Here is a barnstar to thank you for taking on board the comments on the Ref Desk talk page. Your contributions to the ref desks recently have been great - thanks! --Tango (talk) 02:11, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I feel you should revert to the way you were. But congrats on the Starbarn. Bus stop (talk) 02:27, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Additional congradulations! Edison (talk) 02:41, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
capital of India
Hi, you wrote: "This kind of gets to be hair-splitting." Does that mean "Delhi is the capital of India" AND "NEW Delhi is the capital of India" are BOTH correct, or what are you suggesting. --85.178.104.139 (talk) 08:18, 3 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Auld Lang Syne
1. Casual jotting of journalists (especially ones who obviously have no idea)are not sources - this is an encyclopedia, not a blog.
2. Syne does not mean "sake". The "sake" probably crept in for people trying to sing the song in "ordinary" English rather than Scots - it does fit the tune a bit better.
3. A translation must convey the meaning of the original, at the very least it must not convey another meaning - there come a point where it is no longer a translation.
4. I have moved your comment to the "discussion" or talk page for the article - this is the place to moot changes, especially when they get made (and reverted) every year, as in this case. This way we get to involve others rather than just getting into a childish IS - IS NOT - IS SO type "discussion".
Toshiro Mifune was really good at slugging sake from a wooden box. The box seems to have been called a masu. He was fine in [2], which played in Berkeley for almost as long as King of Hearts played in Cambridge. If this comes down to a battle, I will be there on the bridge with you and Toshiro and a pole weapon. PhGustaf (talk) 01:35, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking more in terms of a hit man. I need somebody with experience at making hits. I wonder if Joe Mauer would do the job? ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 02:25, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'd be willing to help if there were a way of writing the article without mentioning The Evil Empire. PhGustaf (talk) 21:41, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You know better than to say "Dent" to a Red Sox fan. The best ever World Series possible would be Red Sox vs. Cubs, but you guys haven't been coming close. PhGustaf (talk) 02:10, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that was no accident. Lest you be misled, I should mention that my brother and I had a nickname for Bucky Dent. It was "Bucky Dent", with a middle name the same as a particular F-word that we also used to use as a prefix to "Mets". As regards Cubs-BoSox, well, we've been trying for a rematch ever since 1918, when the Cubs suffered their first round of indignities at the hands of the Bambino, near the start of his career (little did we know what the other bookend of that set of encounters, near the end of his career, would be like). Some claim that the Cubs threw that 1918 Series, but apparently nobody cared, as there was a war on. We thought that rematch was going to occur in 2003, but we had to settle for Josh Beckett doing to the Yankees what he had done to the Cubs. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 02:32, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The four pictures as they're framed now interfere terribly with the appearance of the table on my narrow screen, but they feature three Red Sox victories (out of 7 in 11) and zero for the Bronx Bombers (out of 27 in 40). That's a clear vindication of Wikipedia:Neutral Point of View. ;-) Shout out a hearty ¡hola! to all mis amigos in Communicado. —— Shakescene (talk) 22:00, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep in mind that most of the Red Sox championships occurred before 1923. And ALL of the Yankees championships occurred in 1923 or later. >:( ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 22:16, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And you don't think that Red Sox Nation is quite fully aware of the distinction? (Ever hear of the Curse of the Bambino?) However, also note that the Red Sox (who a Cleveland Indians' fan I know considers to be the big-spending Little Satan compared to the Great Satan of the Bronx) did just as well as the Empire in the decade just past. —— Shakescene (talk) 22:32, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's not about Red Sox Nation, it's about the dividing line between "public domain" and "fair use" photographs. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 01:59, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I live much closer to Cupertino. PhGustaf (talk) 22:15, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yankee Stadium dimensions
Hi, Bugs, you know the finer points; I just format the tables. Could you just check the numbers that User:Locoman412 has been adjusting in the Comparison of Stadium Dimensions at Yankee Stadium, and then see (if correct) whether they're consistent with those in Yankee Stadium (1923)? You, and others you know, are the experts. —— Shakescene (talk) 22:49, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If someone asks you to leave him alone, you should leave him alone - as I myself have been warned from time to time. If you've got a grievance against him, take it to the authorities. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 01:56, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You misunderstand the purpose of user talk pages, as does Badagnani. --Ronz (talk) 03:18, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The admin Gtbacchus warned me some time back that posting on others' talk pages when they don't want to hear from you is an etiquette violation. If you don't agree, take it to him. FYI, I don't disagree that Bagnani is a difficult user. But users can delete most anything except for unblock requests during the time they're blocked. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 03:20, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Geez, I hope Saturn didn't drop dead or anything.
I'll have to take a look in the Orbituaries. HalfShadow 04:06, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Or the automobile graveyard. From your heading, I was reminded of this story: Two Jewish conspirators plot to assassinate Hitler. They know he goes by a particular spot every day at a particular time. They lie in wait. He doesn't show. An hour passes. Still no-show. One turns to the other and says, "I hope nothing happened to him, God forbid!" ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 04:32, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
New DVDs of Looney Tunes
Hi. I own all six volumes of the Looney Tunes Golden Collection, which I assume you are familiar with. This new article says that two new individual DVD releases with 15 cartoons each are being released in April, with no duplication of what was on the Golden Collections. Grundle2600 (talk) 03:41, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Outstanding! You made my day. :) We'll have to wait and see what they've decided to include. Hopefully some more oldies. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 04:00, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm glad you're happy with the news! Grundle2600 (talk) 04:20, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Recently I got the first volume of the Woody Woodpecker series. The early Woody was a lot like the early Daffy Duck, which I'm sure is not a coincidence. He was just one crazy bird. Got a little too cute over time. But the early bird was a maniac. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 04:36, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The very, very early version of Bugs Bunny had the Woody Woodpecker laugh. Grundle2600 (talk) 11:18, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I am sure you recall the Lantz-Disney connection (Oswald the Lucky Rabbit as well? And guess who was Woody's first voice? Mel Blanc. Lots of animation inbreeding going on then. Collect (talk) 11:41, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I was not aware of that. Thanks for telling me. Grundle2600 (talk) 16:59, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And you thought guys on Harleys were tough... Soxwon (talk) 17:32, 6 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I can
and will say "Obsessed". I didn't realize the case was closed or I wouldn't have commented. How can a blocked account make an AN/I case?? Wildhartlivie (talk) 23:55, 7 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Stop Stalking me
User:Baseball Bugs stop following me. This is not the first time you do that to me. "Wikistalking" is a violation of Wikipedia:Harassment. If you continue with this i will have to report you. thx Tacv (talk) 00:59, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Edits
Re: New York Jets page: Would be glad to discuss out debate over valid sources on a talk page. I apologize for any inadvertent Talk Page Guideline violations, as this is my first time using any talk pages ( I subsequently posted on Wknight94's talk page). —— Playsmarts (talk) 05:33, 9 January 2010 (UTC).[reply]
He's right - blogs are not valid sources, except when used as a source for an article about the author of the blog itself. Otherwise, it's just opinions. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 07:28, 9 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SPS#cite_ref-3 --footnote 4): To me, that article states that what you state it the general rule for Wikipedia, that blogs cannot me a main source for information (I think we can all agree on that general premise). However, footnote 4 allow for Newspaper Blogs to be a site if the blog is written by a reporter for the paper and follows the same standards as the paper itself. The Fifth Down Blog is the official New York Times NFL Blog. It is written by fulltime reporters for the paper. As such, it is a part of the paper and should be given the same weight as if that posting appeared in the sports pages. --Playsmarts (talk) 18:53, 9 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(Not trying to escalate by moving to your talk, but it's outside of RD scope now.) Posting (as you say) "veiled criticism" of Christianity in response to a question about Star Wars is absolutely soapboxing. Just like if I replied and said "this is just like when Rush Limbaugh and friends come up with crazy doubletalk to justify the inconsistencies of their fictional right-wing world view". This would be "observable fact" IMHO, but still a SOAP. Staecker (talk) 15:27, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm Christian myself and I know what I'm talking about there. For example, there's the discrepancy in the list of the 12 Disciples. Various theories have been created to try and account for that, rather than admitting that it could be a mistake. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 16:40, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not disputing that. It's a SOAP to bring it up during a discussion about Star Wars. Staecker (talk) 19:39, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Specifically this. May I gently suggest that you avoid such comments. Quite what an entirely serious OP makes of an RD regular coming back and dissing his question - for no good reason that I can see - I don't know. Put yourself in the OPs position - how would you feel to ask a way serious question and get someone coming back with "that's not a serious question" by way of reply. Very bad crack. --Tagishsimon(talk) 16:09, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The tipoff was the wink at the end of his comment. But if you notice, I gave him a serious answer after he claimed to be serious. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 16:38, 12 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Could you please post up a larger photo (i.e. not so severely reduced).
In the picture that's there, it's hard to tell what's going on. [It LOOKS like Wambsganss is the player in the home field uniform in the upper left, and the runner is wearing grey... but the other player's posture is all wrong for a runner at the time of being tagged out] More detail would make this photo better (and the copyright on this photo is expired). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.243.106.37 (talk) 07:03, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'll try to improve the caption. If you can't tell what's going on from this photo, I don't think blowing it up will help. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 07:12, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And the newspaper article at the time, quoted in the wikipedia article on the Series, said Miller was basically stunned. He just stood there and let Wamby tag him. Realistically, he was a gone goose no matter what, as if he had tried to go back to first, Wamby would have tossed the ball to the first baseman who would have tagged the base for the third out. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 07:27, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Baseball, it might be better to leave Hell in a Bucket alone for a while. He clearly feels strongly about the image, but there's no need to add extra comments that might further antagonize him. When he calms down he may either feel differently, or constructively try to change policy in other, more appropriate areas than ANI. - Tbsdy lives (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 07:39, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Jerk as in please don't be one [children might be reading].
Look if your comment about children was meant to be taunting take your ball home. On the other hand if it is really meant in a non-attacking humorous way, hey disagreements are exactly that, disagreemnts. That wasn't a pleasant thread for me as I suspect for you, so please clarify. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 07:42, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
For what it's worth, smiley faces are against my religion. Our motto is, "Fuckem if they don't get the joke." PhGustaf (talk) 07:55, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In the Church of Baseball, the smileys look the same as any others, except for the orthodox: d:) ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 08:08, 13 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Tcha! Smileys? How 1990s. This being the Century of the Fruitbat you should all be using Unicode anyway. ☺. Please accept a nice British cup of tea and a Happy New Year from this side of the Big Pond. TonywaltonTalk 01:27, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Humorous
Pardon me for noticing that other editors have raised concerns at your being too humorous at the refdesks. I don't want to comment on what you should or should not be saying, I just thought I'd point out that another technique that refdeskers use to indicate an answer should not be taken seriously is to smallify the text. It's arguably less subtle than a smiley and it may not work for posts that are heterogeneous in seriousness. But I thought I'd draw your attention to that if you don't already know about it. — Ƶ§œš¹[aɪm ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɛ̃ɾ̃ˡi] 08:30, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I do that sometimes. And since the 31st, I've cut back my natural inclinations to make funny. Kind of a New Year's Revelation. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 12:53, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Awww, and here I was hoping that this topic was going to be about silly things like lolcats and Sharon Osbourne. Soxwon (talk) 16:10, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ulna
To complete the set, and indicate the absolute importance of the issue. Collect (talk) 17:38, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting. He stated what I was thinking, namely that increasingly you see wikipedia at the top of Google searches. The editor of that piece apparently is not nearly as bothered about seeing vandalism as we regulars are. On the other hand, some vandalisms are pretty funny, they're so off-the-wall. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 02:03, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My only vandalism ever on wikipedia was on one of the poker pages which had a definition for "rack", in the poker context. It was just not possible to read the definition without adding "Essential attribute for cocktail waitress". PhGustaf (talk) 04:17, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, nobody's perfect. (As Garry Trudeau once had Donald Trump saying, "Hello, Hooterville!") In addition to my occasional attempts at humor on selected talk pages, for awhile I kept trying to slip something into the Campbell's Field article suggesting that the radio announcers there might call a high fly ball a "can of soup" instead of a "can of corn". Mind you I never claimed they did, I just said they might. Then someone reprimanded me for it on the grounds that someone might take it seriously. Forsooth! P.S. I like their Cream of Mushroom best. :b ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 04:28, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
DeKoning
I'm getting ready to take a nap, but what IP was editing along the same lines as DeKoning? Was wondering because if it's possible to run a checkuser and it can be proven it's him, it's gonna be indef--and possibly community ban time as well. Blueboy96 20:52, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know. The OP made that comment, I think. But I'll keep an eye on it. My revert button works. :) ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 21:02, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
...'People who aren't as smart as HalfShadow', but I don't want to seem like I'm tooting my own horn or anything. HalfShadow 01:31, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Obviously, you'd have your work cut out for you, so "People who are as smart" would be much easier, being a much, much smaller category, right? :) ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 01:54, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, well, I'm you as well.
So yoiu just watch yourself. Or me. Us. Goddammit, now we have a headache. I mean I. Or you. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 04:30, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We are all as one, and one as all. Like the Borg. Or Three Musketeers. Or maybe Snickers. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 04:33, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As a user not previously involved in the current content dispute at Talk:Elvis Presley, may I ask you to have a look at the second part of this discussion. I do not understand why a well-sourced quotation including information that Elvis "remained fundamentally disreputable in the minds of many Americans" should not be added to the Legacy section of the Elvis article. For the entire Legacy section, see [4]. Onefortyone (talk) 14:46, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The problem I typically have with such quotations is that they are simply one guy's opinion. Look how many fans pilgrimage to Graceland. I doubt that author is going to have anyone pilgrimaging to his house. Basically, those who liked Elvis continued to like him, and those who didn't, didn't. A lot of people thought Sinatra was a sleaze too. But the King and the Chairman still sell records. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 15:04, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There are three different experts citing the same opinion. If you look at the Legacy section of the Elvis article, it primarily stresses the superlatives concerning the mega-star. To my mind, just one or two more critical voices should be added for reasons of balance. Onefortyone (talk) 15:20, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you haven't seen it, I would ask you to bear in mind this [5] with regard to user Onefortyone. If you feel so inclined, there's a long, sorry history to be dug into regarding this user. His persistent and unfounded claims of bias and whitewashing, coupled with his earnest appeals to editors unfamiliar with his past history spell 'troll' in my book, in big neon letters. Rikstar409 15:29, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We know, Rikstar, that you were part of former content disputes and that you have removed several of my more critical contributions. Onefortyone (talk) 16:16, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Running amok are we?
See WP:AN#Custom signature violates guidelines... must be another slow day/night again, all drop on me like flies to honey and couldn't wait for me to change my sig... Jeez! --Dave1185 16:34, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I see it's no longer flagged to blink. It never did blink for me. I'm disappointed. :( Would it have worked in IE 8? ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 17:45, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's strange that the blink didn't work on IE7 but on IE8 instead, I can confirm it because I was using IE8 to view it earlier in the day. Tell me, why are there so much over-zealous Wikipedians who can't wait to jump on another? The term — WP:AGF, never seem to cross their mind, eh? And the hypocrisy of some of those who criticize others but yet kept peacocking (is that the right word?) their own sigs for the whole world to see, damn dastardly if you think hard about it. --Dave♪♫1185♪♫ 17:59, 17 January 2010 (UTC) (PS: How's my sig look to you now?)[reply]
There are many things I could call it, the most polite of which is "messed up sense of priorities". ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 19:28, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Fuck that (figuratively speaking, of course)~! You may dispense with the formality and give me something more explicit to describe it instead. O(∩_∩)O --Dave♪♫1185♪♫ 19:41, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A longer way to put it, which I can never seem to get through certain thick heads when these kinds of topics come up, is that this is an inwardly-focused debate, and has nothing whatsoever to do with the quality of wikipedia, nor does the average wikipedia reader either know or care about it. They care about content. That's where the primary focus should always be. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 19:50, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Trying to get it all into their thick skull? Not unless we are allowed to drill a hole to get through, we won't be thinking of getting the point across. Anyhow, more blinking to tickle you... that is, when your IE is up to speed. Enjoy... \(^_^)/ --Dave♪♫1185♪♫ 19:58, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In some cases it might take a diamond-tipped drill. Regarding the AGF thing, I don't understand why regulars get hassled so much and drive-bys are cut so much slack. But that's how it seems to be. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 20:16, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ref desk
No, I would just let it stand the way it is. I find it confusing and unfocussed. But I would be hesitant to do anything other than try to come up with some brilliant repartee. I tried that, and then reverted myself, feeling it was not so "brilliant." I'll keep on thinking about it. Bus stop (talk) 23:20, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't consider it a straightforward question. I consider it problematic. But one virtue to it is that the person is willing to stay around, and stay involved. Bus stop (talk) 23:50, 17 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wow. Pretty awesome. I see this as the pilot of a new series, called A Right-Brain Is a Terrible Thing to Waste. :) ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 01:45, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In the words of an American Army officer's one worded reply to the German's demand to surrender during the battle of the bulge: "NUTS~!" >:) --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 06:53, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I just read over a previous conversation with you, and I have to say that I'm sorry about my aggressive tone and manner towards you. I do hope you will forgive me for this... - Tbsdy (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 14:46, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Apology accepted and not needed. :) I had forgotten about it. I don't remember disputes in general, unless they have to do with article content. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 16:54, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A perfectly appropriate response, at that! —DoRD (talk) 17:11, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Re: your AN/I on La Brea
I noticed someone named User:Weakopedia commenting brusquely on your report. Friend of yours? From his userpage, it looks like he may have edited here formerly as a POV pusher. I wonder what happened to that account. His first edit outside of his talk page was to an editor review two days after he joined. Not exactly newbie behavior. What do you think? Auntie E. (talk) 17:59, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That he's not a newbie, and that there's a reasonable chance he's cross swords with me under a different guise. Beyond that, I'll just keep it in the back of my electronic brain for possible future reference. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 18:10, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm being fair about it.
As long as he's making a legit edit to his page or not deleting the ip info, I'm leaving the page alone. HalfShadow 01:09, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Strange love?
Could you please go over to this link and tell me what's your thought on this? I've got a hunch it's a persistent disruptive editing IP at work. --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 03:46, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
hey. another user notified me that i was being accused of being a sockpuppet. i saw that you were in on the discussion here, and i was just wondering what's come of the discussion. just for the record, i'm honestly not a sock puppet, so whatever needs to be done to "clear my name" can be. thanks. EATC (talk) 16:36, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think the link was referenced in the WP:ANI discussion. If not directly, then follow the contribs of that one alphabet-soup user ID, and you'll find it.X4n6 (talk·contribs) I'm never totally sure about these things, but you are in PA and near as I can tell Saturn is in Texas. The subject overlap comes in a common interest in some politicians. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 17:59, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yah the subject overlap is a mere coincidence. As far as I can tell, William Saturn has no interest in PA politics (where most of my editing takes place). Frankly, I was just reading the Scott Brown page to learn about the guy and add relevant succession boxes (which I saw were either misplaced or missing). I saw that folks kept removing Paul Kirk's name and inserting Kennedy's, and decided to fix the issue. I guess my actions came (inadvertantly) in the middle of an edit war between Saturn and that other character. Anyway, thanks for providing the links above; I gather from the report on Saturn's sockpuppet investigation I've been "cleared". Thanks again. EATC (talk) 20:05, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Saturn over-reacted to X4n6's behavior, and vice versa, until someone put a stop to it, on ANI at least. I say X4n6 is factually wrong and Saturn is right about the Kirk thing. He was legally chosen for the job. Being elected or not has nothing to do with it. Gerry Ford wasn't elected either, but he wasn't "acting President", he was President. But both editors could stand to go work on something else for awhile. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 20:15, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Agree on all accounts. Thanks for your cool-headed approach to the situation. EATC (talk) 20:51, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
May I quote you on that? :) One key question: What does EATC stand for? Or is that privileged information? (I don't even want to know what X4n6 stands for, unless he volunteers it.) ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 21:08, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Haha quote away. EATC comes from a username I had used on another site, and decided to carry over here...EaglesAreTheChamps. Obviously, this pre-dates to when the Eagles won the NFC championship in 2004. The acronym just kindof stuck, so clearly, no exciting backstory as to the origin of a seemingly random set of letters. As to what X4n6 stands for, I don't think I could even hazard a guess. EATC (talk) 21:18, 22 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your inordinate contribution to answering my query; it was quite helpful and intellectually stimulating. DRosenbach(Talk | Contribs) 13:05, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Seriously... I don't get it.
The headline says it all. What has Wknight94 got to do with the Mets?--Johnny Spasm (talk) 23:55, 25 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Florida Gators too. I didn't realize he was talking about the colors; I was trying to figure out what the hell "Wknight94" had to do with the Mets.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 00:24, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'll admit he was a little vague about that. But now that you know, you could change your drab, boring signature likewise, if you were so inclined. :) ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 00:30, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In self-defense, I did say "signature", not "username". Wknight94talk 01:42, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Greetings ... I was looking through the list of potential adoptees when I encountered this user's entry. I read through the talk page and the number of blocks, but all that said I concur that the user could use some supervision at least for a while. I'd be willing to offer my services and adopt the user, but I wanted to get your opinion first before I left the offer on the talk page. Thanks. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 19:14, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
For a hot second I thought you were going to ask me to adopt. I wouldn't be much of a mentor. My concern in his case is his "I'll think about it" response to my comment that he needs to provide sources, which suggests he doesn't grasp the issue. So he's going to be a challenge. I also don't know anything about your own history here. But if you're level-headed and willing to help, I don't see why not. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 19:40, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Brief synopsis ... over 3 years editing. Started out with similar edits (fanboy-like, no citations). Have gotten into a few edit wars over the years. Never been blocked. Developed into someone who prefers to find viable sources for the material, but also takes a no-nonsense approach to vandalism and broken promises. Do consider myself "level-headed" and up for a challenge, if someone is truly willing to learn and improve. --McDoobAU93 (talk) 19:56, 26 January 2010 (UTC) (PS Yes, on second read-through, I can see how you read it that way.)[reply]
Gopher it. What could it hurt? The worst he can do is either (1) say no; or (2) not pay attention to you. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 06:23, 27 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
League Park
Your mention of League Park pointed me to House of David. I'm not sure which is funnier — Satchel Paige in a fake beard or the founder being celibate, except for those thirteen girls. PhGustaf (talk) 19:55, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's safe to say Ol' Satch was not celibate. As for the group's founder... well, King David had many wives too, right? So its founder was just doing his religious duty. Until they caught him at it. Here's a metaphorically related clip on the latter subject, starting at about the 3:30 mark:[7] ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 20:03, 26 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That article and the one about Greenlee himself tell me at least 2 things: (1) It's likely a reasonable picture of the kind of organization the Negro Leagues were, and why it's hard to take the leagues (though not the good players) very seriously; and (2) If a white equivalent to Greenlee, perhaps Bugsy Moran or Al Capone, had bought the Cubs instead of William Wrigley, history might have turned out differently. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 06:34, 27 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
They might have won a World Series or two. PhGustaf (talk) 07:29, 27 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Even just one would have been good. Can't get too greedy. I'm suddenly reminded of a National Lampoon (I wonder what I ever did with them) in which they speculated in a satirical way, what might have happened had JFK not been killed and instead served out his term and then stuck around D.C. The one thing I remember is that with all the Kennedy money available, JFK invested in the Washington Senators, acquiring all the top players of that era and turning the Senators into a perpetual champion, supplanting the Yankees. Money doesn't guarantee success, but it improves the odds. Although the Cubs' World Series losing ways defied all attempts at investments since 1908, and since 1945 they can't even buy a pennant. We'll see how this new owner goes about doing things. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 08:02, 27 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Somewhere around here I have the National Lampoon Sunday newspaper parody. It's a stew of cross-references to their earlier yearbook parody, and doesn't fail to discuss Faun Laurel Rosenberg's several husbands. Too bad they stopped being funny. PhGustaf (talk) 01:00, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yeh, I have both the newspaper parody and the yearbook parody somewhere. Classic. There's a joke in the yearbook parody that I still like to quote, from their parody-within-a-parody excerpt from an ersatz U.S. History book. Something about how George Washington wore wooden false teeth (true) which "he had whittled from cherrywood after his father punched his teeth out", which probably has the same truth value as the "real" story. NatLamp once ran a Mad parody with Alfred saying, "What? Me funny?" But guess which publication is still in business. Mad may be as subtle and refined as the Three Stooges, but it's been a model of consistency over the decades. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 01:17, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The newspaper parody was frighteningly close to the truth for the paper from the city I lived in at the time. One thing I recall is a report that some guy's house, listing the street address of course, had been burglarized twice but that they had missed some valuables, and of course reported exactly what and where those valuables were in the house. Then there were the filler blurbs on a couple of separate pages, one saying the earth is warming up, the other that it's cooling down. Now I'm going to have to go looking for those issues. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 01:22, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think there were a couple or three characters from the yearbook that found their way into Animal House. Like Amanda "Fridge"-something. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 01:24, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Amanda "Fridge" Pepperidge. And the parody yearbook was the property of Larry Kroeger, who was an innocent bystander in the movie. PhGustaf (talk) 01:37, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, Larry, who is apparently the alter ego of Doug Kenney or one of the other writers. I think there was also an Emily May "Preggers" Praeger, whose name (without the "Preggers") appears somewhere in the film credits also. Either she was fictitious, or was a real member of the staff whose name they used in the yearbook and the film. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 01:57, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Emily Prager has her own wikipedia page. She's written for SNL and has novels to her credit. Quite a few NatLamp staff appeared in the Yearbook, in drag sometimes. Laura Singer was majorly hot back then; no idea what happened to her. PhGustaf (talk) 08:59, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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I have just discovered that you have accused me of sock puppetry during my block (well, during what I thought was my block period, actually it was much shorter). Retract your unfounded accusations of sock puppetry. --Belchman (talk) 04:01, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In the question that I posted that started all this mess (in the Humanities desk). --Belchman (talk) 16:42, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, you need to provide a specific diff to my specific comment, since I don't recall accusing YOU of sockpuppetry, just "suggesting" same about that drive-by IP address. Also, you need to draw a line through the remarks to Bus Stop and me that got you blocked, and you need to answer the question I posed about that one website, which you ridiculed on the grounds I'm not sufficiently internet-savvy, which I will readily admit, which is why I asked the question. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 17:45, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Your Spanish-speaking doppelganger
I blocked De insectos de béisbol (talk·contribs) (even though the report wasn't at UAA) for a username vio. From the edits, this is clearly someone else. Any ideas we can take to SPI? —DoRD (?) (talk) 23:58, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Regarding these characters, go to about the 5:30 mark of this item:[8] Whodunit? Well, I can think of a couple or three, but I would just as soon apply WP:DENY for the time being. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 00:16, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Real World colors
I wish there was a method to the color coding used. Maybe a heat map that defined their prospects for success in the real world. ;) Ok, so it wasn't that informed. More of an aesthetic usage of color in a table to separate, clearly, the names. These type of schemes where used in the past with this show in sister Wikipedia articles and I was just continuing the trend - although I choose a slightly different variation. Neutralis (talk) 01:05, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Correct. It was purely aesthetic and not based upon a standard or a tie in to the show which the article defines. Neutralis (talk) 01:19, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Since you brought it up, maybe colors should not be used? Is there a standard to which these type of tables should be formed? I'll admit it does look a bit gaudy and I was only following the trend set forth by previous articles. Personally when I work in Excel, I like alternating light grey/white. This is more of a random aside than anything, but I figure I'll probably be creating another table or two down the road and being that this is the topic du jour, I should know best practices. If of course, there are rules in place. Neutralis (talk) 01:44, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
where are the haters?
Hey Bugs- where did your "this user has enough detractors" statement go? I looked like a drunk idiot explaining it to Mrs. Tedder and then going to your page. tedder (talk) 02:14, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, sorry, I moved it to the user page, along with the other stuff. The talk page was getting too cluttered. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 02:19, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think the item you're looking for is in a new section called "Complaints Dept." But don't hesitate to look at the other folded sections, as I move some things from here into 2 or 3 of them, and I also added a thing or two. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 02:23, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Done Showed to Mrs. Tedder and the household we are visiting. Off to dinner. tedder (talk) 02:33, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Merge
Sure I would do it, but I just don't care, honestly. I might if I get bored, but I already have things to keep me busy that are unimportant, menial tasks. (And in case any of that sounds rude or sarcastic to you, please don't think it is intended as such.) If you want to respond, please do so on my talk. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:02, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Exactly Please merge it yourself; you are entirely correct. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:13, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I want to respond that if they want an perfect answer, first, they must ask an perfect question. --Neptunerover (talk) 00:29, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I noticed that just after I wrote this section in. Seriously funny stuff. I'm sure dude had no idea, I mean it's not like you can hear people laughing on here. There are some funny questions. --Neptunerover (talk) 01:16, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. the editnotice is at the top of the page when editing your user talk. I guess it's for notifying potential editors of the page of any notices you may wish to provide them. Interesting. --Neptunerover (talk) 01:20, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oh,no; there's a new one now: 'How do you call a snake in Bogor?' Two in a row now, this has got to be on purpose. --Neptunerover (talk) 09:40, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Now I want to ask him if the snake was tasty, but I don't think the question would go over to well with the staff, no matter how valid of a question I think it may be. --Neptunerover (talk) 01:45, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You betcha! And in the South, it's served with the head still on it! The guy is describing a dead snake! talking about it's belly color and inside of its mouth. He just failed to mention that in his question. Unless he made friends with the snake and plays with it... --Neptunerover (talk) 02:15, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Great! I'll take a rattler stuffed with lutefisk! Now, the thing is, ya understand, them snakes got a lotta ribs - but no drumsticks. :( ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 02:51, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
They are indeed recognized as major leagues. The question is the difference between being recognized as a major league and being a member of Major League Baseball, an organization only in existence since 1901. Most of these leagues were no longer even in existence at that point, and the Federal League was very much not a part of MLB (they sued the AL and NL over this fact). I have no issue with their inclusion, bring it to WP:MLB if you like. Staxringoldtalkcontribs 22:16, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Bugs..kinda need to talk to you? Hit up my usertalk page? Silvershrek (talk) 07:32, 1 February 2010 (UTC)silvershrek[reply]
What talk page discussion?
You tagged an IP question as an SPA here: [9] and cited "as per talk page". Why? --Jayron32 04:54, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It would be better to do nothing at all. The tagging of a comment implies some opinion as to the validity of the commentor. In some cases, where someone is commenting a lot about just one topic, tagging them as a "single purpose account" is appropriate. When someone has an honest question and posts such to the help desk, even if it is their only edit, it would be best to just leave it be. Tagging an editor as an SPA based on what appears to be an honest question at the Help Desk is quite WP:BITE-y, and it would be best to just let his question be answered. Even if the questioner has never edited before, they may be a frequent Wikipedia reader, and may have had a genuine question about Wikipedia. --Jayron32 05:06, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The difference is getting frustrated with ONE PERSON who asks the same exact question every day for months and months, and getting frustrated with new users, each of whom has no reason to be knowledgable about Wikipedia. I try not to be frustrated with actual newbs, who have no exposure to Wikipedia and its policies and practices. The "how many Singaporeans are married to Basques? Cuz I've only ever seen it where the Basque male married the Singaporean female, and I want to know how many Singaporean males are married to Basque females..." guy has been told how to find his info. The new user with a question about nudity at Wikipedia has not. Apples and oranges my friend. Apples and oranges. --Jayron32 05:28, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it's entirely possible to stop this stuff. There's a discussion at WP:ANI on the behavior of Neptunerover, and it seems likely he'll be banned from the refdesks for his silliness, so it is not IMPOSSIBLE to stop someone... --Jayron32 05:39, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Trudat. --Jayron32 05:51, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
ANI
What's ANI? And why do you think I'm evading a block? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Srwm4 (talk • contribs) 07:18, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I will be sure to add the user that was hassling the IP user to the page. Srwm4 (talk) 07:23, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Seriously, what's your problem? Why is it that when someone tries to defend another user who has been the victim of mean-spirited and (IMO) hurtful attacks, that people like you show up out of the wood work to throw me under the bus with the other user? Don't you have better things to do with your life than defend people who call others names when they're obviously only trying to help YOUR community? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Srwm4 (talk • contribs) 07:54, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Why is it that you feel such a great compulsion to attack me with absolutely zero evidence, and ignore teh offenses of a user who has violated the abuse policy at least 3 (DOCUMENTED) times by attacking the IP user in the first place? What say you to him?
Or are you implying that there is nothing wrong with calling another member "Fuckchop"?
Srwm4 (talk) 08:04, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'VE HAD ENOUGH! IF YOU COULD LEAVE SOME INFO ON THE RIGHT TO VANISH ON MY TALK PAGE, I'D APPRECIATE IT. I HONESTLY CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT A FUCKCHOP YOU'VE BEEN TONIGHT, THOUGH.
If this is the kind of treatment I can expect from this community for simply defending someone who made a useful contribution and was being bullied for it, then I do not want to be a part of this community. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Srwm4 (talk • contribs) 08:21, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
De nada! I was a bit out of line with the anon and admit it...like I said, he caught me at a bad time and I sort of snapped a bit. You did what was right. So now I have to hear about it from every busybody and buttinski that visits that page for the next few weeks. Guess that's my Penance.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 15:32, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's simply amazing how he gets an apology, but ME, and innocent bystander just sticking up for another user, I get nothing! What is wrong with you? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Srwm4 (talk • contribs) 16:05, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This discussion seems less than constructive. Do note that it's only ones and zeros. Sticks and stones, etc. PhGustaf (talk) 17:51, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
All I'm saying is that I deserve an apology, as does the IP user who had the bad fortune of dealing with this guy in the first place. I have no intention of being the bigger man and walking away.Srwm4 (talk) 20:15, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Is there any body that makes decisions regarding Wikiprojects and classifications? This doesn't seem right: [11], [12], [13]. Soxwon (talk) 18:02, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I never thought of Reagan as a liberal, but you never know what they've got in mind. I would go to the project page and (1) see who started the project; and (2) raise the question there if it hasn't already come up. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 19:24, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks :-) I bought Microsoft Baseball 2001 or Microsoft Baseball 2000 when it was new, after downloading a free demo; if I remember rightly, the narrator said during the demo about there being a big rivalry between the teams, even though they didn't play for decades. Nyttend (talk) 04:57, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Obviously a rivalry is a little more meaningful if they play either other frequently. But a rivalry can be more than just about sports. The sports teams may be merely the symbol of a larger situation. Brooklyn vs. Manhattan and the Bronx, for example. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 05:01, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I would have said, "Thank you for your interest. Leave your name and number with the receptionist, and if anything turns up, we'll get in touch with you." ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 15:04, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't realize that guy was still editing. Of course, once he ordered me to stop watching his talk page, I snapped into action. He had me shaking in my top-of-the-line Payless shoes. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 08:35, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It says on his user page, "I believe in the Freedom of thoughts, the Freedom of expression, the Freedom of speech and tolerance for all. I also believe there is no acceptable form of censorship in a truly free society, only open debate and discussion. THAT is true "tolerance", the tolerance of ideas"... but look at his unwarranted comments! Don't you hate big mouths who cannot cash the big check they wrote? --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 09:11, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yeh, I'm always impressed by those who hold others to a higher standard than they hold for themselves. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 13:48, 4 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Bugsy... guess what? That someone (*ahem* above... *ahem*) was BLOCKED again... for edit warring, do we detect a pattern now? I wonder... could it be that we really have "powderful admin friends" doing our bidding and BLOCKING him for our sake instead of his own misdeed? Wandering off to sleep now, have a great weekend~! --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 17:37, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Blocked again? Shazam! Thanks for letting me know. As I told him yesterday, I don't watch his page anymore; so I can't keep up with his activities. Whoever blocked, I assure you it had nothing to do with any on-wiki communication between me and any admin. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 17:46, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I guess its not wrong for anyone to say that he's been CANNED for being naughty, again... would you like to have some SPAM? 0:) --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 18:08, 6 February 2010 (UTC) (PS: I sense another block for him at the end of the current block, if my guesstimation is correct...)[reply]
I'll never understand comedy.
Set a man on fire and everyone laughs; light a baby on fire and you get death threats. Geez... HalfShadow 03:57, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Haven't seen the specific thing you're referring to. But you know some folks are just nitpicky. In contrast, I recall some cartoon panel I saw, many years ago, in which this assembly line was producing bottles of "baby oil". A ways up the assembly line were babies rolling into what was presumably something like an olive oil press. I'll leave the rest to your imagination. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 04:04, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well obviously that's where baby oil comes from. I myself have always believed this. What I'm unclear of is whether this is a renewable resource and they just drain the baby oil from the baby, leaving it otherwise unharmed or they get it by mashing up the ugly babies. HalfShadow 04:09, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, yes... Irish meat and Irish potatoes together in an English dinner. Ironically, Swift would eventually become one of the major meat producers in America. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 06:24, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think you meant to say Tommy Aaron. On a separate note, I find you amusing.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 10:10, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the compliment on my wit (or half-wit). Unfortunately, I'm not sure what you're referring to, as I have a good memory, but it's short. :( ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 17:43, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, well.
Captain Candy pants couldn't find his ass with both hands and help from a parent, so... HalfShadow 20:16, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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This user page (and user talk) redirects to yours, but you don't appear to have verified it; is it an alternative account or impersonation? snigbrook (talk) 22:34, 7 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding your entry on AIV I'm unable to comment on anything to do with sockpuppetry porque all the relevant-looking edit comments appear to be in Spanish y no puedo hablar más que un poquito de español. I would however comment that it's odd that an apparent Spanish-speaker has called themselves Senor, as opposed to Señor. TonywaltonTalk 01:02, 9 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Si. Es un puzzlemiento. (That might not be a real word.) Unless tildes aren't allowed in name creation, but I doubt that. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 02:01, 9 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I wonder...
If this might be whom I think this is? Btw, hi. :) --Ebyabe (talk) 01:18, 9 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It would be great if Ted Williams's family got to offer their own commentaries, too. PhGustaf (talk) 08:04, 9 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If he's related to Eddie Cicotte then I'm the Duke of Marlborough. Soxwon (talk) 14:43, 9 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And I'm the Earl of Winston. :) If you mean, is Liebman related to the Cicottes? Not bloody likely. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 15:53, 9 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the laugh
Your rationale here made me laugh. Thank you. :) Rockfang (talk) 06:20, 9 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Red was OK. I thought of him a few years ago when my 1993 SAAB turbo suddenly lost power. A quick inspection showed that a fitting in the intake manifold had been blown out of or sucked into the engine. Oh well. Cobble up a new fitting out of the duct tape in the trunk, drive home, get a proper new part for $3 or so, and Bob's my uncle. 08:17, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
Oh you're just angry because you didn't get a barnstar.
'The old grey hare, he ain't what he used to be, ain't what he used to be, ain't what he used to be...' HalfShadow 16:44, 9 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Scares the piss out of me every time I hear it. Used to use it as part of an answering machine message and physically terrified a couple of people. Never mind the title, it was either this or track down the entire cutscene. HalfShadow 04:52, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
troll booth
Idiot!
Quick! Lock your talk page! It's that "sock puppet" again! All your talk page are belong to us! Go fornicate yourself! 173.134.91.63 (talk) 20:04, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, contradicting Liebman, so unless he's playing games, it must not be Liebman himself. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 20:56, 10 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Talkback
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Ben Tillman
If he's really a POV-pushing disruptive editor, as you say, then file a report. Point out a pattern of long-term abuse. SOMETHING. If none of it will stick, then there's your answer. Because your current tactic of insulting him to anyone who'll listen is quite uncivil. I honestly respect you and your decision-making in other facets of Wikipedia, on a variety of subjects, but this is ridiculous. --King Öomie 14:41, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Underconsidered comment....
...this comment is really out of line. I suggest you reread the discussion and refactor or retract it. 9/11 is a hot button, but there is no evidence that Richardjr sympathizes with the perpetrators. Your comment is a modern form of Godwinization. --Stephan Schulz (talk) 11:09, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
So is GTMO. I get a little tired of hearing the USA painted as the bad guy in this war. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 16:32, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
So what? Does that excuse lashing out at people for the wrong reasons (and that means you in thus case - my opinion about Gitmo would violate WP:FORUM and WP:CIVIL, I fear, and stretch my vocabulary to breaking point). --Stephan Schulz (talk) 18:33, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If anyone has an issue with what I say to them, they are free to come here and ask me about it. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 18:36, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have no issue with what you say, but you are welcome to tell me about it. I'll I ask is that you please be nice when speaking to me. Senor Reparar (talk) 18:46, 13 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Man, even when I beat you to the irrelevant comments, you still get blamed. What makes you so lucky? Adam Bishop (talk) 17:01, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Baseball, I hope you don't mind, but I put back those 2 edits. It tends to refactor the flow of the discussion with them removed. All the best, and hope those rumors of your retirement are unfounded. 173.100.214.133 (talk) 18:02, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
They are there for a reason. Please respect them. NW(Talk) 15:29, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sexual Stereotyping
Hi Bugs: Could you reconsider your recent post on WP:AN/I about John Weir? I can't see that your personal opinion adds anything to the discussion except to perpetuate a stereotype. Thanks Bielle (talk) 04:14, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Unless there is actual evidence of his orientation other than the way he comes across, the gossipy stuff has no place in the article. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 04:17, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
More ANI drama again? Bugs, why does BLP issues at ANI always reek so much of it? IMO, this is just another perfect example of messed-up sense of priorities (covered in WP:OWB). Correct me if I'm wrong. 0:) --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 04:29, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You're right on the money. Too many editors want to pepper celebrity articles with tabloid garbage. We are not the National Inquirer, or at least we're not supposed to be. Weir says his private life is a small part of who he is. He's not literally "out there" like Rudy Galindo, and instead of getting mad at the nosy reporters, he just gives them clever answers. If and when he "comes out", assuming he even is gay (which he might or might not be), that would be a different story. Until then, it doesn't belong. He's a skater. Let him skate. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 04:43, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Bugs responded on my talk page as follows: Boy oh boy, did you miss the point. If Weir was "straight-acting", do you think he would get those nosy questions from the media? Maybe, but not so likely. But unless he either "comes out" or is caught in public, it's gossipy, tabloid junk, and doesn't belong in the article. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 04:53, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It would appear that I need to go back to school to learn how to write what I mean. Bugs, your post was "Weir kind of comes across as one you might consider "likely", but until he himself confirms it, it amounts to mere gossip and doesn't belong in the article." I have no problem with the last five words. In fact I entirely agree with them. The point of my remark, which was so poorly made that everyone who commented on it above missed it, is that the whole introduction to those five words is perpetuating a stereotype. You continued this in your phrase "straight-acting" when you responded on my talk page. If you had not prefaced your "doesn't belong in the article" with the rest, I'd have been cheering on the sidelines. Bielle (talk) 05:19, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It is interesting that Sandy continues to defend an edit as "well-cited" even after I clearly exposed the poor sourcing used to make the broader statement which Sandy insisted on. Quote from ANI: "the second part of the new 25 Jan sentence is "who is described as supporting Chavez's policies". This is now sourced to two footnotes. One is the original NYT source. the other footnote is a composite of a number of sources (SYNTH alert!). Let's look at these sources. T The first is USA Today, claiming (without explanation or detail) that Weisbrot "has supported Chavez's policies." Possibly WP:BLP demands better than a vague passing remark in a short news piece to stamp someone as a supporter of someone the US more or less considers an enemy, but let's leave that to one side. What other source delights await to support the claim? Some statements of Weisbrot's perhaps? A paper or two? No, in fact we have a remark in The NewStandard (a minor now-defunct online news service); a Miami Herald op-ed (I thought op-eds were frowned upon as sources for controversial statements in BLPs... cough), a Washington Post blog entry, and a magazine and website published by the David Horowitz Freedom Center. Fantastic sources for contentious BLP material." Also interesting that Sandy provides a diff claiming that I'm "removing" text when the diff provided [15] shows moving it from undue prominence, removing weak sources, and toning the point down to what is said by the most mainstream sources. Sandy is normally so keen to rely on mainstream sources, yet in this case has been willing to rely primarily on an anarchist website for a key negative point in a BLP (claiming the subject is an "adviser to Chavez" based on this) This alone should tell people who do not know Sandy's dark side that there are shenanigans here. Rd232talk 08:03, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
External links and copyright violations
Hello. I was perusing your User page, and came across the "The Church of Baseball" section. Near the bottom, you have a number of links. I've viewed them, and the majority of them appear to link to copyright violations. WP:ELNEVER appears to mainly apply to articles, but does it apply to all pages on Wikipedia? If this doesn't apply to User pages, or User pages are just given more leeway, please let me know. That way, I won't bother anyone else about this.--Rockfang (talk) 13:26, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ciumtt
Why did you post that on my talk page? I don't edit Wikipedia very much and I haven't logged in in a while. Why did that prompt you to write that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ciumtt (talk • contribs) 01:29, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That was a month ago, and I don't recall the details now. However, if yesterday's IP was you, that would possibly answer the question. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 02:11, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sort of. Problem is, I don't recall the specifics. I can only keep track of so many oddities. :) ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 02:42, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oddities? Tell me about it, my watchlist just went the 1000th mark and I still haven't a clue what I am watching out for. Time for me again to trim it down to something more manageable, I guess. \(-.-)/ --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 03:00, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My watchlist includes a lot of items that I've essentially "bookmarked" because I have trouble recalling their titles. That tends to make the watch list a tad lengthy. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 03:41, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
1,000, Dave? I dream of getting mine down to 1,000. It's currently 7,947. I'm not actively watching a vast number of them, but I'm slave to the rainy day syndrome. God have mercy on me. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 09:22, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That beats me. But it's still only a small fraction of all the articles on wikipedia. I'm thinking that the android called Data might be able to keep all of them on his watch list. For the rest of us it would be kinda tough. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 09:36, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Re: Holy Roamin' Umpire
There was once a Major League umpire known for his rudeness. When he called a player out, he gave a little twist to make it an insult. When he called a strike, he sneered at the batter. When he called a ball, he sneered at the pitcher.
One day, after a particularly nasty game, he came home, sat down, and asked his son to sit on his lap. "No, Dad. You're too mean."
The moral, of course, is that the son never sits on the brutish umpire.
I'll be here all week. PhGustaf (talk) 21:30, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Luckily it was already Friday. The customers who stayed all week ran the risk of a groan pull. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 23:14, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There was an African king, beloved by his people. He lived in a grand two story home in the jungle made from the grass and other vegetation. On the 10th anniversary of his accession, his loyal subjects gave him a splendid new throne. The king, however, being the sentimental sort, couldn't bear to part with the throne he'd sat on for so many years. He had his servants stow it on the second floor. Not long after, as the king was sitting on his new, splendid throne, a violent storm arose, and the old throne came crashing down, killing the king. Thus the saying "THOSE WHO LIVE IN GRASS HOUSES SHOULDN'T STOW THRONES." Soxwon (talk) 22:39, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Revert my talk page again and you will be banned. kthxbai —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.101.143.168 (talk) 08:54, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Take a guess who gets the BAN first? --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 09:58, 20 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Err, is that you messing around with that talk page atm (I guessed so, because you did the last revert)? If so, it isn't helping. Now Francesca's comment shows up as Seth's [16], while one is entirely gone. --Xeeron (talk) 14:56, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Disregard the above, has been fixed by now (and I found out it was not you). --Xeeron (talk) 17:36, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Boy, did I goof. I followed LUUSAP's link to meta, and I didn't read WP:RTV. Not only is RTV typically reserved for editors in good standing, user talk pages aren't supposed to be deleted. — Malik ShabazzTalk/Stalk 02:55, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
82.43.*
Just wondering... what is your opinion about an ANI for the 82.43.* nosign guy? The reason I haven't started an ANI is because everyone (myself included) initially sees this as a few guys picking on a new guy for forgetting to sign a post here and there. I feel it will be like freewayguy or the planet color guy. It will take tons of evidence to the contrary to get people to comprehend that this isn't just someone making honest mistakes. -- kainaw™ 03:42, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oh hell no.
Abuse I can handle; as a vandal-fighter that's a daily occurrence for me, but I'm not jumping through hoops just to please the populace. I've made it clear I have no interest in trying for adminship given the current system and that hasn't changed. HalfShadow 04:42, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Court TV
As I just wrote at the Duke talk page, I found it at the Wayback Machine. — Malik ShabazzTalk/Stalk 04:50, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What do you make of this? And as you know, I love your sharp wit and humour... but what would your reply be like if it was directed at you? *carrots?* --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 21:55, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not Bugs, but my suggestion is to let the matter be and await further comments on the Wikiquette page. I would not have engaged the IP as harshly as you did: It's usually best to just ignore them. But I don't think, considering everything, his complaint is going to get far. Don't respond to future comments from the IP, he's not listening. PhGustaf (talk) 22:06, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You're right and FWIW, I'm going offline now to catch some Zzz... have fun, yeah? --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 22:18, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Guess what? That IP editor was hang out to dry for harassment~! Talk about the irony... Dreamland, here I come~!!! --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 22:35, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
← ← ← This is a principle I always adhere to, except for those times when I don't.
I wouldn't necessarily start with direct name-calling. I'd probably ask some subtle question, like "What ID do you normally edit under?" ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 00:25, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I brought the Jerry Grote debate up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Baseball. I'd like your input on the topoic.--Johnny Spasm (talk) 00:12, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The content (whether to include "chaste" or not) should be debate, but the behavior you're throwing at that IP for what appears to be a completely reasonably editing disagreement is rather over-the-top. Two edits and he's a troll? Now, maybe I'm not aware if this is tied to an anon you've had problems with before, in which case, if there is potential trouble a checkuser makes sense, but this appears to be your "first" interaction with him, which tells me that you have no idea of his motives. Including the "don't feed the trolls" images at this point is way too premature without additional evidence, because that is the furthest stretch I'd consider of the word "troll". --MASEM (t) 06:47, 27 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Obama and Palin
I bet you didn't know they did this[17]! Safe for work; not necessarily safe for the stomach, PhGustaf (talk) 19:09, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I realized that I saw this on a page you already watch about two seconds after I hit "send". I realize a lot of things about two seconds after I hit "send". PhGustaf (talk) 19:20, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Have you ever noticed that people who accuse others of generalizing often do so through generalizations? Soxwon (talk) 16:00, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And yes, I made a generalized statement on purpose :D. Soxwon (talk) 21:18, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Always remember to never say "always" or "never". Then there's the one my dad used to use, "If I've told you once, I've told you a million times - don't exaggerate!" ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 21:30, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Clarify
Even though the user is kind of a.....well, we know what, he actually did a revert, restoring the screen full to Woogie, then reverted it back. It was actually done by another indef'd user first. Niteshift36 (talk) 04:31, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wow~! (I gave a 5* for the clip!) I have a new found respect for the cameraman... I imagine it must be very hard going through and dodging all those contraptions while filming the whole process. --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 07:02, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Cool clip. My problem? It's a crappy band with a history of great stunts. So become a stunt group, not a band. tedder (talk) 07:40, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hence the respect for the cameraman... who had to dodge their crap flying all over the place! :) --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 07:46, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ole and Sven, the old retired Norwegian boys, lived at the Old Retired Norwegian Home.
One afternoon they were sitting on the front porch looking at the sunset and talking about this and that. Lena, who lived there too, was standing around the corner and heard the boys talking. Being a mischievious lady, Lena decided to play a trick on the boys.
Taking off all her clothes, she ran around the corner and raced past Ole and Sven as fast as she could run.
Ole and Sven watch in astonishment as Lena runs past. Finally, Ole asks, "Vasn't dat Lena?"
Sven replies, "Yah, ay - ay tank so..."
Ole says, "But, vat vas she vearing?"
Sven shakes his head and says, "Yah, ay don't know, but vatever it vas, it sure needed ironing!"
I got it here[19], where there are a lot of jokes of highly varying quality. I submitted the one about Sven and Ole and the constipated mule, but they haven't put it up yet. PhGustaf (talk) 19:37, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Q: How come Iowa doesn't have a professional football team?
You betcha! There's a long, drawn-out Sven and Ole story which I'll try to keep short: They die in an ice-fishing accident and go to hell, where they're happy as clams because it's so warm. The devil, frustrated, then causes hell to freeze over, and that makes Sven and Ole even happier, because it means the Vikings must have won the Super Bowl. (I've heard a similar joke about the Cubs, and I wouldn't be surprised if it had been used for other long-suffering teams from time to time.) ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 22:12, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The impostor has struck again
See this guy's edit → User Eddstonham (talk·contribs) ←, I almost send the innocent one to the gallows had I not double checked when he started calling me a fool, that's when I smell a rat. Time to call in the pest control? --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 04:05, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Good grief. I like where he says that some article "never will be deleted", and of course the article is a redlink. Like that moment in Airplane! where the radio DJ says, "station... where disco lives forever!" seconds before getting knocked off the air. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 04:27, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It has to be just an incredible coincidence. No one would deliberately harass users who got them kicked off the site. But we do give them the last word, at least up to the point where they're barred from editing their own talk pages. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 16:11, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Bugs, I don't think it was a coincidence. Going through his editing pattern and judging by his behaviour, I got a hunch that he's stalking both our page for our activities on Wikipedia from time to time. Luckily, my page's semi-PPed to prevent pesky nuisances from passing bad karma to me. (Note to self... must remember the teachings of WP:DGAF and let them have the last word, initially.) --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 16:39, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Kryptonite
Funny you should mention this[20] ... a grammar school teacher actually asked me to explain the difference between red and green kryptonite. Lol. She was skeptical when I said neither existed. Isn't it bizarre how popular culture is taken as authoritative? Piano non troppo (talk) 02:14, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Standards Unless I am missing something, Everybody Works but Father is the correct capitalization per WP:CAPS, WP:MOS-TM, and WP:MUSTARD. The "official" name may well be "Everybody Works But Father", but that is not incumbent upon our style guide. Again, if I'm not understanding something, please let me know. Please respond on my talk if you have more to say on the matter.
Actual titles You wrote that "actual titles" trump style guides, but that is exactly the purpose of a style guide and in particular, this reference from WP:MOS-TM:
"Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules even if the trademark owner considers nonstandard formatting 'official'."
Again, it seems clear to me considering all of these standards that the page is where it should be on Wikipedia. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:03, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Original research? If you think that recapitalizing TIME as Time (magazine), then you will have to take this up at WT:MOS. I should warn you beforehand that I don't see that as a compelling argument. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Right Wikipedia isn't telling anyone how to think with its style guide. That's exactly what a style guide is: arbitrary rules to simplify and streamline content. The New York Times uses "C.I.A." and The Economist uses "CIA"; it's six of one, half-dozen the other. I really don't understand your point. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:19, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Value The value of a style guide is providing readers with an intelligible and consistent reading experience as well as having a singular authorial and editorial voice. Funny though it may look, that is the way it is to be on Wikipedia. I have no idea what the original authors or publishers had in mind, but that's not really relevant to how Wikipedia styles their articles and titles. Again, this is precisely the point of WP:MOS-TM. Anyone else is free to use whatever capitalization scheme they want—including ones that are clearly non-standard English—but that's not what Wikipedia does. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:26, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Reasearch? You think that by having an article with the title "Everybody Works but Father" that constitutes sloppy research? Again, the titling of an article isn't research at all; it's styling. I can't make heads or tails of your argument, but if you have a problem with WP:CAPS or WP:MUSTARD, you should really take it up at those pages, because you and I have equal say in the drafting of those standards. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:31, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
::::::Okay If WP:MOS contradicts itself (I don't know how), that is really appropriate for WT:MOS and I encourage you to point it out there. I'm not sure what you want from me, though. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:34, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Budge? Budge on what? WP:MUSTARD is clear. I will happily revert myself if you can show me that I have misunderstood those guidelines, but if you think it is the guidelines that are in error and I have correctly applied them, you should post to that talk. There's not much for me to do here, really. It's not like this song gets some singular dispensation to have a different style for capitalization than other song titles, so I can't figure out what you want from me. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:37, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Transients welcome
de bait
This digression has been archived. Please do not muddify it.
Despite my request of 12 hours ago, your latest post posing as humour has caused me to raise your behaviour on the Ref Desk talk page. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 23:29, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I read your "joke". That was unbelievably vile and inappropriate. AniMate 00:10, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know what you're talking about, and I'm not watching the ref desk talk page, so feel free to say whatever you want about me there, as I won't see it anyway. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 00:29, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OK, must be the cherry yogurt joke. Well, I'm not the one who pointed out an article which had some ridiculous story about a woman stuffing yogurt inside her. And if you're offended by something as mundane as the biology of menstruation, don't you ever call me prudish again. :) ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 00:40, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There's a term to describe people like you, Jack; it rhymes with 'shiny van hitch'. You should be able to figure it out for yourself. HalfShadow 00:56, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Luckily, I'm a prude, so I don't know what you're trying to say to Jack. And I'll gladly remain ignorant. :) ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 01:02, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Why, I don't know what you're trying to imply, Mr Bunny. HalfShadow 01:04, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's over my head, too, but whatever it's supposed to mean, it seems to be some sort of negative comment about me personally. Veteran editors know not to do that, but to confine their remarks to behaviour, as I have done. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 01:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I checked a rhyming dictionary, and it might be "Heinie bran itch," which might be a side effect of the consumption of excess fiber at breakfast. So try some yogurt instead of all the bran. (Not intended as medical advice.) Edison (talk) 04:30, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Are you recommending a topic bran? tedder (talk) 04:34, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, now you've done it - my mind is now aglow with whirling cereal nodes of thought, careening through a cosmic vapor of punning... Starting with the Kellogg–Brand Pack, a treaty that made the world Safe for corn flakes. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 04:44, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just install a filter between brain and the "Enter" button to avoid being branned from editing.Edison (talk) 04:54, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think you'll have a difficult time getting consensus for branning or banning based on this. It wasn't exactly like yelling "COCK!" in a crowded theater; the question was already past the decency line for most folks who were likely to be offended. tedder (talk) 05:07, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well, if being a 'veteran editor' involves becoming something like you, I think I'd rather drink bleach first... HalfShadow 01:17, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Um... There's really not much to talk about here. Let's wait till tomorrow and see whether we're still mad. PhGustaf (talk) 01:21, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It is disturbing to read the celebration of personal abuse in this thread. Meanwhile tell me, Bug: exactly how is the reputation of the RDs improved by the assurance that wherever possible a schoolboy joke will be inserted. Way to encourage people to ask thing: mock the subject matter of the question. That's cetain to reassure. --Tagishsimon(talk) 01:22, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The article that someone directed the OP to had something about one woman stuffing yogurt into another woman. That you don't find offensive, but a joke about something as harmless as menstrual blood, you do find offensive? Go figure. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 01:26, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If anyone cares, my inspiration for that joke was a drink that was served some years ago at a seafood place, I'm thinking it was Red Lobster, of all things. They had a drink that was basically white, and a little plastic shark hanging on the edge with its mouth open, and when you were ready you would tip the shark and raspberry sauce would spill into the drink. I kid you not. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 01:43, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've seen that drink also in New Orleans. Quite striking. Dayewalker (talk) 05:26, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Or biting. :) Here's one reference,[22] not to RL, but to a drink called the Great White Shark Attack, which sounds similar to what I had, minus the gimmick of pouring raspberry "blood" from a shark's mouth.
I wonder, if I had said "raspberry yogurt" maybe I wouldn't have been yelled at so loudly? ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 05:37, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've had that "shark drink"...IIRC it was their variation of a "Lava Flow"--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 05:49, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I found my little rubberized shark, and on its underside it says "(c)1998 Red Lobster - made in China". Due to the copyright, I suppose I can't take a picture of it and upload it. >:( ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 06:05, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I see sporadic references to it in Google. It appears that the Joe's Crab Shack chain sells it now, complete with toy shark, or at least they did as recently as 2008. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 06:17, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Being watched...
Bugs, to paraphrase what you said the other day: "Emm, I dunno, but did ya evuh have da feelin' ya was bein'... watched?"[23] Hahaha... looks like its true! --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 01:32, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"Gee, it's quiet out there." "Yeah, TOO quiet." (Dialog from Western movie). Edison (talk) 05:00, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There is a discussion that involves you at the ref desk talk page. Senor Reparar (talk) 01:59, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the update. So, is your user ID the Spanish translation of "Pioneer Courthouse"? :) ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 02:03, 13 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
1 month semiprotection now applied. It may need a longer period (I see this nonsense has recurred immediately the previous 1 month semiprot expired). TonywaltonTalk 02:00, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I guess we'll see if it reappears 30 days from now, or if it's too busy with its income taxes to be vandalizing audits (we're assuming it works for a living. AGF.) ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 02:22, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Socks and not socks? Who cares!
You said, on Pwingall's sockpuppet investigation page: Even if he (Fsushilcom) weren't a sock, he's still wrong, as he's trying to restrict the definition to its "traditional" meaning, in defiance of consensus and, more importantly, reliable sources
Indeed, which is why I applied an indef VOA block regardless of sockiness. Cheers, TonywaltonTalk 01:11, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Definitely. Sock-hunting can also be emotionally bleedin' awful (I gave up on WP for a while after the Iamandrewrice storm - I just couldn't face it, and I do wonder if that whole thing did contribute to the death (literally, in real life) of a valued Wikipedian). A lot of the time socks are simply disruptive anyway, so just block the buggers, say I. Look at the energy expended on ILT for another example. At the end of the day someone determined to be a git will be a git. Block their socks as socks and they'll just make some more (while sniggering at how clever they are). Ban them and, well, so what? WP has no power to issue a legally-binding injunction against them, and ISPs couldn't give a dam. So I agree with you - block the primary disruptive behaviour for what it is and have done with it. Cheers, TonywaltonTalk 01:35, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(crossed reply)Sure it was amusing, seeing ILT slowly disappearing up their own butt, and identifying them as an 80-year-old disabled lady Marine, but in the end we could have just blocked the bloody lot of them with no harm to WP! TonywaltonTalk 01:38, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Potentially a suicide, by someone who was already emotionally fragile (having just lost a partner). Yes, if it wasn't that it may have been something else, but I do feel some slimy little sockpuppeteer shouldn't be the one supplying last straws for camels' backs. Pwningall2 has been blocked, BTW. TonywaltonTalk 01:48, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Indentation,
Could you delete a single colon on your last comment to my talk page? It appears as if you're replying to Myth. I would do it myself, but I don't want to change the meaning of your post, or who it was directed at, if I am wrong.— DædαlusContribs 01:27, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You're worried about removing a colon? Hell, I refactored this page and fixed a signature recently. It'd take someone a bit more high-strung than Bugs to find a problem with that. tedder (talk) 01:32, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Who are you calling high-strung??? That's defamation of character. You'll hear from my lawyer: Hon. Charles H. Hungadunga, care of Hungadunga, Hungadunga, Hungadunga and McCormick. Oops, I left out a Hungadunga - the most important one, yet. However, he's not in the office. Ironically, he's having his colon adjusted. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 01:36, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"Hungadunga, Hungadunga, Hungadunga, specializing in nepotism cases" tedder (talk) 01:38, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Tsk. NLT. Consider yourself blocked for 30 seconds. Seriously, it can get icky when people purposely refactor stuff to make it look that an innocuous reply to A was a contentious reply to B, but that sort of stuff is rare, and edit histories are very much your friend if that kind of accusation is made. TonywaltonTalk 01:42, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks for the update. I am a very minor participant in this, so I will try to avoid further comment unless I see a need. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 04:14, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Your advice on how interaction bans might be set up
Hello Baseball Bugs. When I perused WP:RESTRICT, looking for examples of other interaction bans, lo and behold! You and CoM were being told to avoid each other. Sorry to single you out, you were just a handy example, but can you tell me if you think this was a good solution? A case at AN has a new proposal for an interaction ban between two users. If you would let me know your thoughts, it would be helpful. One user has complained that it may prevent them from editing any articles touched by the other. I'm not sure if that's true or not. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 18:28, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Baseball Bugs has confided to me that he is happy avoiding people he would rather not interact with anyway. Bus stop (talk) 18:33, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well-stated, and observably true. :) I can't really give a solid answer on the CoM situation, because by then we were only interacting at ANI, as I had stopped editing the Obama articles, hence we had no significant article crossover. I did raise the question Ed is raising, and I don't think I got a real good answer. I think the deciders would have to figure that out. That is, if the two editors revise each others' edits, does that count as "interaction", or does it depend on whether it's normal editing or edit-warring? Maybe the question needs to be posed at the AN case mentioned above, before it gets too far along. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 18:45, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your reply. I guess I should be looking for interaction bans where both people are still active, and editing some of the same articles, to see what happened. Maybe I should go look at Arbcom cases. What a way to spend an afternoon! EdJohnston (talk) 18:50, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That would be a good idea. I'm not sure where that information (a list of such users) would be. You could do that after the Duke / Ga. Tech game is over. :) ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 18:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, soap operas on TV are dying out, so ArbCom and AN/I are going to get more popular. Anyway, CoM had a couple more interaction bans, I think with some combination of wikidemon, scjessey, and tarc. After their Obama topic restrictions lapsed, they did continue to contribute to the same articles, and when you do that it's hard to know exactly whose material you're altering. My thought is that interaction bans should mostly include personal digs at parties and personal talkpage comments: article-space edits, and talk about them, should be exempt, with the parties aware that incivilities and edit warring are frowned upon even more than usual. Anyway, Bugs doesn't have to worry about his interaction ban for quite a while. PhGustaf (talk) 19:22, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking about asking that it be lifted, although even I couldn't come with a good reason to do so. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 19:25, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I sort of imposed an interaction ban with CoM on myself, though I did revert an Obama edit or two and make small comments on administrative pages. If you look at your talk archives, you'll see that I said something like "determined to crash and burn" concerning him; he didn't need my help. PhGustaf (talk) 19:34, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have some thoughts on this. The reasons for conflicts are many. It's conceivable that an interaction ban could be appropriate if done properly for the right reasons - two well-intentioned, good faith editors who normally behave themselves have the online version of a personality conflict they cannot or will not resolve on their own. However, it is not a very effective or efficient shelter for an innocent editor dealing with harassment from another. In this case it seems to have been a dysfunctional response, a cop-out really, by arbitrators and administrators who were not very familiar with the problem and didn't make the effort to understand it. If you'll look at the history of the COM interaction bans they were not terribly successful. If COM had in fact avoided us it would have been a welcome relief from the repeated abuse despite the taint of being on the receiving end of a sanction for trying to do the right thing by dealing with a problem editor. But as it turned out the other two editors and I were simply at the wrong place at the wrong time, the first victims of COM's abusive tirades that were eventually leveled at dozens of other editors, including numerous administrators and arbitrators. If he had treated an arbitrator to the same vitrol he directed at me someone would probably have dealt with this earlier. He was doing to me all the things that got him banned later, and more - for example, repeatedly edit warring political articles including some on probation to the point where they had to be edit protected. But whenever anyone asked for help dealing with him, or any admin tried to do so, he would accuse them with the now-familiar litany stalking, harassment, trolling, POV-pushing, etc., or just plain insults (disgusting, perverse, vile, etc). Rather than deal with the actual problem some just declared it was two sides fighting and scolded both sides like errant children. That was rather oppressive and prolonged the problem for another year at the cost of countless hours and aggravation for much of the community. If I had to generalize, I would say that if one editor is bent on wikigaming to attack others, an interaction ban only creates more opportunities to do so. Incidentally, I am commenting here because I believe my original position on COM is vindicated at this point, and given COM's 1-year ban there is no chance it will result in an interaction. If and when he comes back, assuming he behaves himself interaction should not be a problem. - Wikidemon (talk) 19:55, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Gustaf said he unofficially imposed an interaction ban on himself, and I would say that's what I did with the Obama articles: I stopped editing them not long after that WND siege the night of March 8/9 last year, just as I had stopped editing the Palin article in the fall of '08. The way to achieve that is to simply take them off the watch list, and then you won't see the changes and will be less tempted to go there. This doesn't fully help with Ed's original question, but it might suggest that interpersonal bans alone may not cover all the bases, and that topic bans/restrictions in articles, or types of articles, are also needed. But the latter can be tougher to police. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 20:40, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well. That was straight and to the point. :) Woogee (talk) 21:42, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
He'll probably be blocked for the User name, anyway. I've reported it at WP:UAA. Woogee (talk) 21:42, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Kudos. I don't use the conventional warning notices, because I know if I were a vandal I wouldn't bother reading them; whereas a bold/capped/terse warning might get my attention. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 21:46, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I use them because if you don't nobody at AIV will do anything. Woogee (talk) 21:50, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmm... That's an interesting point. I wonder where those warning message templates are? ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 21:55, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Consider using the "TWinkle" package, which you can select using the preferences/gadgets sequence above. It automagically undoes the vandal (even if he's made more than one consecutive change) and gives you a menu that lets you pick from any of many ways to yell at him. And admins do watch for 3- and 4-level warnings, and will step in unbidden much of the time. PhGustaf (talk) 22:46, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi BB - saw your note on WaWeegee's talk page. Both moves have been reverted as not with support of consensus (and against WP:NAME). B.Wind (talk) 01:23, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Whilst you continue to fool around on the RD, I will feel free to mention you name on any damn page I choose. Whether you like it or not is of no consequence whatsoever.
Here's the deal: people should be able to ask questions without wiseacres seeking to make a joke out of it. If you insist on continuing to play the fool, yahoo answers is thattaway. People should be able to ask questions without getting the third degree, and without being attacked for using an IP.
That's not much to ask, is it?
Oh. And the personal attacks on your talk page and elsehwhere. It would be good if they stopped.
So. Bottom line: Your behaviour is the thing that is causing you to be roudnly condemned again and again. The ball is in your court to do something about it. Note that it is not just me that's sick of your interventions; there's quite a posse. Makes it all the more likely that there really is something wrong with your approach. --Tagishsimon(talk) 13:40, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Stupid jokes
The reason to be offended by your stupid joke is that our users should be able to ask questions without someone adding stupid jokes. It really is all as simple as that. By analogy, it's rather like me asking a question at an IRL reference desk, only to find that the librarians decide to hold an impromptu gag-fest. Fuck that. I just want my question answering with no back-chat. It is not a question of whether equating mentrual fluids and dairy products is appropriate, so much as whether any joke was warrented. And here today's clue: no joke was warrented.
I'm sorry that you have evaluated that there's merely a roving band of users waiting to gang up on the next victim. A more credible evaluation is that you are annoying a groups of people, who have had enough of your childish behaviour. Putting you fingers in your ears and saying "nah nah nah", as you currently appear to be doing, does not remove the problem. You can be sure that whilst you continue to behave childishly, would-be adults will pull you up on it. You could, of course, take the easy option and grow up. --Tagishsimon(talk) 14:01, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"guessing"
Man, you are really sensitive and stubborn about this, aren't you? I'm not going to touch your latest redaction -- there's no point -- but really, that was not a "personal attack". —Steve Summit (talk) 14:35, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Vandalising the Reference Desk
Please stop editing other users' comments on the Reference Desk [27]. This is considered vandalism.
If you have an issue with this, please discuss it on the appropriate Talk Page. 87.114.109.244 (talk) 14:46, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Witch Hunt
Man Bugs, why are all these people grabbing their pitchforks? Those complaining look to me to be stodgy wannabe Yalies who are so full of themselves. Googlemeister (talk) 16:31, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The appropriate place to discuss supposed personal attacks is the Reference Desk talk page. Please do not edit other users' comments. 87.114.109.244 (talk) 16:47, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Your mention of it reminded me of a Playboy parody they did back in the 60s. The centerfold showed a young woman from a culture where a tan was considered unattractive, so that rather than sunbathing the women would lie in caves for as long as they could. So the model was Photoshopped airbrushed to show a tan where a bikini would be, and pale skin where it wouldn't. PhGustaf (talk) 19:19, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Awesome. The internet is the 8th wonder of the world. Some cutie. And looks vaguely familiar somehow. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 00:37, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Odd that two gentlemen of 39 can remember that far back. PhGustaf (talk) 03:08, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Years ago I saw a book on Irish sex techniques called Brace Yourself, Bridget. The pages were all blank. PhGustaf (talk) 02:07, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That would explain the move to Long Beach.Malke2010 03:29, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, my timeline is a bit out of whack there, as the Bantry Bay disaster occurred a number of years after this ad was made. But since the Universe Ireland, et al, sailed "from Araby around Cape Hope" toward Ireland, it's hard to figure how they might have ended up in the Pacific. Unless they made that left turn at Albuquerque. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 03:48, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Agree it must have been that left turn, and the keg of Guinness may have gotten in the way of the wheel and they figured, "A left turn is as good as a right turn."Malke2010 03:55, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Outstanding. Is that Barry McGuire in the second verse? Meanwhile, here's a number from the salad days of The Rovers:[31] ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 02:42, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You beat me to it Bugs, I was just going to say much the same thing to that other IP. ps .I have to see about delivering that Gold Star I awarded you (comrade) ;-) --220.101.28.25 (talk) 01:01, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"Satin worship"? Odd, I didn't think W leaned "that way", but ya never know. I have to give a point to the IP for posting a vandalistic entry that at least sounds vaguely poetic, like "the house that jack built", although he's implicitly rather unkind to the soft-spoken Barbara. :( ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 02:30, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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You likely wouldn't have even noticed, but I removed the nazi flag image from a post you made at ANI. The image you added was tiny, and (IMHO) unoffensive in the context you used. But since it was the only image on the page, it was showing up kinda big when you hover over a link to ANI using popups, and it bothered someone. I kinda ruined your joke, and I apologize, but no sense pissing people off for no reason. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:11, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Your emoticon fills me with an inexplicable sudden feeling of dread. --Floquenbeam (talk) 23:00, 19 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Watch out, read this... someone is stalking you at the abovementioned and had us fooled before. --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 02:45, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
...more than she ever did...
Did you notice the edit summary on my post about Clinton's possible gallantry? Sometimes it's fun to pitch a big fat slow one right over the plate.
One interesting thing is that Lewinsky apparently really didn't believe that she and Bill had had sex — a blow job to her was "just fooling around", and kids today use blow jobs as means of preserving their virginity. It wasn't like that when I was her age. PhGustaf (talk) 20:16, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I saw. Did I knock that softball out of the park, or was it more of an "excuse-me single"? Yeh, times have changed. I recall thinking ca. 1998 that Clinton and Lewinsky both were consistent in saying it "wasn't sex", although I'm not so sure they were saying it for the same reason. Had the process gone far enough, the Clinton team might have called Dr. Drew to testify, to 'splain a few technicalities to the stodgy old Senators. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 21:34, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Never heard of him before, but he might get along well with this guy[33], who wrote an advice column in the late sixties called Ask Dr. Hip Pocrates for various underground papers. It offered medical, rather than moral or legal, advice on sex, drugs, and other such matters. I met him in about 1988, and mentioned a column that I particularly rememembered. He told me that everybody remembered that particular column. Dear Dr. Hip: My old man likes it when I cut a small hole in his scrotum and blow it up with a soda straw. Is this safe? PhGustaf (talk) 23:34, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The folks writing those kinds of letters now infest the ref desks. Dr. Drew was a more recent version of someone like Hip Pocrates, or Dr. Ruth for that matter. Dr. Drew's sidekick on the show was Adam Corolla, and it aired on MTV, which will give you some idea of who its audience was. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 00:29, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Haven't heard of Drew, eh? Sober House and such are pretty big hits. But yeah, Drew says the bases have shifted- it used to be that a BJ was past a home run, now it's somewhere between first and third. tedder (talk) 00:44, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"I throw the ball to who. Whoever it is drops the ball and the guy runs to second. Who picks up the ball and throws it to What. What throws it to I Don't Know. I Don't Know throws it back to Tomorrow, Triple play. Another guy gets up and hits a long fly ball to Because. Why? I don't know! He's on third and I need a blow job."
Now that is funny :-D Stuff like this really makes me long for the days when we had the "Bad Jokes and Other Deleted Nonsense" pages. Sorry to intrude on your talk page Bugs but this was too funny. MarnetteD | Talk 22:25, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Any unwelcome intrusions here are met with stern warnings. Repeated intrusions are met by repeated warnings of accelerating sternity, including but not limited to italics, bold-facing, larger fonts, and fiery-colored lettering. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 22:36, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Like any good laugh this one just keeps getting better. "Sternity" I get but if it becomes Howard Sternity I am afraid that we will have to ask the children to leave the room. MarnetteD | Talk 22:57, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, there's an idea. If we have a free photo of Howard someplace, any "Stern Warning" should include his picture, just so the recipient knows we're serious. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 23:07, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A peach of an idea for sure. But please make sure that you get the photo right because a photo of Daniel Stern would not impart the same seriousness. MarnetteD | Talk 04:16, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Saturn? Again? My, he's persistent. And I have psoriasis, so I know from "persistent". PhGustaf (talk) 22:41, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hopefully it's of the skin and not the liver. Psoriasis of the liver is bad, I hear. (Chico is stirring in his grave about now.) ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 23:06, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I apologize for the "mindlessly revert" comment. --William S. Saturn (talk) 04:23, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I accept. :) I sometimes revert, and I sometimes do things mindlessly, and I sometimes revert mindlessly. But I try not to. :) ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 04:27, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi
Hey Detective Bugs are you still in the business of catching socks? I know you're pretty good at that so I was wondering if you could tell me if my gut feeling is correct or not. I'm not sure but I think these 3 editors might be the same person: User:Jack-A-Roe, User:Flyer22, and User:Legitimus. All 3 work on the same kinds of articles. I could be wrong and they could be 3 separate accounts but I can't shake this gut feeling that they may be the same person. What do you think? Cadencool 14:12, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Humor in unlikely circumstances
Not a problem. My view is that humor is as natural as being serious. I don't think people are as easily offended as is sometimes supposed. I think it is widely recognized that humor occurs in the most unlikely of places and situations. I can't explain why this is the case, but I believe it is the case. I don't think the Reference desks are any more "serious" than the variety of un-serious circumstances in which humor raises its funny little head. Bus stop (talk) 15:52, 23 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Our recently departed friend, for someone who just started editing just over two months ago, had an interesting knowledge of Wikipedia - apparently enough to know how to track user contributions, perform rollbacks, sign posts without the "user" prefix and now apparently also knowledge of the "retired" symbol for the user page - I guess that is possible for eight weeks of editing, but I think it a bit strange. At this point I am seriously wondering if we are dealing with someone who has been here before. In any event, I've requested a block on the account. -OberRanks (talk) 13:24, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
His approach reminds me of a number of "highly-focused" editors in the past, but not any particular one of them. He might be a sock, but his excessive behavior just under this username is sufficient to draw scrutiny just for itself. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 13:29, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
IP edits
88.108.16.87 edited at times between those of 88.111.63.26 so it's virtually impossible that they are the same person, IP address don't get re-assigned that quickly. --88.111.37.206 (talk) 17:09, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Why you accuse me of this? I always edit respectfully. You have no call for that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JSimmonz (talk • contribs) 18:38, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Him not bad person. Me think you silly poop head. You bad man. Rabbit. Thing. Bah. HalfShadow 18:55, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What action? Just because I side on Collins? Steve is rude editor. And Collins have picture. Why you guys at Wikapedia not like Collins? You harrass him! Steve say: "I come here to do work Americans cant do". I watch him well. Collins is get bad rap man. He doesn't want to be the editor, just fair article. And there was consensus until this Steve creep.JSimmonz (talk) 19:06, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Urrf. Unga-bunga. HalfShadow 19:07, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Look at picture in link to collins site, picture. Why steve say "would be". Steve is annoying man.JSimmonz (talk) 19:41, 27 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Mk5384
I said nothing about disruption. I stated clearly why both names belong. I also suggested mediation. Your case does not hold water. You are, of course, free to report me. I wish you the best.Mk5384 (talk) 14:14, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Bugs, if I wasn't half-asleep right now, I'd say that that was a challenge to ya. And after reading through his contribution history, my nose says that he smell of WP:CPUSH and WP:POINT. My reaction now would be to WP:DFTT and WP:DENY. Really no point talking to someone who's hell-bent on being a troll (versus someone who actually lives under a bridge) and as well as being a disruptive editor. All of which, have been summarised very clearly in WP:OWB. -- (carrots?) Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 15:42, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've voiced my concerns as well on the talk page of the article. Mk states he will continuously insert his material again and again regardless of what is stated or agreed upon at the talk page. The thing to do is have several users revert it and then report for what obviously will quickly become WP:3RR. I'm still also very suspicious of the amount of knowledge this user has of Wikipedia policies and procedures with "only" 8-12 weeks of editing. But, that is not something I can prove so its best left alone. -OberRanks (talk) 16:14, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia is doomed, what an awful waste of productive editors time. Off2riorob (talk) 16:34, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
FYI, the above thread was reported as a "conspiracy" and "canvassing" in this thread. A think the user in question was at last blocked. -OberRanks (talk) 19:16, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Guys, read point number 26 & 44 of WP:OWB because MK is fast turning into one right now. No prize for guessing where his road will eventually lead to, eh? Like I said before, let's just ignore him and continue with our constructive contribution to Wikipedia. Personally, I subscribe to WP:DGAF when dealing with this kind of disruptive editor. --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 19:36, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think that this is anywhere close to going away. I don't intend to provoke the user in question, but there have been three posts around Wikipedia in the last 24 hours that the entire situation was my fault and I conspired to have this user blocked. The most recent one asserted the user was "still angry". Not a good sign at all. -OberRanks (talk) 13:38, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, I've opened a discussion on Elvis Presley's talk page over the use of the word musician. OED defines it as: One skilled in music, especially in playing an instrument; hence my objection to the description of him as a musician rather than singer.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 16:56, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Generally the problem is, he is keeping a picture of Mormon temple undergarments on his userpage for the prime reason of making a mockery out of them, we mormons view the concept of them as quite sacred and generally I find it offensive, and its a big siren to his attitude towards mormons here on wikipedia. Ok maybe I shouldn't touch his page myself, but what should I do? Routerone (talk) 21:43, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
...considering you're part of a religion that has their own underwear (and nice bulge on the guy's set; nothing like optimism, is there?), I'm not going to comment any further. HalfShadow 21:52, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No, they are used only when members attend a temple. There is an article on the subject Temple garment. Routerone (talk) 21:55, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You're part of a religion that has their own underwear. I swear, I didn't think Mormons could get any funnier. HalfShadow 21:56, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
HS, I concur. Never knew that religion could get so kinky... except for the Kama Sutra by the Hindus, eh? --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 07:20, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
F-Unit Article
Did you not see talk in article? I find Authority Buckley scientist that lead to consensus in 2008? You said that what you want, what problem now? JSimmonz (talk) 07:07, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Copy edits
I was wondering if you could weigh in on an unrelated article.— DædαlusContribs 08:00, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oh look here! I wake up after winning consensus at night and see you have blocked then vote again after we win! You vote four times you cheat! Collins right this place is cheat! You cheat at baseball too? Go pray for you sins bad man!JSimmonz (talk) 04:47, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Text removal from John Pershing Talk Page
Since you also made comments on this thread, please be aware of this. The text was archived, so I guess that's okay, but I don't really see why it was so important to "purge" these comments from the talk page at this point nor do I understand the strong feelings of the user who removed them. MK needs no defending or advocates right now, as we have seen. I don't plan to make an issue of this, but wanted to alert you since your comments were also involved. -OberRanks (talk) 15:44, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
After reading about that one guy, I thought it needed to be said. That doesn't necessarily justify extreme BLP violations. But it's a worthwhile point. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 06:23, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Right! Looks like one of those Stephen Colbert "on notice" signs. Or like Harvey Korman reading the list of folks he wants for the raid on Rock Ridge: "...mugs, pugs, thugs... ... and Methodists!" ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 06:23, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"Crime?" "Stampeding cattle." "That's not much of a crime." "Through the Vatican?" "Kinkyyyy." Soxwon (talk) 18:09, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Saturn-esque
[37] since I agreed not to edit war over that particular incident...thank you. O Fenian (talk) 17:51, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
WP Baseball in the Signpost
WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Baseball for a Signpost article to be published April 5. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Also, if you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, feel free to share this with them. -Mabeenot (talk) 02:07, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I imagine what you said is exactly what will happen. Tomorrow will be an interesting day! -OberRanks (talk) 22:30, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm just saying, don't participate in the edit war. If Mk or someone else reposts it, let the admins deal with it. If we revert, then we're also participating in the edit war. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 22:37, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
His assumed name (per the article ...whose real name is Patrick Lamontagne.) Perhaps he has a cousin called Patrick O'Edophile. Weird. TonywaltonTalk 23:44, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
At first I thought it was a crude April Fool joke, but sadly it appears to be for real. I also wonder if he has a relative named "Chester". ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 23:46, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Speaking of the War Room you might want to take a quick look at these meager postings here User talk:Burpelson AFB#I like your username. referring to things that were going on at almost the same time as the (deleted) creme pie fight in the War Room. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 01:34, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Elvis Presley - singer or musician?
May I ask you to have a look at Talk:Elvis Presley. I am not happy with the discussion there, as user DocKino claims that there is a consensus in favor of "musician". Onefortyone (talk) 01:37, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your commentary on the Elvis talk page. What about this version:
Elvis Aaron (or Arona) Presley (January 8, 1935 – August 16, 1977) was one of the most popular American singers of the 20th century. He also played rhythm guitar and acted in several musical-comedies."
To my mind, this may be the most accurate version of the lead. What do you think? Onefortyone (talk) 13:11, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Guam
This is the kind of no-nonsense, common sense leadership we need in washington: [38]. Soxwon (talk) 03:45, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Let's just hope that was the Congressman's attempt at an April Fool joke, and not that he's an idiot. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 12:56, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
He claims it was a metaphor for the environment, but his hand motions and the fact that he treated the environment as a totally seperate issue seem to suggest otherwise. Either way, Congress has once again proven me right, the most important thing our tax dollars provide us with is high quality entertainment :D. Soxwon (talk) 15:31, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I doubt that Bugs would go there to entertain the troll. Time to move on, cheers~! --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 16:54, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Your comment with the stipulation is still recorded, I just moved it to the talk page [39]. The section about the agreements states to make all further comments on the talk page and that users should only place an "Agree" or "Disagree" in that section with any further comments amde on the talk page. Sorry about the confusion! -OberRanks (talk) 18:36, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have brought up the "undue weight" issue several times on the article talk page, and it was ignored in the filing. I take it from that, that my input is not needed. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 18:57, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps dieting would help, bugs? tedder (talk) 18:57, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, we appear to have a misunderstanding here. Your comments were just moved to the talk page. The mediation page format says no-one is allowed to make comments in the agreement section - it is just for users to sign their name that they agree or disagree. Any comments are supposed to be made on the talk page of the mediation dispute. Your comment about the undue weight was moved by my to the talk page. it's still there, its still recorded, it will still be addressed. Will you reconsider your disagreement? -OberRanks (talk) 19:01, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Can I remove you as an interested party? Your recorded disagreement will have the mediation rejected. -OberRanks (talk) 19:04, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Done. I've had enough. Going to these extremes over the contents of an infobox is stupid. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 21:24, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well Worth the Watch...
Just got done with 100 Year Review of the World Series. Don't know if you've seen it, but if you haven't, I can't recommend it highly enough (though I did get sick of seeing the Yankees at one point :P). Soxwon (talk) 23:28, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi bugs, I just wanted to come by and say hi. By the way, do you have any history with the IP user. I came across your posts and edits before, so I knew of you when you weighed in, just wanted to make a proper introduction. Thanks.--Theo10011 (talk) 16:37, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not with that particular user, that I know of, but its attitude is typical of too many that I have had history with. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 17:45, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
My Spidey-senses tells me another bus ride is coming soon... :) --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 17:52, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your support BB.--Theo10011 (talk) 10:42, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Can you please unblock the userpage? Before you ask, no, I'm not gonna ad the logout prank. Thanks in advance, User:TheclerkswellTALK PAGE!' 05:12, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If I were an admin, that would, in fact, be a laugh. Consensus seems to be to not unprotect your userpage. In fact, I don't like what I'm seeing. You need to focus on the straight and narrow. Your behavior "looks like" trolling. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 15:18, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I said it looks like trolling. Whatever your motivations, however innocent they may be, it's what it looks like. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 15:26, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Vandalism templates
You might find [40] useful in future situations where you tag vandals. Enjoy! - Denimadept (talk) 16:33, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As I've suggested before, the Twinkle package is really handy for tagging vandals — it gives you a menu of templates to choose from, so you don't have to remember their real names, and it handles notifications and stuff for CSDs and AFDs. Until you get a little practice with it, though, it's easy to be too abusive, so start off with editors really deserving of abuse. PhGustaf (talk) 20:44, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hypothetically...
Parenthetically, if you hypothetically had that disease, you would regrettably have no recourse but to take an aspirin and call the doctor in the morning. And please try to avoid laughter, as that only exacerbates the condition that you regrettably, presumably, and hypothetically are burdened with at this point in the evolution of the universe. Bus stop (talk) 20:12, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Re: Foghorn Leghorn vs. Senator Claghorn
Haven't checked the site you provided yet, but as Foggy's article discusses a 1930s radio character similar to both, and cites a source, The Foghorn Leghorn Story, which claims the dialogue track for the rooster's first cartoon was long since recorded—but the film well short of release—when Delmar first played the senator on-air, I doubt I need to. Bottom line: the point was already in the article, and wasn't my work. --Tbrittreid (talk) 21:35, 9 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"anti-Israel essay"
How is it "anti-Israel" and how is it an "essay"? nableezy - 04:05, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I am going to ask you nicely to not call me "anti-Israel". You want to call me "pro-Palestinian" fine, but the other is both not true and a personal attack. nableezy - 16:22, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Holy batman, 57 parties to mediation? What are the chances all 57 will agree to mediation anyhow? I've seen bots serve up less requests :-) tedder (talk) 00:21, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
57 of you? You should quit WP and go make ketchup. PhGustaf (talk) 00:30, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
All about whether to label Genesis as a "myth" or not. This is what wikipedia has apparently come to. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 00:33, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Ooh. ooh! You have someone famous[41] to mediate with. PhGustaf (talk)
You're sounding like Joe E. Ross now. Looking at the page, it looks like what the Onion would do if they were to parody Wikipedia. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 04:40, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Dekkappatation
I just took a look at the aborted little judicial brouhaha which my intemperate words caused the other day. As an appreciator of fine scotch, stinky cheese and atrocious puns, allow me to thank you for the laugh. "Dekkappatated". I'll have to remember that one :-) Happy editing to you! Dekkappai (talk) 06:50, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I noticed that too... it's an obvious clue he had left behind, on purpose. What gives? Anyway, I'm done with the stuff I was involved with at WP:ANI, take it away if you want to. Need to catch some Zzzzz now... FORE~! (Oh, that's golf and not baseball... my bad~!) --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 11:46, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Possibly the impostor, or possibly an impostor of the impostor, trying to draw further attention. Just the one edit, so they probably wouldn't block it anyway. I would leave it be, and just keep it in mind for future reference. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 11:54, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Tag's Page
Removing the comments of others should be avoided on the Wikipedia. Active Galactic Nuclei (talk) 01:49, 14 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm having to do all the work around here, lately. I thought in the case of comedy duos it was supposed to be the younger ones who were clever. HalfShadow 01:23, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Bugs! When a player has been cut at Spring Training and sent to a team’s Triple-A affiliate, is it still appropriate to use the {{Infobox MLB player}} template? Or, is there a more appropriate one for minor leaguers? If it is okay to still use the {{Infobox MLB player}} template, should not the team name and number be changed to reflect the minor league team? I want to make these changes to a particular player’s wikiarticle and wanted to make sure of the correct use of the infobox first. Thanks! — SpikeToronto 20:38, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry. I just thought with your name you must edit a lot of baseball articles. Guess I just learned a lesson about assuming, eh? Thanks! — SpikeToronto 05:47, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You don't know the half of it, according to him (or at least his socks) I have the ability to fool the admins to do my bidding. Good thing I'm such a nice guy, otherwise I might get ideas about ruling wikipedia >:). Soxwon (talk) 19:41, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just checking in to see what the objection was to my edit. I'm pretty sure everything I yanked was uncited at the very least and that almost all of it ran afoul of several other WP guidelines. — Bdb484(talk) 03:20, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Audience
Hello!, what I edited, I have references.
There are references to the funeral of Michael Jackson has been seen by over 2500 million people worldwide.
And there is no reference about the funeral of John Paul II has been seen by 2 billion people.
What do you mean by "validity" of the myth ? It's been scientifically proven beyond reasonable doubt that the Earth is not 4000 years old. WP:NPOV doesn't mean we have to treat all positions as "equally valid". The word myth points the reader to the fact that the narrative is in fact symbolic structure, and not meant to be taken literally. Claritas (talk) 16:07, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Genesis does not necessarily say the earth is 4,000 years old. That's just one interpretation. No one has "proven" anything in regard to Genesis. And "myth" is understood by the average citizen to mean "fairy tale". Hence it's not appropriate as a title. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 16:21, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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How about lighting up the Antarctic/Arctic region during the long cold and dark months? Tsk tsk tsk... such wasted talent~! --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 04:05, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
For the record, I must say that he is funnier than his boss David Letterman. And as for the impostor, it is the exit door for him again... guess there won't be any bus ride this time, eh? ;P --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 04:05, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't recall what his pseudonym was last time, but it occurs to me that he might have a lot of variations on it, some of which he might have created already. It would be fun to head them off at the pass. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 04:08, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Barnstar of Good Humor
The Barnstar of Good Humor
Awarded for making me laugh harder than I had ever laughed before while going through Recent Changes. Thanks! –Grondemar 15:43, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I need your help. Please watch list the page for a week or so. 63.223.127.4 (talk) 01:54, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not familiar with the show. How would I know which version of the debated info is correct? ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 02:49, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Please just look after it for me for about a week. You will see the IP vandal changing small facts. This is an important article for me. 63.223.127.4 (talk) 15:15, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
fyi
I believe that issues such as the one I raise here are among your areas of expertise.--Epeefleche (talk) 07:03, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Us both coming up with the same answer, within 5 minutes of each other, suggests that the "cloned from toenail clippings" theory was right. :-) StuRat (talk) 15:24, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Man, that Time Out album was a killer. Still have it, in case I ever get around to digitizing eight feet of vinyl. One thing, though, is that the songs are hard to whistle. Blue Rondo à la Turk, for example, is in 9/8, with a 2-2-2-3 pattern. It's hard to not make that last 3 into a triplet and force the meter into 4/4. Lemme get out my banjo and try... PhGustaf (talk) 20:16, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Then there needs to be a project to review all celeb photographs for "appropriateness" or "encyclopedic" value. Picking on one guy's photograph, when you've seen far worse, while leaving other "unflattering" photos intact, is itself inappropriate.
Maybe you are right. I'll think about this. I'm currently going by the theory that when a BLP subject comes after us and wants their biography taken down, our only sane public defense if we keep it has to include "look, the article meets super-high standards" which has to include the photography in it. We're less uptight with non-disputed articles. There's one right now (I won't say which) with quite an awful photo, but the subject is an active wikipedia editor and hasn't said anything about it, so I don't worry about it. 69.228.170.24 (talk) 12:14, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, I couldn't resist showing this to you. I almost fell out of my chair laughing. I love the line: "They need to be punished!" [44]. -OberRanks (talk) 03:31, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps we should be glad element 92 wasn't named Uranusium, see name etymologies#U, & [45]. I was thinking we could avoid that word by using thesymbol. But it looks like the south end of a cat heading north! ;-) --220.101.28.25 (talk) 04:02, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Appreciate your opinion here~! Peeling away now... toodles~! --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 19:02, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I just want Dave1185 to stop. Wispanow (talk) 19:04, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wow... he's a great stalker, following me wherever I go! Can I report him for stalking me? --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 19:07, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This is hardly disengaging... –xenotalk 19:11, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You know something? I agree~! Let's be on our merry way now and ignore the fiendish one, shall we? --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 19:16, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just to be clear, I was talking about your coming to Bug's page to ask him to comment on an issue you said you were going to disengage from. –xenotalk 19:19, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not exactly... but he didn't stop at 737, instead he went on to User talk:BilCat and then mine to rant about his being templated for his mis-behaviour (Go take a look at his contribution history and talk page history, methinks you'll see the critical links there!). Just curious, is this still a disengagement or not? Because I really don't want Xeno to come harping at me later, you know? ;P --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 20:21, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Seems like he was irritated about being called out for edit warring. I can't say who's right factually, but he's been here for 3 years and should know better than to edit-war. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 20:27, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thus, he is the Great Pretender... copycat-ing, harassing, stalking me and such. Does the above qualify as NPA? --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 20:33, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I knew it~! *lol* Well, he has thrice posted trollish remarks on my user page today, all of them were verbatim copies of warning templates/cautions I had left him for his own misdeed, and if those aren't copycat-ing, I don't know what is. Anyway, dumbness knows no boundary, like a certain "manhood" (reminds me of what Tim Allen's wife said to him as she motioned her hands over her ovaries, as mentioned in his book - Don't Stand Too Close to a Naked Man (1994) – ISBN0-786-86134-7) talking to himself on his talk page right now. Bugs, why do we always get this sort of nutcase? (P.S.: Whats-the-name-of-that-volcano just blew its top~! Run for your life~!!!)--Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 20:43, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
User:Dave1185 will not stop with his trollish and harassing remarks!!! Lying about the chronology of edits, too. I want him to STOP HARASSMENT!!!! Wispanow (talk) 20:53, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Bugs, just to be clear... did we harass him or did he just came here to be harassed? I wonder if someone truly understands the definition of "harass". Anyway, I'm going to go "harass" my wife now... need to sleep~! ;P (BTW, this & this will tickle you pink!) --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 21:08, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Several of your comments on Wikipedia talk:Reference desk were not at all helpful or beneficial to the discussion there - some of them could also be interpreted as personal attacks, and certainly not an assumption of good faith. Specifically, I am referring to all of your comments in the "Question Removed" section. These comments in particular:
"The likewise-banned user Pioneercourthouse (which might be you, in fact) used to use the same childish argument - that somehow it was someone else's fault that he kept trolling." (AGF, NPA)
"There is a way, but I don't want to discuss it here. The admins (or some of them) know what to do, if they choose to do so." - completely unhelpful, if you aren't going to answer a question, don't answer, don't tell people you aren't going to answer. Better yet, answer it.
"LC is a cow. Cows spread manure. Which accounts for the theme and content of most of your edits. :)"
"That reminds me, when are you getting out of Junior High School? Should be any year now."
Regardless of who you are talking to, it is expected that you continue to refrain from personal attacks and to not fan the flames of disruption by participating in it.
Prodegotalk 21:15, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If you studied the recurring theme of his edits, you would understand the context. And since when does AGF apply to banned users? ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 21:19, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm assuming Prodigo knows nothing about that mosquito. And it doesn't much matter to me. I'm assuming the ones that are more upset by the stuff he does will take some action once they finally get fed up. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 21:41, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I just had to say this before I go to bed... mosquito = (horse) gnat, remind you of anyone from long time back? Wasn't that bozo banned as well~? --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 21:56, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, wow. I do recall that. Years ago, and unfortunately I did not make note of which user it was. It was funny, though. "He called me a horse gnat!" :'( ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 21:58, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
IMO, a fittingly apt description for someone not unlike the fiendish one above. Good times~! --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 06:32, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Bugs, please read point number 18 & 48 of WP:OWB, the description fits like a glove for describing someone somewhere in here. What wisdom the elders has left us! -Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 06:41, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We should all chill a bit and remember that all the posters to bugs' talk page are perfectly nice people acting in good faith. Except when they occasionally kill you. PhGustaf (talk) 13:04, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Did Margaret Dumont have a sense of humor and did she get the jokes? Soxwon (talk) 01:05, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Groucho always said she didn't, but I'm fairly certain he was just telling stories or at least exaggerating. Watch closely when he pulls one of his jokes, and how she typically has a momentarily "startled" take and then resumes the dialogue as if nothing happened. She couldn't have acted professionally in comedies without understanding the jokes. In fact, if you watch The Cocoanuts - which is really priceless in some ways because they were still trying to figure out how to make movies, and there's an "informal" feel to it - in some scenes, you can see Margaret seemingly laughing spontaneously at something Groucho said. FYI, the last time I checked, the entirety of The Cocoanuts was on youtube, in about 12 or 13 "episodes". ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 01:21, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think there were a couple of specific things Groucho cited as "evidence". One was during the final scene in Duck Soup where he says something about, "Fighting for this woman's honor, which is probably more than she ever did!" Supposedly, she asked him what that joke meant. The more general comment I heard him say in an interview was when they were doing the Broadway play that preceded the movie, and she asked about the audience, "Julie, what are they laughing at?" While I'm thinking Groucho exaggerated things, it's interesting that she basically called him by his real name (Julius) rather than by his public nickname of Groucho. Which makes me wonder if close friends called him Julius rather than Groucho (like Curly Howard was called by his real name, Jerry, or "Babe", by his inner circle). ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 01:26, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It's difficult to imagine Dumont being as funny as she was for as long as she was without knowing pretty much what was going on. But meanwhile, sox, given the the Red Sox haven't peaked yet,
For the second, I believe a pay as you go system would work (every minute in real time after 4:59 gametime is 1,000 dollars taken from players and coaches. Soxwon (talk) 02:07, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
More apropos to Dumont: Gracie Allen was once asked whether Jack Benny was in fact cheap. She answered, "Am I stupid?" PhGustaf (talk) 02:53, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the note on my talk page.Mk5384 (talk) 03:50, 30 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Lots of countries have movies and sports. I'm not sure I understand the question. Appalachian culture, for instance, is indigenous American culture that exists nowhere else. --Tenebrae (talk) 05:35, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think if you go to Category:American culture you'll find that, except for a couple of anomalies that likely won't remain, the category contains general concepts like Uncle Sam, Roaring Twenties and American Dream. But what makes baseball fit this category more than basketball or football or skateboarding or any of a number of other sports? If every sport except cricket and soccer go into this category, then the category is so broad as to be meaningless. --Tenebrae (talk) 05:43, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Since you say at the top of your page that your comments may be satirical, I have the feeling you're pulling my leg. The category page gives this description: "This category is for articles about the customs and culture of the United States." If that includes s a customs or cultures that applies to many countries, then I'm not sure what the category is supposed to be about. If the category were French culture, I'd imagine it would include customs and cultures that were uniquely French. I think I'll stop now; I have a feeling you're having a laugh at my expense. --Tenebrae (talk) 05:50, 3 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I seem to recall you had dealings with Axmann8 and/or its socks? Is that correct? Assuming it is, would you mind taking a look at the contributions of 92.2.178.82 (talk·contribs)? Is this something you've seen before? The devotion to tagging indef'd users and editing sock puppet cats seems... odd, but I wanted to run it by someone smarter than me before raising it at ANI.
If it continues, we can semi-protect, and that will either force him to login or turn his attention elsewhere. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 19:48, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've not (gone to ANI) - I'm being a wee bit cautious only because I've been out of the saddle for a while. My instinct says you're spot on, though, and I dare say I'll drop by ANI shortly. Thanks for looking into this. Cheers, TFOWRThis flag once was red 20:03, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Then again...The original Sockmaster(s), may be impersonating the imposters to gain the upper hand. It all gets very confusing. 68.28.104.236 (talk) 22:47, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Some bozo said that I'm a sock, twice, and was then sent to the cupboard... they really don't come any dirtier by the dozen anymore, eh? Sheeesh~! --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 16:37, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
BB, T told me to remove all mentioning of the matter as the perpetrator is listed on the list of Banned editors, we seemed to have become his target(s) as of late. Please remove this message once you've read it or it will self-destruct. ;P --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 22:11, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
...that IP edit. Sure seemed fishy. If you'd like to comment in that RfC, your feedback would be appreciated. — BQZip01 —talk 19:59, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Eh...
What's up, doc! Where's the wabbit when you need him? --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 22:34, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wright, I haressumed zat thou haveth gotten moi's morse code before you sank zee sip? Orz... did eet juice Harry Houdini-ed? --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 22:52, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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:) Have you dealt w/him before? He seems quite young.--Epeefleche (talk) 11:39, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Never heard of him until today. The fact he doesn't know "Silver" is a Jewish name is a giveaway that he hasn't been around much. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 11:40, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hey -- check this out -- just noticed it. I was already so bright ... 3 years, 3 months, and 3 (or so) days ago ...--Epeefleche (talk) 12:18, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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...to be fair, I thinks there's a general expectation that Bugs has ANI uber-watchlisted... (an expectation that is likely wrong right now - it looks like Bugs is off on his holidays (Enjoy, Bugs!)). TFOWRThis flag once was red 16:26, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, I just made an assurance over at AN/I that I'd have a word with you about your repeated mentions that Ron Silver was Jewish. The incremental rhetorical value of your saying it again may have trended below the incremental annoyance value some editors are feeling when they read it again, so, IMHO: word. - Wikidemon (talk) 17:48, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wait a second. He's Jewish? Who knew ...?--Epeefleche (talk) 17:54, 12 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not Jay, for sure. I'm going to "banish" myself from ANI for a suitable interval. Too many thick heads there. (Possibly including mine, don'cha know.) ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 00:23, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not to mentioned that some Anal-elders had promised to watch my unprotected talk page but didn't in the "end". Talk about writing a fat check they cannot cash with their mouth... Sheeesh~! --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 01:59, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'll keep an eye on 'em for you. Sheesh; now I feel like a proctologist. HalfShadow 02:10, 13 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
On your advice, though crude and rude, I take it and have collapsed the ANI complaint.
If everyone were to follow your advice, Nazi Germany would still be around. After all, Hitler only killed Jews and most of the world are not Jews. Jews being gassed? That's their problem, not mine. Because of your advice, I just mine my own business. This sounds blunt but is probably the best way. After all, Plaxico was a busy body and is now in a New York prison. Assorg (talk) 06:15, 17 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"Far too many?" I suppose a million or two would be one thing, but six million is right much excessive. Yeh, I guess if you were a gay Jewish Romani commie labour activist in an opposition party, you were pretty much screwed from the get-go. Unless they would hold off because they couldn't figure out which category to check off. Kinda like the census, only different. Somehow, the part about a Pole breaking into a death camp sounds like an "ethnic joke" in the making. "Hey, is that you, Stosh?" ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 21:21, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I reserve the right to vandalize your vandalized talk page
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Whacking with a wet trout or trouting is a common practice on Wikipedia when experienced editors slip up and make a silly mistake. It, along with sentencing to the village stocks, is used to resolve one-off instances of seemingly silly behavior amongst normally constructive community members, as opposed to long term patterns of disruptive edits, which earn warnings and blocks.
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Whack!
The above is a WikiTrout (Oncorhynchus macrowikipediensis), used to make subtle adjustments to the clue levels of experienced Wikipedians.
To whack a user with a wet trout, simply place {{trout}} on their talk page.
Curses! Foiled again!
In keeping with that theme, here's some foil to wrap that overly-fresh fish in.
I'll leave that for you to deal with. I have no knowledge of Axmann, so I can't say whether it is possible it may be a sock of him and, given as I've already got issues with 'her', it'd look like I was looking for an excuse. 'She' is probably someone's sock; 'she' knows things 'she' shouldn't. HalfShadow 16:22, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You might want to take your concerns to that one admin. My guess is that the Axmann impostor is just doing this to cause trouble, as he always does. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 20:21, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No, I don't want to get involved any further. As I said, it'll look too much like I'm trying to 'get back at them'. Maybe take it to AN/I or SPI as suggested. Besides, I have no real knowledge of the subject other than they're a long-term socker and tend to 'hide in plain sight' I can't exactly go to an admin and say 'Yeah-huh, this is a sock of Axmann', given my lack of knowledge concerning him. HalfShadow 20:58, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Replied on the ANI page. The edits I made involved a noteworthy incident (largest law firm layoff in US history) and had good references backing it up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nycbl1y (talk • contribs) 18:33, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Stood for A smart, silly organism. Usernames are very hard to get. I tried about 10 choices, all taken or too close to another name. Then I made up an abbreviation. Now I am either A smart organism or A silly organism, not both. Assorg does not stand for ass orgy or ass or 'gina!
What is Bugs? Bugs Bunny? Asorg (talk) 02:29, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A scary thought
Hi BB. Saw your note on AN/I and it created a very scary image. Plaxico with a boomerang. I don't care how good looking she is I'm not going in the same nightclub where he is carrying one of those. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 03:33, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
* and Nathan Hale
Help, please; I hate it when I don't get the joke. Am I missing a pun, or is my history somehow awry? What do Nathan Hale and asterisks have in common? Thanks Bielle (talk) 03:40, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
He regretted that he only had one to risk. {"I regret that I have only one asterisk for my country!"} HalfShadow 16:04, 19 May 2010 (UTc
Oh, that was a bad one, but thanks for the explanation. I knew the quote -we were taught some American history in Canada in my youth- but didn't see that joke even long after it had passed. Zoom, right over my head. . . Bielle (talk) 03:43, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That joke is about as old as Nathan himself. Richard Armour had a twist on it: He said that Hale cheerfully remarked that he wished he could be hanged several more times for his country. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 03:57, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Not all the old folks have heard all the old jokes, especially the ones based on another country's history. It was new to me. Bielle (talk) 04:01, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. You are mentioned once in relation to a prior incident, and as such I am required to notify you. --Jzyehoshua (talk) 06:22, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Your edit warring pillow-fighting
Thank you for warning me of your actions regarding Latham. I would hope that you could maturely address the issues on the talk page rather than edit warring and using WP policies disingenuously.LedRush (talk) 19:23, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Bingo. Trouble is, the season has started, and I'm still here in spring training camp. That can't be a good sign. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 20:34, 19 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Latham, part 2x
Are you broadly happy with the stuff going on over there? The editors seem to be discussing it, but I've not paid close attention to the article edits. I think the editors are probably relatively inexperienced and enthusiastic, so simply need steering in rightdirection... but YMMV...
Incidentally, I pulled you up slightly at ANI; apologies for that, as I appreciate the frustration this article caused/causes. I do think in this case the editor in question was probably just inexperienced and enthusiastic (again, YMMV and I haven't looked to closely at their edits before I encountered them...)
I'll check on it. If they're talking, then all's well. I finally figured out what you were talking about at ANI, and I changed it to simply read "another editor". Now someone will probably complain that they've lost the link to it from that little right arrow dealie. You can't win. :( ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 21:16, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
One of the funniest things I think I've ever seen...
...was a Burger King and a Dairy Queen beside each other. HalfShadow 00:41, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Burger King and......Hey! How did that get in here?
Your attitude
One may get the impression from your contribution history that your main activity on Wikipedia is frequently playing games against some victims you have selected. Wouldn't it be more useful to include some further information about Presley's life in the Elvis article instead of harassing me over and over again? Just a question. Onefortyone (talk) 21:51, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've not been paying attention, and I've been out for a few hours, but things seem to be heating up between you and Meco. With my WP:3O hat on, I'm slightly concerned, in that Meco has, I believe, responded to a WP:3O request in good faith and been swept up in this - I'd imagine they were as unaware as I was that Onefortyone was involved with twothree however many ARBCOMs in the past.
No comment on the merits of Meco's arguments for Onefortyone, just a gentle nudge towards remembering that WP:3O volunteers are wonderful human beings...!
Fair play. I'll keep an eye on ANI in the meantime. I don't really think Onefortyone understands what the problem is, nor do I think they're going to. Anyway - enjoy your break! TFOWRpropaganda 16:02, 25 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting
Some rumors about our pal Mr "whilst" (you know who I'm talking about). You may recall the IPs out of Washington DC. Word I received was this might be an exchange student from England, circa 14-16 years old. Don't know how true ANY of that is but it would explain a lot of things if we were dealing with a loud mouthed teenager. -OberRanks (talk) 02:11, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As always, I urge you guys to go read up on WP:OWB... better to just ignore them (or revert them if there is a need to) and be back on our merry way once again. Cheers~! *hick* P.S.: I'm back from Shanghai, it was nice (including the Expo) but the signage were horribly messy (read as in incomprehensito!)... Bugs must be enjoying himself right now, well I'm still in a merry mood myself! 0:) --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 05:05, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Really cool essay; I even see some of myself in it which was an eye-opener. And, of course, at least half of that essay applies to our friend. User contributions on our friend also shows 5-6 straight hours of editing nearly every day. That is a flag right there to stay away. I've always found that people who edit Wikipedia for hours on end, day in and day out, turn out in the end to be very unpleasant. It also makes you wonder what kind of a life they have in the real world. Anyway, thanks to both of you all for everything! -OberRanks (talk) 12:22, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
A 14 year old student doing this much editing whilst he should be in school? Where are this boy's parents?Mk5384 (talk) 12:43, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If all goes well he will at least learn the correct version of the language while here in America. - Wikidemon (talk) 01:38, 4 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
C.I.A.
Wikipedia may or may not have a civility problem -- I'm actually quite sympathetic to arguments that the quest for civility is carried a bit too far in general, since I think competence is a much more serious concern; but outliers like MF & G are, of course, beyond the pale no matter what -- but it certainly has a serious C.I.A. problem: i.e. too many Children, Idiots and Assholes. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:08, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I suspect wikipedia is a victim of its own success and policies. I know a number of users who have left in disgust because of characters like MF. It's time for a change in approach, but that won't likely happen soon. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 00:14, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Changes in institutional culture can be very slow in coming, unless they're imposed from on top. I tend to think that the systemic behavior problems in Wikipedia are the result of a significantly flawed set of founding principles - the behavior is consonant with the structure provided, so only basic structural changes will fundamentally alter things. That won't happen, I think, until it's wrested away from Wales, and that won't happen until some major crisis comes along which so rocks that boat that making a change appears to be the only rational choice.
I suppose I'm being too pessimistic, there's enough play in the system for some evolutionary modifications as well, but there's going to have to be pressure of some sort to push them along. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:28, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thoroughbred
I realise that it is capitalised when referring to the specific breed. The term, however, is generally used generically, as in any purebred horse, in which case, it is not capitalised. Anyway, good to hear from you, Bugs. I hope you enjoyed your vacation. All the best-Mk5384 (talk) 23:45, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Where are you at on your vacation, Bugs? tedder (talk) 00:03, 7 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
In a rain forest. I took a wrong turn at Albuquerque. Not real sure exactly where I am, but at least they have WiFi. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 00:34, 7 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
When you said "lots of rain" I thought you might be up in Cascadia. There's been more rain in the first 5 days of this month than we normally see in the entire month. But if you're near ABQ, perhaps get some of the good blue stuff? tedder (talk) 00:36, 7 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hm so you took a right turn at Albuquerque eh. As can be seen repeatedly here [47] that has to be where you went wrong. Enjoy your vacation anyway. MarnetteD | Talk 00:57, 7 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Golf War?
Wasn't that won by Rambo Woods? Hm, sounded funny when I thought of it. >:-( Huh, never wanted to be a stand-up comedian anyway!
As for rain, I'm not on vacation and it's still raining and has been for a good part of the last 2 weeks! In 'sunny' Sydney! You didn't turn left at Albuquerque by any chance? If you kept going you'd end up......here! --220.101(talk)Contribs 15:50, 7 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
He'll most likely be back in Pawtucket tomorrow and never be heard from again. But he sure has a great story to tell to his grandkids. PhGustaf (talk) 04:49, 13 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You've been around the block, so I figured you might have an idea on what to do here. If somebody put in something as obviously wrong as "2+2=5" or what have you into an article, but you can't change this because a bunch of users say "2+2 has always been 5, there's a consensus to it", how can you change that 5 to a 4 without being blocked? I've had a similiar issue lately, and it's been driving me nuts. It's so obvious, yet either nobody cares that it's wrong or they adamantly want to keep it wrong. Doc Quintana (talk) 13:14, 15 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Bugs seems to still be in Taglio, or wherever, so I'll give your question a try. It's rare, in my experience, that there's a content dispute about something so simple as "2+2=5". If one editor finds himself at odds over a point of fact with several experienced editors, that editor should consider the possibility that he is mistaken. Also note that "obviously wrong" could easily be your independent conclusion; WP only uses material from reliable sources. If you have an RS to support what you find obvious and the other editors reject it, that's another problem.
It would help if you pointed out the particular issue involved. PhGustaf (talk) 00:53, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. We know 2 + 2 = 4, at least in our number system, but if everyone else is saying it's 5, then you have to find sources, as you might have overlooked something. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 22:07, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Dustin Pedroia just singled in a bottom-of-the-ninth run to beat the Dodgers (especially Manny) 5-4. I thought, "Gee, a real GWRBI. When did they write out that lame stat; five years ago, maybe ten?"
Turns out it was 1989. Made me feel old. PhGustaf (talk) 00:08, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
PhGustaf, I wasn't born in 1989 (just to make you feel even older). Soxwon (talk) 18:46, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Get the Hell off my lawn! PhGustaf (talk) 21:28, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That's about the time they started using the term "walk-off". Regarding aging, I'm so old I can remember when pitchers regularly pitched complete games. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 22:10, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And you payed 25 cents for a car and things were tough cause there was a DEPRESSION going on dammit!...Soxwon (talk) 22:17, 21 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Don't forget about having to walk a mile to school. Uphill. Both ways. HalfShadow 03:26, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
According to our article at walk-off, the term first started appearing in print in 1988, and may have been coined by the twin-careered pitcher Dennis Eckersley. So Bugsy's memory is still the second thing to go. PhGustaf (talk) 03:25, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Gotta love Pedroia and the Sox. He was 5-5 tonight with three HR, Dice-K pitched five good innings and got an RBI, the bullpen fell apart completely, and Papelbon got a tenth-inning vampire win. The Sox would be as frustrating as the Cubs if they didn't win so often. PhGustaf (talk) 05:47, 25 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding our recent correspondence and your final analysis, I want to say thank you. And I mean that very sincerely. Bill the Cat 7 (talk) 05:29, 22 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Noticed how some of these young punks seem to be making a fool of themselves when their ignorance about the subject are making them say such things? --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 04:40, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And that list doesn't even include the famous Alka-Seltzer ad, "Mama Mia, that's a spicy meatball-a!"[48] ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 05:35, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oi vey, if this wasn't enough, "Ay Caramba" redirected to Bart Simpson rather than to ¡Ay Caramba! Soxwon (talk) 05:44, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
¡Ay,chihuahua! This page is so damn hot right now... only thing is that it is so damn confusing me too especially the part about them crazy and scary people... wonder which article could warrant such a description? *nosey parker mode on! probably to smell them fishes...* --Dave♠♣♥♦1185♪♫™ 18:42, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Peter Sellers would have made a better Major King Kong than Slim Pickens. What do you think? I don't know that he could have pulled off the accent. (Just watched Dr. Strangelove btw, great movie, scary idea) Soxwon (talk) 05:19, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It would certainly be interesting to see how Sellers would have played Major Kong. He was a master with voices, so I think he could have done the Texas voice. But that part came naturally for Pickens. Sometimes things have a way of working out. ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 06:05, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Now what would have been REALLY interesting is if the bomb blew the wall down and suddenly they were in the middle of Rock Ridge... Soxwon (talk) 06:14, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there; I would quite like to e-mail you off-wiki, but your e-mail does not appear to be enabled. Is that intentional? --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 22:07, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
As you know, Kristoferb reopened the case on sertraline, and I don't think there's anything more to be said there. If you're interested, I'd like to request your opinion on the discussion page on temazepam. Kristoferb also contributed an image to this article, which I have no problem with, and I think it's fine. However, their argument is to remove an image which has been on the article since March. It's worth mentioning they originally came in and replaced the image, and recently removed it without consensus.
The image layout which I set out in temazepam is presently active. It includes 4 images; 2 of capsules, and 2 of tablets. Dosage of temazepam is generally standard at the 10 mg dose, so all 4 images have 10 mg dosages, so it isn't a factor. In contrast to the present article layout, this is the latest previous one by Kristoferb.[49] I made some addition contributions during this dispute which you may notice, as my interest is in the article as a whole. Editor182 (talk) 04:26, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Hey! How did that get in there??? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 06:57, 10 February 2010 (UTC).svg){kind=small}
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symbol. But it looks like the south end of a cat heading north! ;-) --220.101.28.25 (talk) 04:02, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
to wrap that overly-fresh fish in.
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