User talk:Amasssaudi

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Speedy deletion nomination of User:Amasssaudi/sandbox[edit]

A tag has been placed on your user page, User:Amasssaudi/sandbox, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be advertising which only promotes or publicises someone or something. Promotional editing of any kind is not permitted, whether it be promotion of a person, company, product, group, service, belief, or anything else. This is a violation of our policies regarding acceptable use of user pages — user pages are intended for active editors of Wikipedia to communicate with one another as part of the process of creating encyclopedic content, and should not be mistaken for free webhosting resources or advertising space. Please read the guidelines on spam, the guidelines on user pages, and, especially, our FAQ for Organizations.

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Hi Njd-de,

can you please which part of my article has a conflict of interest. I believed I just put only the description of our organization, its mission and vision. Apart of it are the recognition and distinction of the said organization. We need your support please. Amasssaudi (talk) 08:43, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You are writing about an organization with the same name as your username. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:03, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Deepfriedokra,

I will change the username and will publish again the write up. thanks Amasssaudi (talk) 09:11, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I'm Deb. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions have been undone because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you.

You appear to have a close connection to the subject on Wikipedia that raises concerns about a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred from the tone of the edit and the proximity of the editor to the subject, are strongly discouraged.

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Deb (talk) 12:56, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Deb,

can you please which part of my article has a conflict of interest. I believed I just put only the description of our organization, its mission and vision. Apart of it are the recognition and distinction of the said organization. We need your support please. Amasssaudi (talk) 08:43, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The whole thing! Please see below.

Hello, Amasssaudi. Thank you for helping to build Wikipedia-- the world's largest free content encyclopedia. The page User:Amasssaudi/sandbox has been speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This was done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seemed to be unambiguous advertising which only promoted a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to have been fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

This article needs to be rewritten from scratch from reliable, third party sources unconnected to the subject. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. It is not an outlet for promotion, advocacy, or advertising.

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Speedy deletion nomination of User:Amasssaudi/sandbox[edit]

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. A tag has been placed on User:Amasssaudi/sandbox requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section U5 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to consist of writings, information, discussions, and/or activities not closely related to Wikipedia's goals. Please note that Wikipedia is not a free web hosting service. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such pages may be deleted at any time.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. – NJD-DE (talk) 08:04, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Good day Admin,

I believed that the article is notable and deserved to be published in wikipedia. The Association is pertain to a nonprofit organization, it is an advocacy to those who are suffering from cancer.

It is recognized by the Saudi Government due to its mission and vision.

Kindly let us know what are the violations or guidelines that we did not comply in publishing this notable article. Awaiting for your positive feedback on this matter.

Kind Regards,

Amass Author Amasssaudi (talk) 08:11, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (May 18)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Eagleash were:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Please review WP:YFA and WP:MOS. Wikipedia cannot be used for publicity or promotional purposes and items in that vein may be liable to deletion. Usernames cannot imply shared or corporate use; a change should be requested via WP:UNC.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to User:Amasssaudi/sandbox and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Eagleash (talk) 08:39, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Amasssaudi! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Eagleash (talk) 08:39, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Eahleash,

I believed the article is all about the description of our nonprofit organization, its mission and vision and the recognition we got from different sectors here in Saudi Arabia.

I hope you will help us to do the right information please. Amasssaudi (talk) 08:46, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of User:Amasssaudi/sandbox[edit]

If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.
You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on User:Amasssaudi/sandbox, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:02, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your username[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. I saw that you edited or created User:Amasssaudi/sandbox, and I noticed that your username, "Amasssaudi", may not comply with our username policy. Please note that you may not use a username that represents the name of a company, group, organization, product, service, or website. Examples of usernames that are not allowed include "XYZ Company", "MyWidgetsUSA.com", and "Foobar Museum of Art". However, you are permitted to use a username that contains such a name if it identifies you individually (not your role), such as "Sara Smith at XYZ Company", "Mark at WidgetsUSA", or "FoobarFan87", but not "SEO Manager at XYZ Company".

Please also note that Wikipedia does not allow accounts to be shared by multiple people and that you may not advocate for or promote any company, group, organization, product, service, or website, regardless of your username. Please also read our paid editing policy and our conflict of interest guideline. If you are a single individual and are willing to contribute to Wikipedia in an unbiased manner, please request a change of username by completing the form at Special:GlobalRenameRequest, choosing a username that complies with our username policy. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. Thank you. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:09, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Deepfriedokra,

I have change the username and hoping it will be granted.

Shall I proceed resubmitting the article, please let me know.

Regards, Amasssaudi (talk) 09:51, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, but this is still a WP:CORPNAME "Because Wikipedia's policy is that usernames should not be shared between more than one individual, the following types of usernames are not permitted because they imply shared use:

Usernames that are simply names of companies or groups are not permitted (these also fall under Promotional names).
Personal usernames that imply shared access, such as "Jack and Jill", are not permitted.
Usernames that are names of posts within organizations, such as "Secretary of the XY Foundation", are not permitted, as such a post may be held by different persons at different times.
However, usernames are acceptable if they contain a company or group name but are clearly intended to denote an individual person, such as "Mark at WidgetsUSA", "Jack Smith at the XY Foundation", "WidgetFan87", etc." --Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:07, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: User:Amasssaudi/sandbox has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at User:Amasssaudi/sandbox. Thanks! --Deepfriedokra (talk) 10:04, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: sandbox (May 18)[edit]

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by KylieTastic was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to User:Amasssaudi/sandbox and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to User:Amasssaudi/sandbox, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
If you do not make any further changes to your draft in the next 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

KylieTastic (talk) 10:54, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

May 2022[edit]

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing because your account is being used only for advertising or promotion.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Bbb23 (talk) 11:05, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bbb23,

I am about to edit the article and will publish the updated one, but seems you did not gave us the opportunity to resubmit the article.

Anyhow, may I ask how many days it will take to unblock my account.

Thanks Amasssaudi (talk) 11:26, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Good day Bbb23,

Could you please help us to unblock my account.

Thanks Amasssaudi (talk) 06:09, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Creating an article[edit]

Hi Amassaudi! I saw your comment here at Talk:Steven Pruitt and I wanted to explain why I undid it. [1] Talk pages are for discussions about how to improve that specific article. It's no big deal, just something to keep in mind for the future! In regards to wanting to create an article, there's some good advice at this page. If you have a conflict of interest with this organization, you should submit the article through the Wikipedia:Articles for Creation process. If you're being paid for your edits in any capacity, you must disclose that.

As I was writing this message, I see that you were blocked. The reason given by the blocking adminstrator was that you were only here for advertising or spam. I'd suggest reading what Wikipedia is about here. Indefinite blocks aren't nessecarily for forever. It is possible to fill out an unblock request and be unblocked. I can help give you instructions on how to do that if you don't know how to. Clovermoss (talk) 16:01, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I will also say that in order for articles to be included on Wikipedia, they need to be meet Wikipedia's standards for inclusion. There isn't an article for everything that nessecarily exists. The gist is that there needs to be reliable sources like newspapers covering an organization that are not affiliated with it. These sources don't need to be in English, they can be in any language. If your organization does not qualify under this criteria, unfortunately we would not be able to have an article on it, as an encyclopedia is not for promoting specific causes and is for neutral information about encyclopedic topics. I will say that providing support to cancer patients is something I agree with and I wish you the best of luck in your endeavours. Something like a social media account may help with letting more people know about what you do. Clovermoss (talk) 16:12, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Clovermoss,

Can you please help me to publish the write up abut our nonprofit organization.

It is not advertorial nor promoting our organization, so happened that I included what our organization activities.

AMASS Association Friends of Cancer Patients (Arabic Name: جمعية أصدقاء مرضى السرطان -the Arabic word “AMASS” means in need of help and assistance) is a Saudi Arabian volunteer-based, non-profit, charitable organization.

The association established by Mr. Saeed Mobarak Almordi as the Founding Chairman in 2019 to provide the psychological and moral support to cancer patients and their families, and to educate and spread health awareness to the community about the disease and the importance of early detection. The Headquarter is located in Olaya District, Al-Takhassusi Street, Building No. 170 Riyadh, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

We have a lot of references that this organization is notable www.amass.org.sa recognized by the Saudi Organization because of their benevolent deeds. I am not receiving any payments for this nor accepting gift.

Hoping that you are able to help us please.

Regards, Amasssaudi (talk) 05:18, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Clovermoss,

You wrote to me saying: "The gist is that there needs to be reliable sources like newspapers covering an organization that are not affiliated with it."

Below are links to independent newspaper articles which I hope meet your requirement.

Please would you help us get a Wikipedia page for our Association given the trust that renown newspapers in the Kingdom are recognizing us.

References:

جريدة الرياض | جمعية "أمسّ" أصدقاء مرضى السرطان تعقد إجتماع الجمعية العمومية الثاني لعام 2022م (alriyadh.com)

جمعية “أمسّ” أصدقاء مرضى السرطان تعقد إجتماع الجمعية العمومية الثاني لعام 2022م » صحيفة الرأي الإلكترونية (alraynews.net)

ALHADTH (al-hadath.com)

https://today.al-jazirah.com.sa/flip/flipxml/index.htm?xml_date=21000101&edition=3&xml_date=21000101&edition=3

Thank you. Amasssaudi (talk) 06:08, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes please, can you help us to unblock our page as we are going to revise our article. Thanks Clovermoss Amasssaudi (talk) 05:33, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I can't unblock you, but you can fill out an unblock request for someone to look at. The way to do that is to read the guide to appealing blocks and copying the curly brackets in the block message a few sections above this comment and filling in your reason where reason= is. I will say that if you are unblocked, you will likely have to change your username to follow our username policy. Also, to make sure that an account is only operated by an individual instead of a group, because some of your language implies the latter? In regards to promoting an organization... I'm not quite sure you understood what I was trying to say? I'm not sure what the Saudi Organization is, but if it's independant of your organization and is considered a reliable source, that's a good start. Read Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) which I linked above for examples about what I mean. As an encylopedia, articles are suppossed to be written mostly citing information from non-primary sources. So you'd need sources like that. If there aren't sources like that, unfortunately there can't be an article. Again, I do wish you luck with supporting cancer patients (and still suggest checking out social media options that are available to you!), but Wikipedia isn't really for promoting any specific cause. Clovermoss (talk) 11:01, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

hi Clovermoss, I already fill the form to appeal to unblock my account. Appeal Key already provided and submitted. awaiting their response.

Regards, Amasssaudi (talk) 11:08, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I see that you replied to the blocking adminstrator, but unblock requests are typically reviewed by someone else. You need to copy the curly brackets and the text within to fill out an unblock request so that someone can see it. I will say that you're unlikely to be unblocked unless you can provide a convincing reason that you are here to build an encyclopedia. Clovermoss (talk) 11:17, 19 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]