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AFD Bot[edit]

AFD Bot's moving the wrong day on WP:AFD. [1]Cryptic (talk) 17:48, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Bot is operating correctly. See [2] then see [3]. Someone moved the 21st back up to the top. The bot keeps a 6 day listing, because historically, after 6 days, then it's considered old. It should not be a 7 day listing. --AllyUnion (talk) 19:49, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

where is a AFD Bot source?[edit]

I want to use it. how can i get it? --WonYong 23:36, 30 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Before I can give you the source, I have to understand what you wish to use it for, and whether you understand Python or not. --AllyUnion (talk) 08:25, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I will test and study the bot usage. I want "auto notice bot". and I mainly use korean wiki. I am not programmer, but I can use pywikipediabot. and edit .py files. :) --WonYong 22:50, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
There are some of the old versions of the bot script on the Wikipedia. See: User:AllyUnion/VFD bot code. By "auto notice" what do you mean? --AllyUnion (talk) 00:18, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would like to email you regarding permission to use this on my own Wiki; however, 'e-mail this user' is refusing to cooperate. Please email me so I can get in touch with you. -- N3X15 ( Scream · Contribs) 06:36, 2 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fixing the old watchlist-VFD problem[edit]

One of the big objections to splitting vfd into separate subpages per day back when was that, if you want an entry to show up on your watchlist whenever a new article is listed, you have to watch a gazillion daily pages in advance instead of just watching Wikipedia:Votes for deletion. CFD has the same problem, and so would the recent proposed overhaul of TFD (which has multiple other problems, but never mind that). It occurred to me today that this might be fixable by, instead of creating each daily page from scratch, to instead create Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/Seed, and, every day just before midnight, move that to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2005 December 31 or such before editing it into the standard format as is currently done. Watches follow page moves, so users who want to permanently watchlist AFD need only watch the seed page; users who only want to watch given daily pages can just watch those pages, as is currently done. Thoughts? —Cryptic (talk) 05:04, 31 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The problem is that you'll end up with users with, after a long period of time, an extensive number of pages in their watchlist which is not necessarily the easiest to remove. While I think it is a good idea, there is no feature currently in the Python Wikipedia Bot Framework that has a move feature, which means I'd would have to end up programming one from scratch. --AllyUnion (talk) 08:29, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AFD Bot[edit]

I think your AFD Bot is running slightly off time. Just a few minutes ago, at only 23:53, it auto-updated AFD instead of at 0:00. -- King of Hearts | (talk) 23:57, 31 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

That's intentional. There are several scripts that the bot operates at the same time, and I don't want the server to block any of the bot's requests so I intentionally update the AFD page first. So for about 7 minutes, the page is redlinked. --AllyUnion (talk) 08:23, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bot[edit]

Just to let you know, your bot User:NekoDaemon has violated the WP:3RR on pedophilia. // paroxysm (n) 06:10, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That feature of NekoDaemon bot has now been disabled until I upgrade to include a security feature. All concerns regarding the change should be directed at: Darwinek for he was the one who used the {{categoryredirect}} template. --AllyUnion (talk) 08:09, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please be advised that {{categoryredirect}} requires a parameter in which the redirect is redirected to, otherwise the bot does not operate on that category. Furthermore, that feature has now been restricted to sysop use only. --AllyUnion (talk) 11:35, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps it was out of mistake. I'm curious to know where is it stated to be, and why is it restricted to sysop use only? Thanks. — Instantnood 11:44, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You used on Category:Transportation in Hong Kong. It was recently restricted due to abuse and complaints made by various people. One of them was due to a new user not understanding the Wikipedia enough, and another by an anonymous IP. --AllyUnion (talk) 11:49, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Where can I read more about the details of the recently imposed restrictions? — Instantnood 12:37, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
See talk page of WP:CFD. --AllyUnion (talk) 00:13, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Toolserver[edit]

The toolserver MySQL database is lagging by 29617 seconds, and you've had a query running for 2 days 12 hours 25 minutes 29 seconds. It kinda looks like you might have a script running a broken query. Please look into it for us. :) --Phroziac . o º O (♥♥♥♥ chocolate!) 19:03, 1 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry... --AllyUnion (talk) 00:12, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm curious though, what were you doing that was taking so long? :) --Phroziac . o º O (♥♥♥♥ chocolate!) 01:27, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I was attempting an inner join with pagelinks, which apparently is a bad idea. The results through pagelinks is too much. It apparently doesn't take much to query the database to generate a table of redirects only, but it takes forever to get references for a redirect page in pagelinks... --AllyUnion (talk) 01:38, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Q: sign template?[edit]

--{{ult|WonYong}} ~~~~~
it is right??
I wanna write as "--WonYong (talk) 23:06, 1 January 2006 (UTC)" [reply]
--{{subst:ult|WonYong}} ~~~~~ --AllyUnion (talk) 00:11, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
You'll want to add {{subst:ult|WonYong}} to your signature in your preferences. --AllyUnion (talk) 00:14, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sandbox heading[edit]

You reverted the useful sandbox heading edit that I made, which was to add the message about editing only below the heading. Why did you revert a useful edit of mine?? Georgia guy 01:22, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A manual reset does not mean that I particularly did it. It just means someone clicked the button that resets the template back to how it was before. The way it is currently set up is that the bot will use the same text on all the templates. If you want to make changes to the template, I may do so for you. --AllyUnion (talk) 10:49, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Someone on IRC told me to ask you about status of my bot. Please see here for request. — SasaStefanovic • 03:03 3-01-2006

Help about bots[edit]

Hi AllyUnion, i think you are working with bots for a long time. I've a problem about some Turkish characters. I can't get page for example "Yüzyıl" on tr: wiki the problem char is "ı". (other possible problematic characters İ,ş,ğ) Do you know a solution--Ugur Basak 10:54, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Several, in fact. Are you getting decode and encode errors? One suggestion, and as I have done, is to set everything I could find to UTF-8. I used a sitecustomize.py file, and added the sitecustomize.py file to my $PYTHONPATH whenever I ran any Python script that was related to the Wikipedia. My sitecustomize.py file looked like this:
import sys
sys.setdefaultencoding('utf-8')
del sys
Hope that helps. --AllyUnion (talk) 11:03, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It gave that error module object has no attribute 'setdefaultencoding'--Ugur Basak 11:11, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
See The Illusive setdefaultencoding for more info. --AllyUnion (talk) 11:14, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment[edit]

Hello. I respect your comments, but I manage my talk page in my own way. I do not make archives and some stuff just delete from it. - Darwinek 11:57, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bots[edit]

Hey AllyUnion, have you ever considered archiving requests for bot permission on Wikipedia talk:Bots? There's a lot of old stuff there; maybe it could be removed from the page to keep it fresh. Just a thought, Talrias (t | e | c) 15:01, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your user page[edit]

I was looking through your user page, and it seems that Image:Uc irvine8300031.jpg has been deleted; it shows up as a red link. -- King of Hearts | (talk) 23:10, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I know, and I don't know why it was deleted. It wasn't deleted by me, it looks like it was lost. --AllyUnion (talk) 23:11, 3 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

pywikipedia bot problem[edit]

I think there could be a problem with the pywikipedia bot's touch.py and replace.py functions. I'm asking you because you seem to know a lot about it (and I've seen your name at Sourceforge).

The problem is probably due to the slight change to "What links here" in dealing with transclusion. If you take a look at Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:User zodiac there are descriptions after some entries: "(inclusion)". This makes touch.py think it's a double-redirect.

To reproduce: python touch.py -ref:"Template:User zodiac" -putthrottle:30

I'm pretty sure that the "(inclusion)" is causing the problem.

I'm spoken to a developer (on IRC) and they said that there is no way to check in advance when things like this change to "Whatlinkshere" will occur.

Thanks for your time (and diligent work at WP:BOTS).--Commander Keane 02:02, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ironic, I was actually working on that problem. The getReferences() function in the wikipedia.py needs to be modified such that it fixes and accounts for the "(inclusion)". My suggested regular expression fix for this is:
<li><a href=".*?" title=".*?">(.*?)</a> *\(*(inclusion|redirect page)*\)*.*?</li>
And the code needs to be readapted accordingly. --AllyUnion (talk) 07:07, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NetBot[edit]

Just curious... why does your bot not have a flag? --AllyUnion (talk) 08:11, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The entire "approval" process for bots is not very concrete. Back when I requested a bot flag, a couple users that had been quarreling with me objected. The compromise, I suppose, was that the bot could be considered "approved" (i.e. no one would block it), but have no flag. I don't care much either way, so long as I can use that tool to perform the maintenance tasks I enjoy doing. -- Netoholic @ 15:52, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AWB[edit]

Since you've inherited Martin's code, I would kindly make certain that you are aware of bot policies and high speed edits on the Wikipedia. Please make certain you read over Wikipedia:Bots. Thanks! --AllyUnion (talk) 07:54, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for giving me the link. I know that Martin had at one point an "automatic edit" feature that edited every x seconds, but was removed due to the bot policy. I'll make sure that I don't violate it, either. — MATHWIZ2020 TALK | CONTRIBS 22:09, 4 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How[edit]

Hi. I intend to use pywikipedia to replace sandbox at id.wiki periodically (just like your own Sandbot). Could you tell me the syntax to run the bot? I have tried, but still no luck. The idea is to replace anything with standard text right? Thanks borgx (talk) 03:37, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Click the 'E-mail this user' and send me an email. I'll email you instructions. --AllyUnion (talk) 09:49, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wikipedia category redirects[edit]

AllyUnion, I'm just wondering. Is there a reason to keep category redirects? Looking over both Category:Wikipedia category redirects and Wikipedia:Hard category redirects, I see a number of categories that are redirects for spelling errors or capitalization changes. I mean, if there is a redirected category that is empty, is there a reason to keep it? I can understand if it's to help people find the correct category to put articles in but some redirects are silly to keep around. I started deleting some of those redirects (only those who had no like CfD or anything linking to them or were just broken redirects) but am starting to reconsider. I'm still a fairly new user here, so I'm curious to hear what's your feeling? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:28, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Forget it. I'll (as I should) put them up at WP:CFD to be voted on. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 07:47, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vina-iwbot[edit]

It appears that you allowed the Interwiki bot User:Vina-iwbot to run for one week as a test. I have a minor complaint about the bot that I hope that you and Vina can take care of. The bot is making links to some articles signed in as User:71.241.248.89 rather than by bot name. See the history of contributions to Pope Pius XII. This is only a minor operational annoyance. Robert McClenon 17:05, 5 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

getReferences()[edit]

I didn't actually remove the set(); it's now initialized near the top of the method. Thanks for your comments. --Russ Blau (talk) 22:33, 6 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh... sorry, I guess I missed that. --AllyUnion (talk) 05:38, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

New category & tag[edit]

Well, now that I've upgraded NekoDaemon, is there a suggested template that you wish to create? Maybe something like, {{ctma}} with a category of Category:Categories to be moved automagically (or Category:Categories to be moved automatically); Let me know something you prefer, then I'll go set up the bot to do so. --AllyUnion (talk) 07:13, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any particular reason not to keep using {{categoryredirect}} for renames? If it's a category being renamed and not a permanent redirect, the old category (and the categoryredirect or whatever template is used) will end up getting deleted so do we care whether it temporarily says "categoryredirect" or anything else? If you're volunteering to implement something that would delete category references (under the same restrictions), we might call it something like {{ctbe}} with a category of Category:Categories to be emptied. -- Rick Block (talk) 19:17, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Well, not really, the only reason being doing so is that the bot's comment would be different. As for the later, I can do that too. --AllyUnion (talk) 03:44, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I think it would be a good idea, personally. That way, we can monitor one category, and delete the subs when they are complete. If we continue to use categoryredirect for non-redirect bot moves, we'll have to remember what needs to be deleted at a future point so it does not remain a redirect. --Kbdank71 14:51, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I should have replied a few days ago, but somehow I missed your message. I have no preference in this really, but I am curious if Neko can be set up in a similar fashion to perform category removals? Rick mentions this above. This would definitely be a good thing (under the same rules anyway). K1Bond007 03:20, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AFD bot change[edit]

Regarding your request a month ago... I have committed the new changes for you. I hope the new version of the list is more beneficial to you. See User:AllyUnion/AFD List. --AllyUnion (talk) 09:27, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's really nice. Would it be difficult to have the links for closed articles in italic so that those not-yet-closed stand out more? (Either that, or reverse the bolding so that the articles (and yes/no labels) are bolded if they have not been closed.) HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 13:05, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

...was blocked by the Curpsmaster 3000... I'm assuming that if this was yours you would have surely unblocked it by now. You should probably put a "not me" stamp on it so nobody else goes über-AGF and unblocks it. — FREAK OF NURxTURE (TALK) 18:47, Jan. 7, 2006

Bot Request[edit]

Dear Ally, I would like to have a bot so that I can collect information regarding the world universities. Someone directed me to your page. I was wondering if you can help me with that. The free web source that I can use for collecting info is findaschool.org and there are few other. Please let me know what you think. Best, Resid Gulerdem 01:48, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In order to best help you for your needs, you have to tell me what kind of data do you plan to pull and where. The easiest way to describe it is, tell me what you would have to do manually, and elaborate step by step. You'll need to elaborate the complete process from start to finish. --AllyUnion (talk) 03:42, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NekoDaemon bot request[edit]

hi, category:Herbal & fungal drugs/medicines went through the speedy renaming process some days ago and should now be category:Medicinal herbs and fungi; two subcats should be changed accordingly too, category:Herbal & fungal hallucinogens and Category:Herbal & fungal stimulants. i put up the redirect templates last night, expecting it all to change, but now i see that an admin needs to have made the last edit and i'm not an admin. so is there some way you can make your bot change it anyways, considering its a valid, WP:CFD approved changed? I'd rather not have to go through hundreds of articles to make the change manually. thanks a lot. --Heah talk 17:20, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Another user has already made the requested changes, as all the categories you've given me is empty. --AllyUnion (talk) 22:48, 8 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
yeah, bot U-571 started going through them all about 40 minutes after i left this here. Don't know who runs it, but it looks like its about to get blocked, as the owner hasn't even tried to get permission to be running it . . . thanks for your attention and time. --Heah talk 03:19, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bot request[edit]

Hi AllyUnion,

Thanks for your prompt response. I would like to collect basic information for each university from the web page findaschool.org The information I would like to gather automatically is:

  • Name
  • Date of Foundation
  • Logo
  • Brief history
  • Number of sutendsstudents
  • Number of instructors
  • Number of departments
  • Number and names of colleges
  • Some demographic information
  • Famous scientists taught or gracuated
  • National or international awards (Nobel pr, etc) their faculty got
  • May be a few others

I would like to put some information regarding the rank and comparison of the universities manually.

Is that what you were asking?

Thanks again...

Resid Gulerdem 09:57, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is rather difficult as the information you are looking for is not immediately available from a single page. But no, it is not exactly what I was asking. What I was asking was how would you collect the data and assemble it for use on the Wikipedia. I wanted to understand the process you'd use to compile the data for one school, say for example, Stanford. So you know Stanford is a school in United States, so you click "Main" next to United States. Then you would find the page containing "Stanford". This is what I meant by process. I would like you to elaborate the process in which you would compile the data you needed. From what page would you use to compile this data? The only thing I can see from findaschool.org is the name of the school, and a web link to the school. Nothing regarding any of the data above you've described. --AllyUnion (talk) 03:43, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bot request (articles in a project)[edit]

You replied to my request at the bot requests page, and I answered you there, but I guess I should answer here also. To refresh your memory, my goal is to take the list of articles that link to {{Numismaticnotice}} and generate a neat listing of them to put at Wikipedia:WikiProject Numismatics/Articles so that I can use "related changes" to see all the changes in the project. I have a java program that does this off-wiki (I cut-and-paste into a file, run the java program, then cut-and-paste into the Articles page). I know no Python, but I was a programmer 5+ years ago -- maybe that means I could pick it up quickly, but I'm not sure.

To complicate matters, something in Wikipedia recently changed so now the list of "What links here" from {{Numismaticnotice}} just got a lot shorter. I'm pretty sure it's because some of the references use {{Template:Numismaticnotice}} and some use {{template:Numismaticnotice }} and perhaps some other forms that I'm not aware of. So, now I also need a bot to fix the references. The list of articles at the link above has not been updated since this started happening, so the talk articles listed there are the ones to check. Ingrid 23:46, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well... the first part is that a bug fix is required before we proceed. See Bug 4549. --AllyUnion (talk) 02:17, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I had thought it might be a bug, but didn't think to mention it here. I see it's more complicated than I'd guessed. So, my original request has to wait, but it just occurred to me that I might have another use for a bot. What I'd like to do is make sure that all articles which should have the numismaticnotice tag do. There are only a few top-level categories for the project, so maybe it would be possible to traverse the category structure and tag all articles in the categories and subcategories. But maybe it would be too hard to be sure that the bot didn't stray outside of the project space, or get stuck in a loop. There aren't that many categories in the project, so I could put together a list. Would that be an easy task for a bot? Ingrid 01:59, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that would be an easy task to do. --AllyUnion (talk) 06:52, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Now that the bug is fixed, I've gotten back to this task. I went and learned python (boy, it really is easy!). I've got my java code converted to python. So, now I have a python module that converts text from a "what links here" page to the format I want for my articles list. I downloaded pywikipediabot, and want to write a bot to get the list, format it, then upload it, and I'm a bit overwhelmed by pywikipediabot. Would you mind helping me get started? If you know of some simple python bot-source I could look at, that would help. Or if you could tell me which modules to look in. Am I supposed to get approval before I start to work on a bot at all? It seems like as long as I'm just working on the one article I created, I can do my testing, and revert any mistakes by hand, but I don't want to violate any policies. Ingrid 01:45, 23 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I figured it out. Thanks for your original offer of help. Ingrid 16:27, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Category:Ancient peoples of China[edit]

MarkSweep has replied your comment at my user talk page. Please take a look. Thanks. — Instantnood 22:23, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

In addition, I don't think my dispute with user:Huaiwei and user:SchmuckyTheCat is relevant here, for this category is about the historical aspect of China (the geographical region). — Instantnood 19:12, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No source bot[edit]

Hi there. Do you take bot requests? I'd like a bot that will, every day around midnight, go through every image in Category:Images with unknown source as of unknown date 2006, and replace the "no source" tag with

{{no source|month={{subst:CURRENTMONTHNAME}}|day={{subst:CURRENTDAY}}|year={{subst:CURRENTYEAR}}}}

(Also, it could create

[[Category:Images with unknown source as of {{CURRENTDAY}} {{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTYEAR}}]]

as a subcategory of Category:Images with unknown source.) That would help with deleting unsourced images after a week. Thanks! dbenbenn | talk 19:28, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I can program something like this, but due to the extreme size of the category threading would be required... as a daily run would likely take forever unless it was threaded. Unfortunately, I'm very busy and unavailable to take on your request at this time. --AllyUnion (talk) 10:50, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
"Extreme size"? Category:Images with unknown source as of unknown date 2006 currently has 40 members. The idea is to keep it small by clearing it out every day. dbenbenn | talk 00:10, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sandbot is against profanity?[edit]

Sandbot keeps reverting my removal of "No profanity, please." from Wikipedia:Introduction. As Wikipedia is not censored for the "protection" of minors, and there is in fact nothing wrong with profanity, I am requesting that you modify Sandbot to stop doing this. In fact this sentence may give some newbies the impression that Wikipedia is in fact censored. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 21:49, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please reply? --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 15:29, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It is asking to avoid profanity, not to censor it. What would you rather it say, "Please keep your writing decent"? I do not wish to par take in any campaign or politics involving the whole "Wikipedia is not a censorship for minors" bit. I will change it if and only if you get 25 users who have a contribution length of one year or more who wants it changed. You may choose to take this discussion to a highly visible area, if you believe so strongly about it. Furthermore, as this initial request to clean out the Wikipedia:Introduction page was made by Trödel, his opinion on the matter is required. Frankly, I follow the 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' philosophy. --AllyUnion (talk) 22:00, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It was also suggested by another user in IRC to use, "this area is used by a lot of different people. Please keep it work and child safe, so they can continue to use it." --AllyUnion (talk) 22:01, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Furthermore, Wikipedia:Introduction is considered a special case Sandbox. --AllyUnion (talk) 22:06, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Seriously, what is wrong with common decency. The use of explatives on the Introduction page presents an image of chaos and lack of scholarly review that is not in keeping with the purpose of Wikipedia - to create an excellent free encyclopedia. Profanity can be an article, Fuck can have one too, but we should encourage common decency in our discussions with each other and the use of gratiuitious explantives in article text is not encyclopedic. Finally, "No profanity please" is not a censorship but a reminder to people to live up to their better selves, respect the many people visit this page, and there, of course, is no punishment or consequences for violating this request for decency.
I very much appreciate your request for my view on this issue; however, I was not the first person to use this language on the Introduction template. The language in the Introduction had reached concensus long before I began assisting with cleanup on it. And because of the large number of edits to that page (over 40/day when I last counted in June, I think), it would be very difficult to see who initiated its use and supported it being the concensus language. However, that this language has remained a part of the template for over a year is a very strong indicator; however, that it has reached concensus.
Thanks for the welcome back, and thanks also for Sandbot. I know it makes those watching for vandalism on the Introduction much more sane - at least it made me more sane. Trödel&#149;talk 01:57, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Curious if I could get the edits back last January - I found that the new offset based on the date is pretty cool. My quick check of edits over a week in Jan 2005 found that about 18 registered (and now blue) users edited the page, 12 of them restored the comment. 4 of them were newbies trying out editing with random text and 2 restored the template link without restoring the comment, but did not object to restoring the comment by others. Trödel&#149;talk 02:13, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

WP:BOTS[edit]

I think you are the unoffical manager of bot approvals at WP:BOTS. Recently there have been some "complaints" about the waiting period for approval (well, operators approaching me about when their authorisation will come through - the operators are excited about starting work I guess). Is the idea to wait a full week for objections? Or could I start approving bots, especially in cases where I know the operator?

I ask because Gflores is anxious to use G-Bot. Has approval been held off because it hasn't been posted on WP:BOTS for a week or you are too busy? Let me know if it's ok me for to authorise bots for a trial.--Commander Keane 23:40, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Categoryredirect & NekoBot[edit]

Hi. I have been working through the list of category redirects that don't use the {{categoryredirect}} template and correcting them to use that template. Since I am not a Sysop NekoBot isn't moving the articles remaining in the original category. Do you have an opinion on the easiest way to move the articles? I guess I could do them manually, but that would seem rather long-winded. Kcordina 15:56, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

You may list them on WP:CFD. --AllyUnion (talk) 22:08, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NekoDaemon and templates[edit]

Hi there! WP:TFD has finally grown out of bounds, with a page size of 369 kb (!) and per discussion on its talk page it has been split into subpages per day, just as used on CFD and MFD. Could you please have NekoDaemon take care of the daily TFD page as well, in an analogous way? Thanks! Radiant_>|< 12:05, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cancel that, I'm on top of it. Despite zero warning being given on WT:TFD. Grumble. And I've got a page move function implemented in perl (per discussion above), if you want it to integrate it into pywikipediabot. Should be pretty straightforward. —Cryptic (talk) 23:51, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • For the record, it was discussed for several weeks, starting 21st december. See here. Radiant_>|< 00:29, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NekoDaemon and template[edit]

I've changed a bunch of soft category redirects to Template:Category redirect, but I don't see any of them in the log. I am a sysop so it should show up. I wonder though, NekoDaemon's page says it is looking at Template:Categoryredirect which redirect to the one I used. Is it picking up both templates? -- Ricky81682 (talk) 20:52, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Looking it over, it looks like only {{categoryredirect}} works for NekoDaemon. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 09:19, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I came here wondering why the bot never works for me (I am an admin). I keep using the actual name of the template and not {{categoryredirect}} which redirects. It seems strange that it wouldn't work when you use the actual name of the template. -- Samuel Wantman 11:27, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, that part of the bot is no longer run hourly due the fact it's very process intensive. --AllyUnion (talk) 09:34, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I may have to investigate it, but I'm busy with real life matters at the moment to spare time to my Wikipedia efforts. --AllyUnion (talk) 09:38, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ah... if you look closely, it isn't my problem. The category has been changed for the image, but it is still showing in the old category. --AllyUnion (talk) 09:50, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

AfD bot not working[edit]

Title says all Sceptre (Talk) 20:16, 15 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Right to rollback[edit]

Can you please give me the right to use the rollback function?? Georgia guy 19:40, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand the context of your question. --AllyUnion (talk) 09:30, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I made a small tweak to the warning wording in the main section of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion relating to the AfD bot, and commented in the referenced section of the talk. Several users were confused about what things not to do, including myself, please, if you could, review that warning wording tweak when you get a chance, to see if it meets your approval, since it's your bot and you'd know best what files matter... For your convenience, here's the diff: [4] showing the tweak. Please feel free to reply here, I prefer to keep convos threaded so will watch here for a while. Thanks for the bot and your other efforts! ++Lar: t/c 20:31, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine. --AllyUnion (talk) 09:29, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for taking the time to review them! (I have stopped watching now, since this topic is settled...) ++Lar: t/c 20:07, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Robert C. Tucker[edit]

I just wanted to drop you a note since you were the deleting editor of Robert C. Tucker that I added a new article at that site for the historian, rather than the motivational speaker (or whatever was there before). Smmurphy(Talk) 01:34, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine. I have no problems with it. --AllyUnion (talk) 09:31, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wikifun round 12[edit]

This is to invite you to participate in the next game of Wikifun.
Round 12 will begin at 11:00 UTC on Friday January 20. 2006.
-- Ravn 17:24, 18 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, my bot have been over a month in testings for a week and it does not seem to be any complains. Who should inform in meta that I can apply to bot flag in this Wikipedia?

Carlos Th (talk) 22:27, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know. --AllyUnion (talk) 03:50, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nyaa![edit]

Hello AllyUnion. Can NekoDaemon redirect articles from Category:Uninhabited Islands of the Maldives to Category:Uninhabited islands of the Maldives ? Bad capitalization. Thank you. - Darwinek 22:08, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is a template refresh issue. The template has already been corrected and updated, but the articles are still stale in the category. --AllyUnion (talk) 03:23, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rakes[edit]

What is the difference between a manual sandbox rake and a reset?68.122.7.64 19:47, 21 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just two different scripts... that's all. --AllyUnion (talk) 03:22, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

VandalCountBot[edit]

Hi AllyUnion! I was wondering if you wouldn't mind taking a look at my application at WT:BOTS for my bot. More specificly, any comments on any improvments that could be made, or suggestions. I'm not looking for approval, I know I have to wait a week, but I would appreciate your comments, given the complexity of your bots, and your expirence with them. Thanks --Lightdarkness 01:59, 22 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question[edit]

I just noticed a few minutes ago that somebody used #REDIRECT instead of {{categoryredirect}} to move Category:Maori people to the accented spelling Māori. I've corrected it, but wanted to ask: does Nekobot automatically detect categories that need to have articles moved, or do I need to manually list this somewhere? Bearcat 01:26, 23 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nekobot will look at every category listed within Category:Wikipedia category redirects as specified by the Template:categoryredirect. It will then get each category page, such as Category:Maori people and look for {{categoryredirect}} and a category to redirect to. --AllyUnion (talk) 03:22, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bot request[edit]

  Hi Ally,
  I asked you about writing a bot for collecting info about the world universities. I was wondering if you could do anything for it yet.
  Best, Resid Gulerdem 05:33, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NekoDaemon and Persondata[edit]

I noticed that NekoDaemon has done its deed on Bill Stealey, in the process moving the categories below Persondata. According to the instuctions:

To use the {{Persondata}} template, copy the wikitext below to the end of a biographical article. The template should be placed after categories, but before interlanguage links.

If this happend to Bill Stealy, it is reason to believe that it could have happened to somebody else as well. -- Frodet 08:24, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

NekoDaemon[edit]

GO BOT GO!!! hehe, dang that thing that move, nothing but NekoDaemon on my watchlist, but thnx for the help with the currency category moves.  :) It's fun just watchin it :) Joe I 03:19, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed change to the AFD closing process and associated templates[edit]

Please see Wikipedia talk:Deletion process#Proposal from WT:AFD. I suspect it would affect your AFD bot. Look forward to your opinion. Rossami (talk) 04:31, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Bad edit of NekoDaemon on Template:If defined[edit]

Hi. Your bot did a botch on Template:If defined in this edit which lead to additional errors. It's fixed now but it caused some nasty confusion. --Adrian Buehlmann 22:35, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think the category move from Category:If Templates to Category:If templates is just a very bad idea because this category contains a bunch of very high use templates like template:qif. These were (and partially are) the subject of a very heated crusade originating from WP:AUM and Netoholic in the past. qif is thus protected for security reasons. qif should not be touched at all. It is a very high use template. Some 30,000 articles depend indirectly on it. --Adrian Buehlmann 22:45, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to that bot botch we have at the moment a large number of language articles in Category:If templates. They should vanish as soon as the wiki stabilizes to the now fixed Template:If defined (with the correct noinclude clause). --Adrian Buehlmann 22:52, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This is an issue that needs to be taken up with bot developers... I'd fix it myself, but as you can see from this lateness of reply, I have very little time to spend for Wikipedia anymore. --AllyUnion (talk) 05:37, 7 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]