I understand your point of view on this matter. The particular reason why I would like to use the the Tiffany Trump and Barron Trump wikilinks is because they redirect to the information of his children that can found on the Donald Trump itself, as of course, they don't have their own pages.
For example; When editing the source, one would write "Tiffany Trump" or "Barron Trump". This redirects to Donald Trump's page, yes. But it redirects to where information on Tiffany and Barron can be found, for convenience. The notion of using this in the infobox is also for convenience. Users can click on the link and it will redirect them to the information.
The links didn't re-direct to the personal life section, they redirected to the top of the page. As you said, I've changed them to be specific, now. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 04:52, 7 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
All Hallow's Wraith I did not see your correction/improvement in the text, that is why that was included in the undo. You are right, the contraction was bad form. As to her name in the infobox, I have read all the articles about Veronica Roth, especially the local newspaper ones, where I expected to see her middle name, but no one reports a middle name. One day I looked at several of her blog-websites, and could not find it there either, nor any additional biographical information of note. If her middle name does appear in a future article about her, it will be added along with the citation. Meantime, I would like to leave her name there for consistency with articles about persons. The box looks naked without it, somehow I notice it right away. Is that okay with you? Let me know here on your page. --Prairieplant (talk) 21:19, 23 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Roth could have a middle name for all we know. Besides, it's redundant to simply list her name again. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 23:29, 23 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, All Hallow's Wraith we discuss this again. Her hometown paper, her university's news and a lengthy interview with the Chicago Tribune call her Veronica Roth and never mention her middle name or that she has one which she does not like to reveal. All other personal details are supplied in those articles, included her parents, their origins, her husband, and the exact path of her success in writing, so I believe the question was raised, but its absence is not worth printing. Those are the usual type of stories to reveal a middle name. Nothing that shows up in World Cat adds a middle name either. That is why I would like to leave Birth Name filled in with her two names. She did not change her name when she married, at least not as an author. You put me in the position of proving a negative. Can you prove she has one and all those sources missed it? --Prairieplant (talk) 22:52, 19 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I think use Anne in the Birth Name with inline citation to the Gale Group reference. I did not pay to follow through on Fox River Grove link. It is a suburb close the one in which she lived (Barrington IL) but is not persuasive. I think of the name just like mine on a list of money waiting to be collected in my state, but the address for the person with my same name has no connection to me, so the money sits until that person claims it. That is to say, the second one is less persuasive than the first. And I see that all those Authority control databases seem to use the Wikipedia article as their source, in English or in French. Heavy weight on accuracy, eh? --Prairieplant (talk) 23:44, 19 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
So, you're saying you want to put in Anne, then? Good. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 07:13, 20 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi AHW, I noticed this edit, where you used familysearch.org to substantiated Max George's birth name. I was under the impression (WP:BLPPRIMARY) that we couldn't use public records for this sort of thing. Please educate me! Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:49, 6 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I dunno. But it is accurate. We for sure shouldn't have the other, wrong, name in there. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 02:11, 7 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Where he ended up? He's not real and "original continuity" is vague anyway. There are 3 different continuities that series. The fact that his eye opens is irrelevant. You're basically including a jump scare from the final moment of the film. It's not relevant to understanding the character, nor to the film series since it wasn't even followed up on. Reader's aren't going to care about "where he ended up" because they can watch the movie and find out that he opens his eyes. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 01:13, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't say anything about not having an article. But the idea of "where he ended up", like he's real and we need to chronicle his life is what I'm saying we don't need. You cannot deem something as "more important". Also, the "original continuity" has him dead in Halloween II. That's the original continuity. This last film is part of the third continuity. The film itself doesn't actually say he is alive. It's a gag scare. nothing more. His eye opens, she screams, that's it. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 01:57, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi. Can you please explain this edit? I started a discussion on the talk page (now here: Talk:Ellen DeGeneres/Archive 1#Infobox image) and you seem to have reverted my edit without discussing the issues I mentioned with this photo. I think our biographies of living persons policy as well as basic decency demand that we not use such an unflattering image of a subject. --MZMcBride (talk) 05:16, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I never saw your comment, and this seems like a very typical picture of Ellen DeGeneres to me. I think you should get consensus first, if you want to remove it. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 05:22, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello! Please help monitor Park Shin-hye's page because a user keeps on adding an "Endorsement" section which is a mere laundry list of brands Park modelled for. It is very promotional and overall unnecessary. Thank you! 180.191.147.81 (talk) 19:14, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hello! Can you please improve the career section of Ryu Jun-yeol. Because most of the prose is just peacock and fluff without any sources. It was as if a die-hard fan wrote it. It would be of great help if you visit the page and do some tweaking for objectivity. Thank you very much! Gyoza Rain (っ◔◡◔)っ ❤ 15:55, 12 January 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gyoza Rain (talk • contribs)
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Hi, All Hallow's Wraith! I've been doing some anti-vandalism work/looking at a seriously LTA set of IPs (over 100!) and came across what seems to be a long term edit war in the article above. I'm almost positive this is the same person I've been looking at (I call them the Overcat vandal) who is obsessed with adding "___ of ___ descent" cats to articles where it isn't appropriate (as well as adding false claims of descent in the article itself.) I seem to have gotten myself involved in this Italian-born edit war as well and was just wondering if you knew the history of this? Sorry if any of that is confusing! Chrissymad❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 14:15, 19 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
When I first undid your revision, the rationale was that the common name was already just a contraction of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, with "D." used in the place of "Delano." His full name with "Delano" spelled out is the very first thing to appear in prose. I did not think the addition was necessary. I note that the spelled out "Delano" was not specified in the "infobox," but it certainly was mentioned in a highly-viewable manner in the article prose. It's not a serious issue that I take concern with, but I thought I should at least explain. Master of Time(talk) 06:36, 10 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Her middle name or part of her surname is not Wholey that is just her mother's maiden name. The gazette source is inaccurate. Someone believed to be doing PR work for her left a comment in the edit summary. I could only find primary sources like this one that show her full name is Kelly Anne Rohrbach. I think it is best to just leave the name as Kelly Rohrbach for the avoidance of doubt. 80.235.147.186 (talk) 04:24, 12 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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My Cousin went to school in Paris Texas most of his life and lived in paris for a while can u please fix this mistake and ik what you’re thinking he’s not your cousin my mom is very good friends and was a dancer for him in many songs and in ice ice baby because a dance was sick and my mother was already a decent dancer WitchDoctor1998 (talk) 03:57, 10 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, All Hallow's. You're a good editor and a longtime valued colleague, so I wanted to draw your attention to the birth date discussion at Talk:Chadwick Boseman. In February there was a month-long Reliable Sources Noticeboard discussion, to which I link, that found Biography.com to be RS. We can always open a new discussion, do an RfC, whatever's best. But ahead of this, I'd ask you see the new post here, and then look at the January and February RS Board discussion. With thanks and respect, --Tenebrae (talk) 17:11, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm a good editor because I always get proven right. Even if Biography.com is a reliable source, that doesn't change the fact that many other reliable sources list Boseman's correct date of birth. Why delay the inevitable, when it's backed by reliable sources and public records? All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 20:03, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm honestly surprised to hear you speak this way: "because I always get proven right"? I don't believe any of us are always proven right, myself included. That's why I value discussion. Right now, we have two editors discussing the issue calmly and collegially on the article's talk page. That's really the best way to do things, rather than reverting and re-reverting. Let's start with the issue of public records you keep mentioning. None are cited in the article. Would it be possible for you to link to one on the talk page? --Tenebrae (talk) 19:59, 20 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I don't find saying Chalamet's grandmother was Canadian is relevant because first and foremost, it doesn't provide any more detail towards his early life, nor does it say something different about his ancestry. Canadian, like American, isn't an ethnicity, Chalamet's grandmother could have been Mexican or Swiss or Spanish for all we know, ie. you wouldn't call someone a-quarter-Canadian because it really tells you nothing about them, unless they had Native Canadian ancestry. ElizaOscar (talk) 01:54, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It means she wasn't French (she was born Jean Ashworth, and wasn't of French descent). Since all of his background is mentioned under early life, why not this part? It doesn't explicitly tell us about his "early life" in a technical sense, but neither does his grandfather having been a writer decades before Chalamet was born. "Early life and family background" is a better title. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 02:49, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I've reverted your edit because I truly believe it disrupts the flow of the article. Let me be clear that I'm not at all opposed to changes and any improvements to the article is a good thing, but if you feel that my edit was wrong, I'd like you to write on my talk page first so we don't engage in any edit warring. Thanks! ElizaOscar (talk) 04:13, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Uh, shouldn't you put his French grandfather in a note outside the main text, then, too? I don't see how one 25% of his ancestry is any more important than the other 25%, Canadian. And you just made these changes now, so no, I don't need to reach consensus to revert them. That's not really how it works. It's the other way around. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 06:00, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I absolutely think we should include the bit about his grandmother being Canadian, the question is where. Its current position within the section sticks out like a sore thumb right now. 1st paragraph goes like this: Birth, parent's occupation, parent's heritage, sister's occupation, occupations of his extended family (all in the entertainment industry), grandmother was Canadian. 2nd paragraph describes his personal experiences of living in France. See my problem? ElizaOscar (talk) 11:56, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Also "ancestry" doesn't work that way. French/American describes the nationalities of his parents, their ancestry is a totally different matter. ElizaOscar (talk) 12:16, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Well, if you're going to start taking out the Canadian grandmother, I'm going to start taking out the whole dual citizenship part, French father, American mother, from the opening paragraph. Like I said on the talk page, just about nobody involved in the 2017–18 Australian parliamentary eligibility crisis had their dual citizenship mentioned in their opening paragraphs until the crisis occurred, and these are people who lost their elected positions because of their citizenship status, so it's very relevant. In Barnaby Joyce's case, it still isn't mentioned until paragraph four, and the man had to resign being Deputy Prime Minister of Australia because of it! In Chalamet's case, on the other hand, it's a minor trivia item inferred from a little-seen interview, so to put it in the intro paragraph doesn't and never did make any sense to me. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 16:23, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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You and Ponyo are correct and I am willing to admit when I am wrong and I clearly am in this case. "The birth name field is only used if different from (the person's given) name. I apologize for the minor edit war and vandalism warning. I was under the incorrect assumption that the birth name field was used regardless. I have seen it used on numerous pages even when the person's given name was the same as their birth name. So, when I updated the page, I went with what I thought was the correct version. Again, I apologize for the confusion I created and incorrect warning I issued. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 23:21 on November 9, 2018 (UTC)
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1. I do Not believ That (Margot saw Robert’s Face clearly in Dark), but I want to Kno did (Margot See Robert’s Face clearly in Dark) befor (Margot fel Off Cliff)?
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I noticed that you edited the page for Ms. Fanning and removed the reference to her ancestry. The reason you gave for doing so was an understandable one... However, it is my understanding that Wikipedia does not exist to theorize as to how many other descendants a person may or may not have. The rule of thumb is whether or not a claim is supported by a verifiable reference from a reputable source. Ms. Fanning's descent from the Plantagenets is supported in this way. All of Edward III's hypothetical other descendants' claims are not.
Furthermore, this is not an isolated case... Both the actress Jane Fonda and the director Guy Ritchie are examples of Hollywood figures whose descents from medieval monarchs are spoken of on their pages. Why would Ms. Fanning's case be treated differently from theirs, or indeed from that of Johnny Depp - an actor whose ancestress
Elizabeth Key Grinstead lived all the way back in colonial America?
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Every non-royal living person's descent from medieval monarchs is completely irrelevant. It was 700 years ago. They have probably a hundred million descendants. I doubt even King Edward III could keep track of them all. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 02:43, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Whether or not you think that it's irrelevant is not what is being debated here, All Hallow's Wraith. That has been made clear. What I am saying is that you cannot say that the reference hasn't been properly sourced and that there is no precedent for things like it on Wikipedia. It's relevance or lack thereof should be left for others to decide... No doubt some people would agree with you. However, I'm sure that others would not. O.ominirabluejack (talk) 21:05, 24 January 2020 (UTC)O.ominirabluejackO.ominirabluejack (talk) 21:05, 24 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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You've edited Fred Malek in the past. I think the current conversation going on there could benefit from additional voices. Would you care to offer your thoughts on this? -- Pemilligan (talk) 21:05, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Having filming completed does not automatically make it notable. We know very little about this film because there is not a lot of coverage on it. ALL films (including the one you mentioned in the edit summary) must meet the GNG requirements. There is no automatic meet. Additionally, everything on that page is on the franchise page. Sometimes, even films that do meet the GNG might not get an article because there isn't enough information to support the article. Right now, this particular film is entirely "To be determined". BIGNOLE (Contact me) 13:44, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Silly, a movie in a quite known franchise, starring a Golden Globe nominee, produced by a well-known producer, has completed filming, and even has a teaser poster out on IMPawards. And presumably Elsie Fisher's other upcoming movie My Best Friend's Exorcism (film) should be deleted for the exact same reasons. Professional timewaster. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 13:49, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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My apologies, I should have duplicated the already existing source. The article isn't fake and the one you linked me is a different one. The source of that article was already used twice in the page, and it's the one which mentioned Gosselaar speaking Tagalog at home. Now it should be alright TerraceCliff (talk) 16:10, 22 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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A long long time ago, in 2012, you edited the article Max Weber and added the expression that Weber's mother, Helene Fallenstein, "partly" descended from French Huguenots. I wonder if you would have a source that supports the word choice "partly." That is, is there any information showing that part of her family was definitely not French Huguenot? Tommyren (talk) 15:47, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Not at all, I love Max Weber. This book says, "Furthermore, Weber's mother, Helene Fallenstein, belonged on her mother's side to the Souchays, a well-known Huguenot family." Vis-à-vis original research, Georg Adrian Ehrengold Friedrich Fallenstein isn't a very Huguenot-sounding name. Her mother, Caroline Louise Emilie Souchay, was the daughter of Cornelius Carl Souchay and Helene Schunck; Cornelius was of mixed French Huguenot and German descent, and Helene appears to have only been German. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 17:12, 27 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I'm just hoping to discuss your restoring of the material I'd removed concerning Joe Rogan's grandparents. I can make a thread on the article talk page if you'd like it discussed there instead. XeCyranium (talk) 02:52, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Why discuss it? Why would someone remove it? I just don't get it and I never will. He said it, it's accurate, it's on a reliable source. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 02:54, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi @All Hallow's Wraith! I'm so sorry for bugging you, but it seems like there's yet another RFC on Chalamet's page. Though unlike past discussions it seems like users are leaning more towards "French-American" this time. I'm just wondering, since I remember you were quite active in past discussions if you'd like to discuss again? Clear Looking Glass (talk) 12:21, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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