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merger proposal of Universiti Putra Malaysia with UPM Medical and Health Sciences

Hi, there is an ongoing discussion about a proposed merger between the two articles. Feel free to chime in on this. Thanks! Chan Yin Keen | ^UserTalk _Contribs 17:42, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Anonymous editor disputing Chinese-ness of southern Chinese

IP edits from the 122.105.x.x range, which I believe originate from the same person, has been disputing how people from Guangdong and Fujian are not ethnic Chinese and have been victims of some genocide by the northern Chinese, and that present-day Vietnamese are the same and northern Chinese are a different race, ignoring how things have assimilated in the past 1500 years and that China was sustained in the south for a few centuries. You can see Talk:Hoa and look up my edit history to see where he's been for the past month or two disputing everything Chinese. HkCaGu (talk) 18:44, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I am open to alternative point of views and don't hold on very tightly to traditional ideas of ethnicity myself. Nonetheless, if its going to be on Wikipedia, it better be verifiable. None of that "very difficult to find and generally not found on the internet reference" routine please. Thanks for the heads up - Bob K 18:52, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Cut & Paste moves

Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you recently copied the contents of a page and pasted it into another with a different name. Specifically, you copied the contents of University of Putra. This is what we call a "cut and paste move", and it is very undesirable because it splits the article's history, which is needed for attribution and is helpful in many other ways. The mechanism we use for renaming an article is to move it to a new name which both preserves the page's history and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. In most cases, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page. If there is an article that you cannot move yourself by this process, follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Requested moves to request the move by another. Also, if there are any other articles that you copied and pasted, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen. Same deal with University of Science I'm afraid. Sorry I'm slapping this template on you, but yeah just letting you know that I've tagged the two for a history merge with their respective articles anyway. Chan Yin Keen | ^UT_C 14:02, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Not a problem. I just realised the problem myself. Funny how I never noticed the Move tab until this morning. - Bob K 14:05, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Christianity WikiProject Newsletter - July 2008

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Najib Tun Razak

Dear Bob K,

You have been quite free to send numerous messages to me regarding wikipedia rules. I would like to remind your, regarding the wiki for Najib Tun Razak, personal blogs CANNOT be used as source. There have been sufficient explanation regarding this on the talk page, please do proceed to the talk page and indulge in a healthy debate with me if you do feel that citing personal blogs is in line with wikipedia's policy on the biography for living people. Thank you.

I have not been involved in editing the article on Najib Tun Razak. Don't see why I should get involved. Moreover, you left this message unsigned. Not sure who you are. Most of the warning messages I've left today were for anonymous users vandalising the article on Anwar Ibrahim (see history). You saying you're the one? - Bob K | Talk 18:18, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Whether it is done in good faith or not, that is another matter altogether. The article on Malaysia's Deputy Prime Minister MUST have credible sources, otherwise you might cause wikipedia trouble. This paragraph should be removed, until those who wish to insert this paragraph have 'high quality sources'. This subject here should only revolve upon its authenticity, not me. Those who wish to protect this article from edits should protect it without that paragraph. Wikipedia might face legal action from the Deputy Prime Minister Office or the Government of Malaysia if that article remain, with its authenticity in doubt.60.51.116.149 (talk) 19:00, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Actually it is part of Wikipedia's policy. See WP:POV. - Bob K | Talk 19:06, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Well, just because you think I am biased, that does not mean that you are allowed to publish facts with unreliable sources. The person who put in that article did it in bad faith, as he is trying to smear Najib's name by citing personal blog's as a source. THAT IS NOT RIGHT. I am biased, fine, ban me. That paragraph does not cite a credible source, remove it.

I am feeling you are biased as well, you, as well, prefer to smear Najib's name by publishing 'facts' from unreliable sources. That is against wikipedia's policy. Either you do nothing, or ban me, and remove that paragraph. You can't have the cake and eat it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.51.116.149 (talk) 19:11, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

There are procedures in Wikipedia regarding disputed facts and the disputed section has been tagged appropriately. IMHO, I found only 1 sentence and 1 paragraph in the section that would be questionable. The rest seemed quite well cited. - - Bob K | Talk 19:14, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

The whole paragraph is rotten. Nothing in that paragraph is well cited, and that paragraph even calls Najib and his followers terrorist. Wikipedia is definitely going to hear soon from the DPM's office. hell, I have said this a million times, personal blogs CANNOT be used as a source, no matter how true or untrue a fact is. What a sad case, the anti-Najib brigade is on wikipedia. 60.51.116.149 (talk) 19:26, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

And the use of Yang Berbontot isn't? Anyway, the section has been re-written to state only the facts with the citations improved upon. Whether or not blogs can be used as a source or otherwise, WP:SPS has some guidelines. I do agree that the tone of the section was overwhelmingly POV, hence the edit. Nonetheless, not everywhere is like Malaysia. Politicians cannot force unflattering opinions of them to be suppressed just because they don't like it. - Bob K | Talk 19:40, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Just in case you do not know, this article fall under here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons

let me quote Self-published books, zines, websites, and blogs should never be used as a source for material about a living person, unless written or published by the subject of the article (see below). "Self-published blogs" in this context refers to personal and group blogs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.51.116.149 (talk) 19:42, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

The point is moot. The section has been amended with citations to reliable sources and POV opinions exorcised. - Bob K | Talk 19:45, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Template:Politics of Malaysia

I've edited the template box according to the structure of the federal and state governments from what I studied in Sixth Form. Is there anything you'd like to comment on the changes I made? - Myinuk (talk) 02:13, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Why don't you put up your proposed structure in the Talk page. We can discuss it there. - Bob K | Talk 02:58, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Newsletter

Would you consider recieving the Malaysian Newsletter? If you do please add your name here. Thanks! ĤéĺĺвοЎ (talk) 13:25, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Watchman Nee discussion

Thank you for welcoming me. About my contribution on the talk page of the article about Nee: I was only reacting to text already put there by others who were discussing the subject matter. Watch-Wiki ^Talk 23:25, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Malaysian ringgit

I have no idea who changed it from Hokkien to Teochew in the first place. Andrew Yong (talk) 14:52, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Limkokwing University Of Creative Technology seal.png)

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Hi!

Thanks for your effort on List of schools in Malaysia. I had just noticed the existence of this page. I think if a group of Wikipedians work together, this can be easily splitted. If you are interested in this, please sign your name at User:Mark Chung/School Project Members. I'll then plan further steps. Thank you.

P/s: For those who understand Malay, please visit http://forum.engkabang.net and get some info from there. Thanks! --Mark Chung (talk) 09:31, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks a lot, Bobk, for listing your name in the list. Wikipedia shall be improved! Again, Thanks! --Mark Chung (talk) 00:05, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Ummmph...

Okay, since you are the only one who responded for A FEW WEEKS, I think my only hope is you. Notify me when you're ready and we'll start editing in no time. Thanks.--Mark Chung (talk) 03:36, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Invitation to Contribute

Hi fellow Malaysians! Please note that I have created a article entitled Kuala Terengganu by-election, 2009 for the coming by-election on 17 January, 2008. I would appreciate if Malaysians Wikipedians out there lend a hand and contribute to the article. Regards. Roman888 (talk) 17:49, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

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Martin Bucer up for Featured Article Review

I just wanted to let you know that you can cast your vote of "support" or "oppose" to the Martin Bucer article as a potential featured article at Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates/Martin_Bucer#Martin_Bucer. Thanks! --Epiphyllumlover--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 21:46, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

PASOK

First, PASOK in English generally refers to the Greek party, so per WP:MOS, the article should reside there, with a redirect to the Malaysian party (which I put at the top). Second, you didn't think of fixing these links that now lead nowhere, did you? - Biruitorul ^Talk 16:06, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

PASOK

Panhellenic Socialist Movement was a ruling party of Greece for thirty years, United Pasok Nunukragang National Organisation is a small political party. More incoming were in the first one (a bot now is changing that). Why have an unnecessary disamb page? -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:43, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Christianity Newsletter - July 2009

The Christianity WikiProject Newsletter

Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Editors The Christianity WikiProject Newsletter Issue X - July 2009 Project news The Christianity project and its related projects currently have 76 FAs, 8 FLs, and 148 GAs. We gained new recognized content in each field, with 4 FAs promoted, 2 FLs, and 3 GAs. Congratulations and a big thank you to all those who worked on these articles! Member news It was a big month for new members, with User:RandomNumberSee, User:Per Ardua, User:Muzhogg, User:Arlen22, User:Scotchorama, and User:Jaybird vt joining, bringing us up to 292 listed members. Thanks to you all, and a special welcome to our new members! Other news I am still working on the categorization matter. With any luck, we should have some results by the end of the month. There are also some discussions regarding project related activities at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/General Forum. One issue in particular that might be addressed is possible elections of new coordinators. Anyone interested in serving in such a capacity is more than welcome to indicate as much. Related projects news The WikiProject Films has recently created a new task force for Christian films. All interested parties are welcome to join and contribute. Member contest of the month The previous contests are still ongoing, because of the extreme amount of time the categorization is taking me. Anyone who can bring any of the few Stub class articles among the project's 1000 most often accessed articles by the end of July will get an award. Please see the details Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Christianity#Project challenge of the month. Christianity related news Pennsylvania Amish farmer jailed for outhouse violations Obama expands Bush's faith-based initiatives Relics of 39 saints found by British Museum From the Members Welcome to the Tenth issue of the WikiProject Christianity newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do. It has been a long time since the last coordinators election. There is a lot for people to do, and I certainly would welcome seeing any individuals with an interest in such a position put themselves forward as candidates. I in particular would very much like to see some degree of "specialization" in the coordinators, so that, for instance, we might have someone knowledgable about some of the specific Christian faith traditions or other main subjects, like Orthodoxy, Lutheranism, Mormonism, the Jehovah's Witnesses, art, theology, and so on. If any parties who have experience with some of our faith- or- subject-based content would be interested in being candidates, I would love to see them do so. Please feel free to take part in the discussion regading what the minimum number of category items is, and how to deal with the non-qualifying categories, on the General Forum page. John Carter (talk) 23:26, 1 July 2009 (UTC) To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please list yourself in the appropriate section here. This newsletter is automatically delivered by ~~~~

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