You cannot leave me alone. And you wonder why I'm acting terrible? --Bookofsecrets 01:10, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No Deaf Ears[edit]

If I had deaf ears I would not care about anything. But this is not the situation. I'm trying to promote my heritage and share it with others. But this is a crime or so it seems. --Bookofsecrets 01:13, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Silence is Golden[edit]

Ahhhhhhhh. Do I detect silence from the peanut gallery? --Bookofsecrets 01:17, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Racism Alive and Well in USA[edit]

I get racism because of my Native American blood from those who have none. I get racism because of my European blood from those who have none. I am a half breed American Indian. I'm honored to have my heritage. But racism is alive and well in the USA. --Bookofsecrets 01:21, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why was Waya sahoni blocked? --Bookofsecrets 04:21, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Because the site is run by Linux Community Members and they pulled enough strings to get me kicked off. Waya sahoni 04:22, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Its how they operate. They whore people through the site and rip them off, then when they are done with you, they cast you away. What do you expect? Wales is a porn dealer, that's where his money comes from. You really think these people are any different. They don't even follow their own policies. Waya sahoni 04:24, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]


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Some Advice[edit]

If you want me to support you and help you learn, please behave like you are housebroken while on this site. I will not tolerate any more outbursts then I won't engage with you anymore. You are embarassing your people and making us look bad, so cool it, Stop acting like a yo-ne-ga, OK? Waya sahoni 03:35, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]


I saw your comments and came back long enough to say wa-do. --Bookofsecrets 03:00, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Welcome back bumpusmills. You have a lot to learn so lets get started. Would you like the opportunity to attend REAL Ah-ni-yv-wi-ya Ceremonies and really learn our culture? Also, we are not called "Cherokee". This is a European word. If so, post an email address where I can get hold of you and I will put you in touch with the leaders of the Ah-ni-ku-ta-ni and you can attend ceremonies and participate in our culture. Welcome home brother. Waya sahoni 06:44, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Waya sahoni. I am touched and honored that you have welcomed me as your brother. It makes my spirit soar like the eagle. My email address is mythicweb. I was not raised in our traditions and ways. I know only two or three words in our language. This is no fault of my own, but it is something I feel needs attending too. --Bookofsecrets 07:11, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You will learn a lot more words. The email link you posted is busted, BTW. send an email to tjarcher. I will get it this way. Waya sahoni 08:20, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Joe Byrd Article[edit]

Bumpus, I need some help with grammar and cleanup on the Chief Joe Byrd article. How about showing me how you practice Gadugi and helping me out (without fighting). I have a lot of stuff on this dirtbag to post yet, but you can cleanup the language, if you want to. Joe Byrd is a disgrace and is deserving of being immortalized on Wikipedia. I also suspect after he learns of this article he will be here all the time vandalizing it. Add it to your watch list and assist me in keeping it reverted. Interested? This is one character we want to recognize for his contributions to our people. Waya sahoni 06:52, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]


I know nothing of this Chief Joe Byrd. Until this I've never heard of him, ever. I'd like to assist if I can. I just don't know how since I have no idea who this man is and all. Oh, and I have no more plans for fighting. I'm sorry that I'm such a brawler. If you'd please assist me in keeping negative people from harassing me, and some of it I literally had coming, but some I found very unnecessary. Wa-do brother. --Bookofsecrets 07:16, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bumpus Named[edit]

Bumpus, I dub thee "Yo-na gi-ga-ge", the Red Bear. (because you charge like a bear and see red when you do). You can be the White Bear also if you like (Yo-na u-ne-ga). I sense powerful bear spirits around you. Waya sahoni 08:18, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Waya sahoni here is a list of the spirit animals I've known about who work with me. Bear, Buffalo, Elk, Snake, Wolf, Dog, Eagle, and Hawk. They have been teachers and protectors. --Bookofsecrets 14:17, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
The Bear is a Grizzly, the Eagle is a Bald Eagle, and the Hawk a Red-tailed Hawk. --Bookofsecrets 14:18, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cherokee language tags[edit]

I'm not sure what you were doing at Template:User chr and Template:User chr-1 when you removed the following text:

[[Category:User chr|{{PAGENAME}}]][[Category:User chr-1|{{PAGENAME}}]]

Admittedly, it looks a little dense and much like nonsense to many new editors. However, it exists to automatically add users to a category for Cherokee speakers. For example, when you place {{User chr}} or {{User chr-1}} on your user page, that that extra code will automatically add you to the corresponding category or categories. You'll subsequently see, at the bottom of your user page, something that looks like "User chr-1" or "User chr;" you'll now be listed in that category. The alternative would be having to manually add the category, which is both a pain and is unstandardized with other language userboxes as well. For future reference, it's best not to erase Wiki tags just because they don't do anything to alter something's immediate physical appearance. Let me know if you need any further help or explanation by leaving me a message on my talk page; remember — we're just here to help you. — Rebelguys2 talk 19:42, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cherokee Tags[edit]

They had ʈʈʈ instead of chr or chr-1. I was merely trying to get them right without the ʈʈʈ on there. --Bookofsecrets 20:06, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rebelguys2. I believe I have things straightened out. Wa-do for telling me about it. --Bookofsecrets 20:55, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ethnic Background Categories[edit]

You're also having some issues implementing your ethnic background categories. Categories in Wikipedia are automatic; that is, if you insert "[[Category:Celtic Wikipedians]]" into your user page, you will automatically be placed onto that page. There's no need to manually place your name there. The category list will not be editable, because there's no need. When you hit the edit box at the top of the Category pages, anything you enter should just be a small header or introduction. If you'd like User:Waya sahoni to be in the category, ask him to place the necessary tag onto his user page. This automation is what makes categories easy and, therefore, is why it's so useful! I've gone ahead and blanked those pages, as it's already, automatically, there.

In addition, remember that categories are hierarchical. As a result, the other reason to edit category pages is to place them under another, more general category. I've gone ahead and placed Category:Celtic Wikipedians and Category:American Indian Wikipedians under Category:Wikipedians by ethnicity.

The ethnicity categories don't seem very clean and clear-cut to me, but that's because it doesn't really matter. We're here to write an encyclopedia, after all; not our own biographies.

One last note; I saw that you updated the code for your userboxes. However, it's much easier to just place the template onto your page automatically. Say you wanted the template at Template:User chr-1 (Cherokee level 1) on your page. Just place {{User chr-1}} on your page to have it automatically appear, with the category and everything. This syntax works for any template. That way, if the template is updated, your page will automatically update as well. Either way, it's must cleaner looking when you're editing your page. Take a look at the bottom of my user page for an example. — Rebelguys2 talk 22:48, 7 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rebelguys2. Wa-do for your instructions. I've always done things the hard way it seems. lol But I'll catch on in the end. --Bookofsecrets 13:09, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]