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I'd appreciate it if you would take a moment and review this category's talk page. It's my opinion that Cheeser1 has been disruptive - nominating the category for deletion so close to several other failed attempts. I'd appreciate feedback on my role throughout as well. It's not overly long, but I think it's an interesting topic for several reasons. Rklawton 21:59, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
RfA
Sorry Ali, but when you get a spare moment, could you please do said review. Much appreciated whether you get round to it or not. F9T 21:34, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Help me assess my admin readiness?
Hey; it's been a little while since we talked, but I was wondering if you'd be able to help me out. Llywrch suggested you might be about to look at my edits and history, and give some input into whether I'm ready to make the jump to admin. It's a *smidge* earlier than I wanted (I was aiming for 2000 edits, 1000 of which were to mainspace, and as you can see by looking at my history, most are 'real' edits, though often small gnomey grammar fixes, that happen because I'm reading the page, instead of just rv vandalism stuff). This comes up now because, as part of Gnome Week, I'd like to commit to eliminating the backlog at the whitelist, but that admin bit will be necessary. I recently did a massive cleanup of that page, but can't clear the backlog because of the lack of admin bit. I posted about it to AN/I half a week ago, but got no response. I understand it, but I'd like to see the job done. In the past, when I've needed admin things done, I've asked and in a few days they're finished, but this one seems to have slipped. Since I'd very much like to do it, I'm considering taking the plunge. What I'd like to know is if you think a) I'm ready for an admin bit, and b) if you think an RfA would pass (which are different things) and c) What other things I might work on (keeping in mind I am, as Llywrch said, a janitor, not a policeman ;-) ). Thanks for your help! --Thespian 05:34, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
Ping Robert Sieger
Can you pmail me, please? I have a question for you - Alison❤ 15:31, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Much obliged. I may now sleep tonight. --Rodhullandemu (talk - contribs) 19:28, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
I know, I know. It was seriously getting to you & I could see that. Sleep well, dude - Alison❤ 19:29, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Veropedia contributor
Hi Alison, the weather sucks here, so I'm staying in. What do you mean by Veropedia contributor? --Kyoko 23:51, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Ummm. Uploader? Fvasconcellos is an expert on pharmacological articles (if I may say so :) ) Bummer about the weather. It's like an Irish summertime here in Cali - Alison❤ 23:54, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
It's very Wuthering Heights here. I've uploaded a few articles so far. I need to ask Fvasconcellos about a source. --Kyoko 00:02, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Hmm. Thank you, Alison :) Ask away, Kyoko—mail me if you'd like. As for my helping over at Veropedia, I'm not sure I could be much use; I've barely been having time to contribute properly here. There's a lot of stuff on my unwritten to-do list I haven't gotten to... Anyway, could you set up an account for me? Again, feel free to mail me with details, etc. I presume, like WP, there's no... obligation to contribute? I'm unreliable right now :D Seriously, I've a deadline hanging over my head until next week, and should really be off-wiki. I've contemplated a block, but that be really bad for my record—I pride myself on self-control :) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 00:05, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Blatant WikiLove on the page User talk:Kyoko Welcome to Wikipedia. While we invite everyone to make meaningful contributions to our encyclopedia, edits that seem intended solely to amuse or spread good cheer are considered obvious examples of WikiLove. If you continue in this manner you may receive a smile and/or hug in return. Please accept my thanks. Keep spreading the love, and consider improving a random article too. Thank you.
*hugs* Thanks, Alison! I should make a template out of this. It's a modified form of the old bv template. Did you get my mail re: Veropedia help? :) --Kyoko 22:33, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
OK, I made a template at User:Kyoko/Hug. I tried changing my monobook.js to add it vandalwhacking script, but now it doesn't work right. It is supposed to ask for the article name and then give the "warning" for edits to [article name]. It's not asking. I don't know where the mistake is. Could you please look at it. Please make sure that the Hug template is untampered and protected too. Thanks! Love, Kyoko 23:02, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi Alison, I just sent you a message. Could you please look at my User:Kyoko/monobook.js and see why my script won't ask for the article name when using the Hug template? I can't figure out what is wrong. Every other template there works properly and prompts me to fill in the article name.
I also can't finish the Veropedia help today without some explanation from you or another parser programmer, questions also in e-mail. I'm signing off now. Thanks again! --Kyoko 00:12, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
I will, yep. I'm just in the door from shopping here & need a nap :) Will be back on later & will take a look. In the meantime, I semi'd the template, as requested. Thanks for the message, BTW :) My brain is not in a fit state to do template parsing right now though ... naptime! - Alison❤ 00:20, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Hiyya. I've done some minor hacking on your monobook.js - can you try that now and tell me how it goes? - Alison❤ 07:39, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi Alison, your edits didn't fix the problem, but they did point me in the right direction so I could fix it myself. I also took advantage of your edits to make my User:Kyoko/Smile template a conditional one. Could you please protect that when you can? Thanks! :) --Kyoko 02:20, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Looks like that's already protd, BTW. Thanks for the emails - response on the way in the morning (it's 3am here!) - Alison❤ 10:22, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you with this, but you are the admin most familiar with this editor. S/he is running riot on the Pederasty article (see history for list of changes) and is accusing an editor of vandalising multiple articles. S/he has even called for all of his Wikipedia edits to be reverted wholesale. S/he has been asked to leave the article alone until consensus has been reached. Until this morning, all involved were editing quite collegially. It is tiresome to have to patrol several articles (of which I have no particular interest in) solely to stop the disruptive contributions of one individual. How much rope to we give a disruptive editor before we allow them to hang themselves? By the way, this is now at admin incident discussion. Jeffpw 10:48, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Lara has finally been indef blocked again. I'd have done it myself only Neil got in first. I totally endorse that block and will be weighing in on ANI in a minute - Alison❤ 19:02, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
That was a long minute. :p He's clearly keeping an eye on ANI and responding on his talk page.[1] Hmm. Accusing an admin of bias... :) Thank you for endorsing the block. I genuinely believe that it is the most appropriate course of action. --AliceJMarkham 14:38, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Your help with "Jacobin" move
Thank you for saving me, Alison. I appreciate your help. Hult041956 17:03, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
No problem at all. Pagemoves are always pain to get to work right :) Just give me a shout if you ever run into trouble again & I'll sort it out - Alison❤ 19:01, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
You may well hear my calls for help again... but I hope not too often. Best regards, Hult041956 21:32, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Hopefully not, but welcome anytime! - Alison❤ 21:33, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Mail is always fun. :) Love, Neranei(talk) 00:44, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Ok - I went to do it, but a certain other person is on the case. Let me know if anything else is needed and I'll get to it ;) - Alison❤ 00:49, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Ah, I am quite grateful to that certain other person; another email may be on its way soon... :) Love, Neranei(talk) 00:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Heh - we even ec'd on it :) - Alison❤ 00:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
That must've been, ahem, interesting! By the way, *boink* again! Love, Neranei(talk) 00:55, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
No problem
It's fine, thanks :) ALTON.ıl 02:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
The above named Arbitration case has closed. The Arbitration Committee decided that [a]ny user who hereafter engages in edit-warring or disruptive editing on these or related articles may be placed on Wikipedia:Probation by any uninvolved administrator. This may include any user who was a party to this case, or any other user after a warning has been given. The Committee also decided to uplift Vintagekits' indefinite block at the same time.
For the Arbitration Committee, Daniel 08:23, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Phew! It's over. Thanks goodness, is all I can say - Alison❤ 10:20, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm sure there'll be a round two. I doubt I'll be coming back as the voice of treason for that one though.... One Night In Hackney303 11:37, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I've no doubt either. Like you, I'll probably also be elsewhere, all going well. Speaking of which, don't you dare go leaving now!! - Alison❤ 13:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm sticking around till that book arrives so I can finish the article I'm writing, as it's hopefully got plenty of background information that I don't have access to. You still haven't asked what I could possibly want that book for anyway.... One Night In Hackney303 13:57, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
:)
And because someone pointed it out to me! Thanks a lot for the defence (even tho I was unaware of it). I've posted to Viridae too as he has a point - such advanced behaviour from such a new person would now have me on quite a high alert - it can be explained if you know where to look! Cheers --Herbytalk thyme 09:57, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Ah yes indeed. No need to explain anything to me, Herby :) BTW - I recall a certain someone supporting my RfA waaay back when - Alison❤ 10:20, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Impressive memory that! Take care --Herbytalk thyme 10:38, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
There's also the not-so-insignificant matter of a certain commons admin (no names!!) being very kind to me during a moment of user image vandalism ;) - Alison❤ 11:00, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I have "strange" views about admins - I think they should be there to help folk (mostly not learnt here!) --Herbytalk thyme 11:07, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the semiprotect
Thanks, Alison, for semiprotecting Cro-Magnon. The kids were really going after it yesterday. TimidGuy 15:13, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your attention to my protection request. However, it appears that you actually unprotected the article, though you added the protection tag to the page. Please double check. Thanks! AndalusianNaugahyde 16:27, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Ugh! I am sorry. That's the second time I've done that in a week. I need to pay closer attention :) Thanks for letting me know - Alison❤ 16:30, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
No worries, we all have "off" weeks! Thanks for all your prompt attention AndalusianNaugahyde 16:40, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Irish language
Ali! I forgot to invite you personally - even though I haven't heard you mention an interest explicity, I suspect you might be interested in a Gaeilge task force.
What is involved in the Wikitionary project - how can I lend a hand? --sony-youthpléigh 16:46, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi Sony. I'd love to lend a hand with the Task Force. I've actually got a book here - 19th century - on just about every Irish placename as Gaeilge. I'll have to dig it out later. As for Vicífhoclóir, well ... it was almost dead two months back, but myself and Jaap and User:Moilleadóir have successfully brought it back from oblivion :) Feel free to set up an acccount and get stuck in. Irish words, their meanings and translations into other languages. Inter-cert stuff! - Alison❤ 16:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
By the way, wiktionary (or Vicífhoclóir - pardon the "v" :) ) is at wikt:ga:Príomhleathanach. We could really use some help over there! :) Slán arís - Alison❤ 22:58, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Please ma'am, may I vandalize?
I'd ever so much appreciate a go at the royals... LOL... thanks for the revert/block darlin :) ~Eliz81(C) 18:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Best. Vandalism. Evar!! And so polite, too :) - Alison❤ 22:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Able to help?
Hi Alison, I am just searching for someone to help me raise my standards of editing, with a view to being confident at approaching adminship. Would you have the time and patience to help me? docboat 07:04, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi there. I'd really love to help, but to be honest, I'm swamped with work right now both on and off-wiki. I'm also committed to coaching just one person right now and I'm not giving her as much time as I should be. Really sorry :( - Alison❤ 07:51, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
No worries - many thanks for the time! docboat 08:40, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Hands up big-time on that one. Sorry! I got myself into one hell of a mess - I knew I was reverting vandalism, but to be honest have never (in however many thousand edits) used the move function, so ended up getting things in the right place but, as you spotted, without necessarily having the edit history to back things up. I hope the edit history is all salvageable...I think I may take a bit of time out to bone up on WP:Move! Giles Bennett(Talk, Contribs) 22:44, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
More practice...more practice. OK - how about you go move-vandalise something and I clean up after you. ;-) Thanks for the nice messages. Giles Bennett(Talk, Contribs) 22:50, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Will definitely have a look over the weekend - bed beckons in the meantime! Thanks for the advice! Giles Bennett(Talk, Contribs) 22:59, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Well jeez, Alison, way to protect the wrong version. I guess I should have got my kicks in on the edit war before going to RFPP. :-P Thanks. ➪HiDrNick! 04:30, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Sorry about that. given the amount of mayhem that was going on, there was little else to do other than slam on the brakes. I've no interest as to content once it's apparent that it's largely a content dispute. Semi-prot would have been just wrong in this circumstance. In fact, I initially semi'd it then moved it up to full - Alison❤ 04:50, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
No, I know, I was just teasing. I didn't think that semi-protection would fly when I asked for it, I just thought I'd give it a shot. Should have asked a newbie admin directly instead. :) ➪HiDrNick! 05:00, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
LOL!!! Get outta here :) :) Nice try, though :D - Alison❤ 05:03, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
IRC
Are you about, or are you busy working? Need some advice on something. Thanks. One Night In Hackney303 16:48, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
On now. Usual place :) - Alison❤ 16:53, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the help
Regarding the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, your help is greatly appreciated. I'd rather not translate the filth that the anon ip user kept inserting; suffice it to say, the comments were ethnic hate messages under the banner of nationalism. Much thanks.--Riurik(discuss) 23:05, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
No problem. Glad to help :) - Alison❤ 23:06, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Alison! I'd ask you to reconsider full protection of Electric Picnic and move to semi-protection. It's senseless to ask editors reach a consensus on the talk page, because as far as I can see there is a consensus on the talk page: a rogue IP is continuously inserting unsourced, heavily POV material laden with weasel words and has no intention of discussing anything at all. Of the five editors who have participated on the talk page (including myself), four of them agree with this characterization and the other does not necessarily disagree. Just to let you know, I'd never seen this article before it was protected and I'd never heard of Electric Picnic before, so I consider myself a pretty neutral pair of eyes. Cheers! --Hyperbole 23:28, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Ok - good call. Changing now, so. All I needed to see was some sort of consensus there because all I could see what a content dispute. I think Stu got a bit annoyed about it :( - Alison❤ 00:07, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
No
It was no more reliably sourced than my edit was at all. Mine was just as reliably sourced and it was edited out by someone who was either a person of authority or posing as one. So please dispense with the warnings and issue them where they rightfully belong, those who are undoing my posts on the SBC listing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SBCwatch (talk • contribs)
I'm sorry, but you're adding unsourced commentary to that article and a number of other editors are reverting your changes. Please try to find reliable sources for these controversial edits and you shouldn't have any problems. Simply reverting again and again will just get your account blocked for disruption. Please bring it to the talk page and the other editors will work with you on this - Alison❤ 01:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
I made my very first userbox and am passing it out. I won't be terribly offended if don't put it on your page. And if you want to make one for yourself, just create a subpage under your user page and just copy/paste the code from User:Tinkleheimer/RespectedByTinkleheimer. Thanks!!Trevor"Tinkleheimer"Haworth 03:07, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Wow - cool! Thank you :) I really like the icon. Thank you so much :) - Alison❤ 03:38, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Quake
Wow - we just had an earthquake here maybe 10 mins ago. On my phone here - wowz! Felt like a 5 or greater. My partner went into ERT mode and got us all safe. No biggie but wow - scary enough!! - Alison❤ 03:16, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, Foz, fine here :) Just shook us all up a bit. Californians here just pick themselves up, dust off, shrug and get back to whatever it was they were at. But yeah, looks like a 5.6, and pretty near to us, too. Just a few miles north[2]. Enough to make a few things fall over and stuff. We all hid under our oak kitchen table! My partner is on the Incident Response Team and could get called out yet. All teh drahmaz :) - Alison❤ 03:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Yup, was just checking that page.. eek. glad all is ok. SirFozzie 03:38, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks Mike. Yeah, we're newbies here, as are our Taiwanese next-door-neighbours :) We were all outside afterwards checking for damage, etc while all the rest of California were still watching TV. Business as usual :) - Alison❤ 04:22, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
I say we were watching TV—I didn't even feel it. And I'm usually the first one to feel an earthquake… (GASP! I'm losing feeling in my feet!!!!!) :P — $PЯINGεrαgђ 04:29, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm just glad that no one got hurt. Especially you, Alison! <3 Kyoko 05:21, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Wow, first time—I think—you've said in Gaelic something I didn't understand. (I'm bad, but not that bad apparently :P) I should have listened to my parents speaking Gaelic to each other when I was younger. :( But you can imagine, little boy eating dinner really fast so he can go outside and play some more (for example) + language he doesn't understand = limited knowledge of it ten to fifteen years later. :/ I really would love to go back to Ireland… — $PЯINGεrαgђ 23:14, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Ok I get it now
I understand it now. Southern Baptists are off limits to criticism and nothing bad is allowed to be said or shown about Southern Baptists on Wikipedia, even if it is sourced very well, as my page was sourced reliably, which according to the rules is all that is required. I understand also that just about anything else or religious group can be criticized but that the Southern Baptists are off limits to that same reliably sourced criticism. You don't have to keep repeating yourself to me, and saying all kinds of mean nasty things to me. I get it now.Also could you please tell me how my page could have been potentially libelous when all the people listed on my page had been either convicted, or had already confessed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SBCwatch (talk • contribs)
I'm not a Southern Baptist - hey, I'm not even Christian. Please take your battle elsewhere and stop posting potentially libelous, unsourced material (especially not on your userpage). As I've been saying, please work with others to provide, reliablesourced information for those articles. Stop being disruptive and stop attacking other editors. Seriously, you're past your last chance here - Alison❤ 17:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
So you too are of the opinion that the Miami Herald, the New Orleans Times Picayune and other newspapers that were the sources of my edit are UNRELIABLE sources? I have not posted anything libelous, or even potentially libelous, any more than the edit on the ELCA page was libelous that you allowed back on. I am just hoping for some consistency here but not very hopeful that it exists on Wikipedia with some of you editors at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by SBCwatch (talk • contribs) 17:42, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
SBCWatch went and posted something similar to his user page, again, so I redeleted it, and he's facing a short time out for his actions. Just making sure you're aware :) SirFozzie 19:30, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, Foz. He was posting long lists of names of alleged 'offenders' with little to back it up. Soapboxing, POV-pushing, incivility, revert-warring. He had every chance but wouldn't listen. Thanks again ;) - Alison❤ 20:22, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
The Pharmacology Collaboration of the Week has been changed to Collaboration of the Month, based on current participation levels. It is also more likely that articles collaborated on for one month are more likely to achieve featured quality than articles worked on for only a week or two.
Thanks for your support in my recent request for adminship, which was successful. I'll do my best to justify the confidence you've placed in me! Dppowell 23:05, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
semi-protect request
Hi Alison, could you please change the protection level on User:Kyoko/Header to semi-, so that I can edit it? You don't have to do it immediately, just whenever you have a moment. Thanks! --Kyoko 04:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, Alison. --Kyoko 05:46, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
eek, you're not going to like this, but I think I got confused. My header is on .css file which I just changed. It is (shown) on User:Kyoko/Header which I think can remain fully-protected but now I'm not sure. Riana came up with this idea and I am still confused. ? --Kyoko 05:54, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
So am I :) I think Riana suggested you make a header.css and transpose that onto your userpage. That way, only you can edit it - Alison❤ 06:05, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
I just thought of something: can I put header.css inside my userpage.css? That way, the User:Kyoko/Header doesn't need to exist. Sorry if I'm not clear. --Kyoko 06:09, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Ummmm. "Rianaaaaaa"?? - Alison❤ 06:15, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
It's not a big deal. You can reprotect User:Kyoko/Header if you think it best. I had forgotten about the whole .css setup until tonight. Sorry for all the trouble. Hope you had a Happy Halloween. --Kyoko 06:18, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Uhm I don't know if you can transclude the css inside another css file :s What I intended was for you to change the header.css, which transcludes in your header, which is in turn transcluded on your userpage.css, which is in turn transcluded on your userpage... /me runs out of breath and sits down for a while ~ Riana ⁂ 06:33, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi Riana, that's what I did before, and then I forgot how everything was, and then I thought about cutting down on my subpages, so I thought of the idea up above. So I'm just confused. --Kyoko 06:38, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Subpages
Just a question, how do you delete user subpages? F9T 13:31, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
If you need user subpages deleted, you can simply mark them as {{db-userreq}} and they will be done by an admin on CSD patrol. Otherwise, you can just show me the links here and I can do it for you :) - Alison❤ 15:23, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
OK, thanks, I like your lil heart on your sig. F9T 07:28, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Thanks :) It's better than the old smiley-face one I had - Alison❤ 18:05, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
For time, there are alot, i thought i would tell you which ones i would like to keep, i have made some pointless ones:
Yes I would certainly be interested in joining. I've held off because my written Irish isn't great. I've done my bit so far by adding Gaeilge place names to English articles.
I would certainly like to add stubs to the Gaeilge Wiki but I'd probably make a few mistakes. If you all don't mind correcting my mistakes, I'd be more than happy to join and contribute, and improve my Irish. Wiki01916 19:44, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Please do join up - that would be awesome. There are people over there at all levels of Irish proficiency. See also the Irish language wiktionary (the free dictionary) at wikt:ga:Príomhleathanach if you'd like to get involved in dictionary work. We could really use some help over there! :) Slán arís - Alison❤ 22:58, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
Veropedia Account
Hi Allison...I was directed here from Moreschi's user page. I am interested in the new Veropedia site, and would like to learn what is required to be a contributor there. I am an amateur classicist (Veropedia adopted my recently-revised article on Propertius), and would like to contribute in a more scholarly environment. Can you help, thx:-)Chjones 60656 20:45, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Certainly, I can set you up with an account on Veropedia if you like. Just email me some details; your username, your "real name" (not necessary), your preferred email address & I'll do the rest. I'll mail on the welcome package :) If you like, you can join us on IRC at #veropedia & we can talk you through the process - Alison❤ 21:03, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, just wondering, several IP's are adding countries pre-maturely into groups, is it possible to have the page semi-protected or not? F9T 08:25, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Declined - Hi there. I'm sorry, but there really isn't enough disruption to justify protection of it at this time. Really sorry - Alison❤ 17:45, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Fine! Thanks for looking at that anyway :) F9T 21:59, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Help in restoring an article
Hello, Alison. I believe that an article was deleted in error — the Bennifer article. Not only is the term Bennifer (for Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez) just as notable a term as Posh and Becks, but it didn't go through a proper deletion debate (AfD)...or else I'd noticed, considering that it was on my watchlist.
I was wondering if you would either restore this article for me, or provide me with the text on my talk page so that I can recreate this article. All it needed was valid sources that show how notable this term is, not deletion. Flyer22 11:39, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Done - Hi there. I've userfied the article and you can now find it at User:Flyer22/Bennifer. I have to say, I'm slightly unhappy with this speedy deletion as it was deleted with the simple message; "CSD - Neologism", had not been templated by another editor (for that second opinion) and had quite an edit history with many editors contributing. Nor was the original author notified. Personally, I'd have sent it to AFD for the community to decide - Alison❤ 17:31, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your help on this matter, Alison. I will cite your comments shall a problem come up with my recreating this article after it's been speedy-deleted. I really appreciate your insight into this matter. Flyer22 19:27, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
External links to petition sites
I have a question, sorry if this is the wrong area, but i was wondering on the Xenosaga area, do we really need Petitions? you are an admin right, i mean Xenosaga as a series was discontinued after its 3rd game and the current storyline arc is basically done, i honestly don't think 2 petitions one with around 800 signitures, and the other with 1300 are going to make any kind of difference, as companys like Namco look more towards sales then anything else
So my point is, do petitions belong on wikipedia, i made an edit to remove but reverted incase i caused any drama, how does wikipedia stand on online petitions? everyone with a brain cell knows they generally don't work, and well Namco will never authorise another Xenosaga game anytime soon
feel free to delete this and comment on the ip address account this is posted from when you have the time, and once again sorry if this is the wrong area —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.128.1.61 (talk • contribs)
Hi there. In my opinion, yes - those links aren't appropriate on the Xenosaga article; they're not encyclopedic, they're pretty useless anyways and also, Wikipedia is not a collection of links. That's what the Open Directory Project is for. So yes, please do remove those links and thanks, too, for trying to minimize "drama" - that's always good :) - Alison❤ 17:22, 3 November 2007 (UTC) (copying to your talk page)
So do you :) - Alison❤ 17:36, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
I sure don't. :( --Kyoko 21:21, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said that. I know you're a busy person, and it was rude of me to try to rush you like that. --Kyoko 00:54, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Oh, it's alright! I'm really sorry for not writing sooner, and I've a lot more to write to you about than Hackney's one or two lines of a technical response (sorry, ONiH!). I'll sit down later tonight and write to you :) I'm just in the door from TJ's here - Alison❤ 00:57, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
You'll find one from me too. Lucky you! FlowerpotmaN·(t) 04:24, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
LOL…I should send you one just to send you one, and join the parade! :P — $PЯINGεrαgђ 04:25, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Answered! :) And feel free to write, Springeragh! - Alison❤ 06:25, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Green Kirby
Hello, I'm aware that you have blocked me for a week but you don't understand. Half the reasons you blocked me were because of the things my dad said. It's true, ask chaser. He has already agreed to stay out of my buiness, so it would really be nice if you could ublock me now, and make it to where I'm able to edit my talk page because this is'nt my fault, and it's kinda unfair.69.131.155.183 18:19, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Well, I've just blocked this IP address now for the duration of your week, for block evasion. I perfectly understand, and understand that you need to remain blocked for a number of days. What you did was completely out of line. Furthermore, it's unacceptable to have your account be used by multiple editors. You should really ask your father to get an account of his own. However, I've unprotected your talk page again. Abuse that again, as you have done, and I'll reprotect and extend your block - Alison❤ 18:24, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Not endorsing
I have no opinion on the block. His comments about me do not bother me particularly and by his own standards are pretty mild. Though, of course, It says something that we judge Vk by his own terrible standards rather than what everyone else adheres to. However, you say "I've been watching VK's edits since the ArbCom ended and he's been fine up 'till now." Do you really think his two reverts over the issue of an Irish/British flag, followed by immediate accusations and political rhetoric, is not in conflict with his probation? This is exactly the sort of process that was typical during the troubles over the Troubles and, I would have thought, exactly the sort of thing the remedy is meant to counter. What is the point of having an ArbCom remedy that specifically restricts editor to 1RR and civility standards, when we just going to overlook them? Rockpocket 23:51, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
The problem with the two reverts there was that he was not warned. When he was, he stopped. He genuinely unaware that he'd stepped over the mark into the areas of the ArbCom probation. Honestly, this was the first time the Arb provisions were invoked and he was caught out. You get to do that once (the plead ignorance bit) then no more. He's had his chance now - Alison❤ 23:55, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
I agree, which was why I warned him rather than blocking him. However, his umbrage at that warning (Get off my page, you have no right or reason be be here, you hate me, you are obsessed/bitter/twisted... etc) is not an acceptable reaction to an entirely justified warning. Whether a block will help him realise that is open for debate, but his edits, including and subsequent to his two reverts, most certainly haven't "fine" by my interpretation of ArbCom's remedies. That was what he was blocked for, not the "fine" edits prior to that. Rockpocket 00:04, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Moreover doing his best to "keep away from RP" is not a condition of ArbCom, and entirely irrelevant, especially when he he is content making these sorts of edits from the safety of his talk page. He has no need to keep away from me. If he would stop being disruptive, incivil and to stick to the terms of his probation, then I will stay away from him. Rockpocket 00:13, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
I know. I know. But the thing is, you both need to keep away from each other at this stage. There are admins crawling over his page right now - it's not like there's no coverage. Part of our job involves stepping back in cases where our involvement may inflame an already bad situation. He's asked you enough times to keep away. You should, in fairness, or people will start to think you have it in for him and are goading him into another indef. I'm sure that's not the case, but that's what the perception will be - Alison❤ 00:26, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
As I said at ANI, I'm more than happy to stay away, but not at the expense of his ongoing disruptive behaviour. His page is crawling with admins now, but no-one seemed to notice his repetition of the behaviour that his probation is meant to stop. He is smart enough to know that if he kicks up enough of a fuss in response to any admin action, he can move the focus away from why there needed to be action in the first place. The admin army responds to the fuss he kicks up, not the original problem. I fail to see any merit in the position that someone with his atrocious record gets to choose which admins can enforce an ArbCom decision. The "perception" is created by giving credence to what he would like people to believe. That said, you can be assured I most certainly will not be going anywhere near his page again. Future revert wars will be dealt with by blocks per the terms of ArbCom. Rockpocket 01:32, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Alison, I have made a point of not revealing personal information about myself on-wiki. I'm really uncomfortable with some anon debating my nationality on Vk's talk page. Considering the history of threats he has made, and the fact that he has admitted receiving private information about other editors (cf. Frank) off-wiki. I have so far avoided getting involved myself (for obvious reasons) but the anon has now reverted 4 times. If it remains there I am going to block him and revert again myself. Any chance you would be willing to get rid of it again, if only to avoid further inflaming Vk by me setting foot on his home soil? (by the way, I'm surprised you thought I was an American... not even close, and neither is our anon troublemaker!) Rockpocket 07:20, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you. Please keep an eye on our anon friend for me, as I may be largely absent for a few days, I have concerns we are going to be hearing more from him on this subject. Rockpocket 07:36, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
No problem. I'll keep a lookout. He won't be back for a while, I don't think. Sorry for getting involved, too. I know where our anon troublemaker is, don't worry - Alison❤ 07:43, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Can you do me a favour, as you're eight hours behind the UK? Can you keep an eye on L-Block? If it keeps its 6000-vote lead, mayhem will ensue soon. Will(talk) 00:58, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Okies - will do - Alison❤ 01:00, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
(ec) Thank'ee. God, ask Steel, he'll confirm LUE is already going crazy ;) Will(talk) 01:03, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Green Kirby
Thank you for being so patient, and for putting that protect on his talk. You could probably see that my, and others patitence was wearing thin. Merci vraiment administratrice de Madame; thank you very much. :) Atomic Religione 03:59, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Aucun problème du tout. Heureux d'aider :) I should have done it sooner - Alison❤ 04:33, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
oops! Sorry, too. It's getting vandalised way faster than it can be reverted. I've semi'd it and reported to WP:AN. It had to happen (and to think that I unprotected earlier!) - Alison❤ 04:23, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
I thought the reverters were doing rather well - looks like everything was being fixed within seconds... WjBscribe 04:25, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
People were falling over each other. Not only that, but the amount of sleeper accounts that are getting flushed out now is a little ... staggering. Feel free to change it, though, if you see fit - Alison❤ 04:26, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Not at all - I recognise that I'm way more stingy about protection than most of my colleagues here. No intention of interfering, though I do think we should give unprotection another go in a few hours when a different set of users will hopefully be online. WjBscribe 04:30, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Heh, well you know my reputation too on WP:RPP, and the battles from earlier this year. Yeah, drop it back in a few hours, by all means. I really hate prot'ing like that but it's just nutz right now. DrKiernan would doubtlessly approve :) - Alison❤ 04:32, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
I've fully protected the user's talk page for two days to prevent the user from repeatedly replacing the talk page with the b.s. from the L-block articles that keep getting created. Feel free to adjust as you see fit. -- Flyguy649talk 06:26, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, Flyguy :) - Alison❤ 06:27, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Ugh! Well spotted, Hack. Deskana deleted the info and blocked the account. As for what happened next?? Wow! Good riddance, Roman. Blocked indef by Krimpet for soliciting a minor. What a creep :( - Alison❤ 19:54, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Editor doesn't appear to understand the concept of unblock template, but is asking for a block reduction. I've already opined "no", but you may want to comment.--Isotope23talk 16:30, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
I asked one of my Jewish admin friends to translate what he said. Not nice at all. Indef'd - Alison❤ 19:51, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Request for unprotection
Could I ask that you unprotect Drake Circus, please? I've just posted the reasons in that article's AfD. Thanks for considering --Smalljim 22:44, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Unprotected - ok, I see where you're coming from there. Best of luck - Alison❤ 23:38, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, Alison. I'll keep an eye open, after a night's shuteye. --Smalljim 23:58, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks...
...for your help with that little matter earlier tonight. Slán, 07:53, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
RfA
Hi, after my disastrous one, I think that soon i may be ready to try again, but i wanted to get an experienced admin (as well as one that i feel that i can trust :) ) to review me and see if i can possibly get a pass. (Yes, I have tried an Editor Review, but nothing happened!) El-Nin09 22:01, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Sorry if you think i am being rude, but i just wanted to remind you of this message!. El-Nin09 19:04, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Oops! I'm sorry... I'll get back to you later on today. Promise :) - Alison❤ 19:08, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Thanks soooooo much. El-Nin09 16:00, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Ping RMS
I blocked three of your accounts tonight. Sorry about that, old chap! Email me, please. There's something I'd like to discuss - Alison❤ 06:24, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
A chara - I got your message. I never wanted or expected you not to do your job, although I appreciate the consideration you've shown. I probably should take a Wikibreak in light of these developments, no?. Btw: I only counted two - User:24.16.156.202 wasn't one of mine. (User:Lord Love a Duck was a sacrifice on my part to test the waters, maybe a tactical error, maybe not). I got your priors re contacting you, sorry for the delay, but I don't know what Pmail is and to email you would be problematic. Let me just say that I think I know what you are trying to reach me about but I don't know if it'll work. I am not going to endure a cyber-inquisition and I don't want to make apologies I don't mean or promises I may not be able to keep, or let you down, so ... Maybe I've been out in the cold for too long. There's no Peace and Reconciliation Forum for Wikiaddicts who fell from the straight and narrow. Maybe someday. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.194.2.117 (talk) 11:59, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
BTW: ([3]) & ([4]) appear to be mutually contradictory. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.194.2.117 (talk) 12:10, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Vintagekits
Hi, Alison. We did communicate a few months ago when I was in difficulty about "Plastic Paddies". I was fairly new here then, and had not realised what a sensitive subject it was. Anyhow, I now seem to have establised a rapport with one of my former critics, Irishguy, and he recommended that I ask your help with regard to Vintagekits, who has returned from being blocked. Whereas I'm a fairly middle of the road, Fine Gael type, he obviously has strong views somewhat different to mine. I am sometimes unable to understand quite what he is saying, but he seems to find some of my comments uncomfortable and these lead to accusations of "trolling" and "spamming". Two recent examples concern the entries on Carrickfergus and West Briton.
I'm ignoring his last two messages, but I'd be grateful for any advice you can give me.
Hi Alison - I saw the message 3bulletproof16 added above and figured I'd leave a note here since the user in question, Bgtd, is back to work restoring and edit warring with various unsourced and/or pov-type edits on the following articles: Harrah's Entertainment and Caesars Palace. Could you look into it at your convenience? Thanks much. --SesameballTalk 01:55, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you.
Thank you, Alison, for blocking Rbkl. To be honest, I did not even read his hysterical message in its entirety. I saw who it was from, saw that it made little sense, and I got rid of it. How could I have missed the fact that he threatened me? Well, as I said to Hack, I shan't miss the fellow one bit. Thanks again. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 01:09, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, he was not here to build an encyclopedia. However, I also missed the legal threat until ONiH pointed it out, so you can thank him :) - Alison❤ 01:12, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
I know personally that you participate in WP:RPP every day, so I am wanting to ask you personally to go over Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection#I_Love_New_York_2's Declin...ation(?). There were numerous IP edits on November 4, and a lot of them were vandalism. This article is often targeted, along with Flavor Of Love, Charm School (The VH1 Show, I can't remember the exact link), and Rock of Love, when each of these respected shows/seasons are airing. Trevor"Tinkleheimer"Haworth 21:22, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Your friend!
That [5] is a little late in the day. Remember [6]. Giano 21:41, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I remember that. Weirded me out at the time, but there was little to delete over at the time that I could see (possibly my naïveté at work there) - Alison❤ 21:48, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
And ugh - what's this?? [7]. Blocked again[8] and prot'ing the page. This guy is going to be trouble - Alison❤ 21:50, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
I Semi'd the user's page, Ali. SirFozzie 21:55, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes, you even voted to keep it [9]. Giano 22:00, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I did. Mind you, I've not even seen your rationale until now and given this guy's subsequent behaviour ... well. Anyways - where are you going with this conversation? - Alison❤ 22:03, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
No where, no where at all! Just very dissapointed that such a thing can happen here. You just did not want to know. Giano 22:06, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Not really, but there ya go. Hindsight is 20:20 and all that. Your opinion and welcome to it - Alison❤ 22:12, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Mail call
You have mail; actually you have a few. Nowt pressing, but I am proud of the little bon mot/meta-comment in the last one. Oscar-like, it is..... FlowerpotmaN·(t) 00:33, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
As yes, I know him well :) Will answer later - mad backlog here - Alison❤ 00:47, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, one of them. But in a completely off-topic note, one strange side-effect of pulling an all-nighter doing stuff I wanted to get done over the weekend was that I saw Sesame Street as Gaeilge in the morning. Very strange. Ernie agus Bert were there, but Kermit was Kermit an Frog. FlowerpotmaN·(t) 00:59, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Ernie agus Bert?? What is the world coming to? I suppose they had Éan Mór too, yes? Oh, the horror!! :) - Alison❤ 06:21, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
One last PS en route in a minute, but still not urgent and I am opening a big can of "Don't give a monkey's" that will last me till the weekend. But on more important issues, actually it seemed to be a selection of Sesame Street clips rather than the real thing (and I really miss that :O( ) and they didn't try to Gaelicise the names. AND they got the voices right. They have Spongebob in the first official on TG4, as well. FlowerpotmaN·(t) 23:36, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
If you have a moment, can you take a look at this article? A troublesome editor, Gee Emm Christlur, moved the article from Spring Holiday without discussion. Indeed, even worse, he moved the article after a long discussion about a possible page move, a discussion in which he did not take part, which discussion ended with the decision to leave the article where it was. This page move is part of a campaign on this user's part to revert what he sees as "anti-Christian" bias on Wikipedia. Whatever I think of his other edits, this page move seems highly improper. If you could give me your opinion, I would appreciate it greatly. Thank you, as always, for your time and attention. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 02:29, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Ok - I've moved it back but only due to previous consensus and hard work on the part of other editors. That, IMO, far outweighs WP:BOLD here. Note also that the first paragraph is now inconsistent and is now rather POV-laden due to the same editor's unilateral changes. You guys need to sit down and work through this, bring that editor along too and work out something that will work for all. He has a very valid set of points to make and should not be discounted due to his bulldozer approach here. I've commented on the talk page saying pretty-much this - Alison❤ 06:20, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
I appreciate your comments. Just so there is no misunderstanding, let me be clear that I had no involvement with this article before yesterday. I came upon it, honestly, because I was looking at Gee Emm Christlur's edits to see if he is consistently beligerent and unilateral in his edits. Unfortunately, I found that he is. I will do my best to try to work something out, if "Christlur" is amenable to it. Again, I appreciate what you've said here, and I thank you for your time. Cheers! ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 14:42, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your support.
To the one person who I thought, 'hmm, I wonder if it's ok if I put this note on her page...' :-)
Remember, remember, the fifth of November? Thank you to everyone who participated in my Request for adminship, which was successful at 50/5/0 on November 5th, 2007. It became, as you may know, rather contentious toward the end (though fortunately no gunpowder was involved), and I appreciate the work of other Wikipedians to keep it focused. --Thespian 03:10, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Hiya - you kindly semi-protected my userpage a few days ago after a fair amount of IP vandalism. I think the storm has passed now, so as per WP:RPP, I thought I'd drop you a line (as the protecting admin) to ask if you could remove the protection when you get a minute? No mad panic (the vandals are just resorting to hitting my talk page instead) ;-).
Unprotected - best of luck :) - Alison❤ 18:10, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Many thanks. Care to bet how long it lasts? ;-) Giles Bennett(Talk, Contribs) 19:09, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Probably hit already, I suspect. You do know that it stay indef per the rules. Either way, if things get too much, just let me know and back on it goes - Alison❤ 19:10, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
True, but I have this feeling there's something un-wiki about protecting it for longer than needs be! It's taken a whole 4 minutes for my talk page to be hit, though, although I see you've banned the IP concerned. Many thanks. Giles Bennett(Talk, Contribs) 19:22, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Waterboarding
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate you slamming down the row on waterboarding the other day, and keeping an eye on it. 89.100.48.103 17:53, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
No problem. I'm just trying to prevent mayhem there again as the situation is very delicate right now. I do appreciate you backing down, too, and I know that you are making your changes there in 100% good faith - Alison❤ 18:08, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Good call. It's just turning into another mud-slinging exercise. I've archived it now - Alison❤ 18:07, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
BTW - I'd like to continue the mentoring discussion somewhere else, though, if that's okay with you? I think it's in everyone's interests if there's someone else there mediating - Alison❤ 18:09, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Unarchived again by User:John. Sorry - Alison❤ 18:15, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Alyson, firstly find out of VK is agreable to the idea, then find out if anyone is prepared to do it. He certainly in my view needs some help. I'm not liking what I'm seeing at the moment. Were I an admin I would offer myself, but I'm not and I also have something else demanding my time at the moment. It needs a very superior and tough admin, with not one drop of Irish blood, who is not afraid to admonish both sides when necessary. Giano 18:21, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, Giano. Even if you were an admin (like it matters), I think you're a bit too involved here! But yeah, whoever takes on this job had better have nerves of steel. I've posted a message on VK's talk and put it to him, so that's a first step anyway. If he's in agreement, I'll see if I can find someone suitable - Alison❤ 18:32, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
His agreement I suspect is dependent on who decides to leap in with unsolicted advice in the meantime. Giano 18:54, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you and a note
Thanks for the revert, dear. That editor is a sock of User:Ln of x, long, long history (ask Queen or Philip or Isotope23 for the history, but their unblock request says it all, a fixation with Abi Branning (Lorna Fitzgerald)), so you may want to tag the talk page with the sock tag and protect it if need be. Ariel♥Gold 18:07, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Talk page now protected. Ewww - what a creepy guy - Alison❤ 18:30, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Long time issue. New socks pop up every few days, DFTT is the best way to handle them, per Isotope and Queen's experience. Revert, block, sock tag. Thanks so much for the speedy action, as always, you rock! Ariel♥Gold 18:33, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for catching that. Obviously a sock of Melefire (talk·contribs). Can we even get the account deleted? I REALLY hate the notion of that name floating around... Thanks again! - CobaltBlueTony 18:49, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
I renamed the account. --Deskana(talk) 18:51, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
I was going to say that you need a 'crat to do that. Deskana to the rescue :) Thanks!! - Alison❤ 18:52, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Unbelievable
I need competent bisexual support here
What a cad, and long after you removed that startling userbox. Truly the age of chivalry is dead. Well we can't all be Sean MacEoins, can we??!!
How're you doin', luv??!! If you want to email me my email address is rms125a@hotmail.com. After I get yoru email, I will go back to exclusive filter, so anyone who is reading this, fuggetabout it.The Glorious Revolution lives on 19:54, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Done - emailed ya. Feel free to respond to that address. It's my non-wiki one. Blocking this account now, sorry! - Alison❤ 20:06, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Oh, and for others reading, "that startling userbox" was the LGBT one :) - Alison❤ 20:09, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Cant we just not contact his ISP and have him blocked indefintely please. --BarryobVigeur de dessus 20:14, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
(ec) Not when he's using half the IP range for New York city, and just about every Kinko's there is, no - Alison❤ 20:21, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
One hopes you removed the box as part of a general userpage redesign and not because you've joined Exodus International or something. ;) Pinball22 20:19, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
LOL!! Not quite :) I took off all my userboxes during a redesign and some time later, Category:Bisexual Wikipedians was AfD'd. I've not signed up with NARTH quite yet :D - Alison❤ 20:21, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
That's good. I'd hate to think you'd gone over to the dark side. ;) Pinball22 20:29, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Ah well lets hope he gives up one day, and as for NARTH thank god I dont think that the way to go :) --BarryobVigeur de dessus 20:32, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Vintagekits again
I'm afraid that problems continue. Can you help in any way, please? Millbanks 10:22, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your comment on the Carrickfergus discussion entry, Alison, and thanks to whoever it was who "devandalised" my talk page. Millbanks 19:14, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Transgender
Hello, I don't believe we've met. Nice to meet you. Anyway, in my search for LGBT-related articles to upload to Vero I stumbled upon Transgender. It's been fixed up a little so it passes the parser but I would benefit from a second opinion on the content/subject matter since I know precious little about it. Thanks! – Steel 02:07, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Shame on you! You almost missed the party! Just kidding. Thanks so much. Pigmanwhat?/trail 05:12, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Wallowing in my RfA: This time it's personal...
My sincere thanks for your support in my request for adminship, which ended with 51 supports, 0 opposes, and 0 neutral. Doubtless it was an error to put one of the government-bred race of pigmen in any position of authority, but I hope your confidence in me proves justified. Even a man pure of heart and who says his prayers at night can become a were-boar when the moon is full and sweet. Fortunately, I'm neither a were-pig nor pure of heart so this doesn't appear to be an imminent danger to Wikipedia for the moment. Fortunate as well because were-pig hooves are hell on keyboards and none too dexterous with computer mice. If ever I should offend, act uncivil, misstep, overstep, annoy, violate policy, or attempt to topple the fascist leadership of Wikipedia, please let me know so I can improve my behaviour and/or my aim. I am not an animal; I am an admin. And, of course, if there is any way in which I can help you on Wikipedia, please do not hesitate to ask me. Despite my japes, I am indeed dedicated to protecting and serving Wikipedia to the best of my foppish and impudent abilities. I will strive to be an admirable admin, shiny and cool, reasonable and beatific. Pigmanwhat?/trail 05:12, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Post Scriptum: I believe my collaged graphic at left, which incorporates the WP globe and mop image, falls under the rubric of parody for my purposes here. Or is it satire? Regardless, it's a legitimate and legally protected First Amendment usage under US law. Complaints and allegations that this is an improper "fair use" image will be entertained on my talk page, probably with fruit juice, finger food and exotic coffees.
Kansai Goma
Looks like I was on the right track, you just beat me to it. –– Lid(Talk) 06:48, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Yeah. Pretty obvious one that. Was going to get indef'd anyway over the "I hope you die of AIDS" comment. Urgh! - Alison❤ 21:59, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Waterboarding - progress
This waterboarding business is going nowhere, so I have started a new talk area to try and mechanically / methodically deal with it. It's working with THIS or doing THIS... Inertia Tensor 09:21, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Protection for Android and OHA?
Hello Alison. You've helped in the past when certain article were being vandalized by applying temporary semi-protection against anonymous users. I'm wondering if you could do the same thing with the Android (mobile phone platform) and Open Handset Alliance articles. Due to them dealing with current news events, they've been more susceptible to vandalism the last couple of days. Your help is greatly appreciated! Roguegeek (talk) 21:12, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Declined – Not enough recent disruptive activity to justify protection. - Hi there. I'm really sorry, but there's really not enough activity right now to justify locking out a large section of the editing community. I note that some of the anon editors are making lasting, constructive editors and most of the rest are making good-faith but misguided edits - Alison❤ 21:44, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
No worries. That just means the editors will need to be more vigilant for the time being with any non-constructive edits. I appreciate your time! Roguegeek (talk) 21:55, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
You have mail
Like it says, quite important. Thankies :) One Night In Hackney303 22:10, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
If it's about the same thing he emailed me about, I agree with him. SirFozzie 23:55, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
I agree too, Foz. Working on it ... - Alison❤ 00:25, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
You might want to check your email ASAP. One Night In Hackney303 01:08, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Green Kirby
Well, I'm back. What you did was quite unnecisary, as I could've handled the situation myself. "I should've done that sooner." was a very rude comment. I was already done after what A.R. said, which is why I did'nt responded. But no, you just had to protect my talk page. I left a few meassages on your irish language talk page requesting to be unprotected. Some time between my block, my dad managed to create his own account on another computer. So while he roamed freely as a user, I was still suffering my punishment. Well the point is, I survived. My dad's user name is Fred Cred, or something like that. He says he wishes to bring peace and censorship to wikipedia. How amusing. Mabey you should talk to him, or block him for a week to make him go through what I had to go through.Green Kirby 23:54, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
What I did was perfectly necessary, to be quite honest. Even after you were blocked, you went off hassling me across various wikis. The point here is not that you survived, but that you have hopefully learnt a lesson from this. If not, you'll just end up getting blocked again. Futhermore, I trusted you and unprotected your talk page after you abused the unblock process, only to find you doing it again. What else did you expect here? Cause and effect. It's nothing personal here, but I do need to ensure that your account do not disrupt the wiki or is used to harass other editors with homophobic claptrap. Please - learn your lesson, get back to editing and move on. Oh, and next time you see your dad, point him to our policy re. censorship - Alison❤ 00:44, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Please don't
Please don't block user DarkFierceDeityLink only b/c I was the one who started with him at 1st.--FrosticeBlade 01:07, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
He's on his last warning. Abusive language like that is not on, regardless of who-started-what. I strongly suggest you both keep clear of each other for the time being - Alison❤ 01:09, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey Alison
That friend of Froticeblade has left yet another rude comment on my talk page. Block him already.Green Kirby 03:42, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
just block
just block me I know for a fact that it would make green Kirby, and Coreycubed and to also prove to stupid users that I'm not frosticeblade. just please do it I'm already hurt that every one is hates me I have done some good things here like undo things that idiots do and you can check super smash brother brawl for the proof.--DarkFierceDeityLink 04:04, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
I've seen some of your edits and yes, they look fine. Seriously - I'm not going to block you here unless I really, really have to. I don't like doing that. Just ignore the others and get back to editing. You'll be fine - Alison❤ 04:20, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
No, don't block him. I give up. I'm obviously doing this because I feel I was'nt given as many chances as he did. I'm sorry for my selfishness.Green Kirby 04:17, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes, you are. Just go edit some articles now that you're unblocked and things will be okay. Forget about the whole blocking thing - Alison❤ 04:20, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
No please do it I really want to show user Coreycubed that I'm frosticeblade, if you look at his edits he is the main reason why I'm like this by saying "he's frosticebalde heads people he up to no good."so please block me I'll take 1 year even 2 years.--DarkFierceDeityLink 04:26, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
please just do it, I don't want to say anything bad to a young lady I want to prove something and not start something. I don't really care that he did, the one person who I do want one from who always says I always do seclation is from user Coreycubed.--DarkFierceDeityLink 04:34, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Don't be stupid. I don't believe your frosticeblade. No offense, but I can tell because your spelling is worst than his. Your just big friends. And who cares what Coreycubed thinks. He can't block you.Green Kirby 04:37, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Kirby, you've made a grand total of one article edit - this one - since you were unblocked, yet you've made boatloads of talk page edits. Are you here to build an encyclopedia or are you here to create drama on other editors' talk pages? - Alison❤ 04:44, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Why is Allison always invlolved in blocks of people I sorta know?!?!?!Trevor"Tinkleheimer"Haworth 04:46, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Admirable
Having followed the recent drama involving Green Kirby, Darkicefrostblade, and the others, I have to say that I think you have handled the situation(s) admirably. Keep up the good work, Allison!
The Original Barnstar
For never losing patience and keeping a cool head, even in extremely trying situations. MelicansMatkin 05:02, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
The Tinkle Barnstar
This barnstar is awarded to this person because Tinkleheimer thinks that this person is doing an awesome job and has been through a lot and has done good to Wikipedia. And this person probably also has an awesome attitude (not like cool awesome, but like unique don't mess with me awesome). Trevor"Tinkleheimer"Haworth 05:20, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
I made a barnstar and you are the first recepient. I am grouping with MelicansMatkin's, because I am with him on giving it to you. Trevor"Tinkleheimer"Haworth 05:23, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Oooh, thank you both! I especially like your barnstar, Tinks :) I'm honoured! - Alison❤ 06:09, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey
Hey look Alison, I was trying to help him, but I got my past in the the way, which made me angry. How come he gets a crapload of warnings and when he dose get blocked, it's only for 3 hours. Do you like not like me or spmething? Because it shure sounds like it.Green Kirby 05:18, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Kirby, I don't dislike you. Take a hint from your block log, when Chaser indefblocked your account a few weeks back; "low level of contributions to articles don't justify all the drama; see user talk page". Since your unblock, you have made one article edit and dozens[11] of talkpage edits. Take the hint; forget your block and get back to editing. You're being seriously disruptive now, and you've had multiple chances. Next block will most likely be indefinite and it probably will not come from me either. Now please - you've been unblocked - take the chance and get back to editing - Alison❤ 05:22, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks...
Just goes to show how much attention I'm paying. I've been busy and inattentive. But thank you. I think the position you put it works as well as where I put it. I'll default to yours. Cheers, Pigmanwhat?/trail 07:39, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Glad to help out :) - Alison❤ 07:39, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Green Kirby
I don't know, I'm more of a guy who wants to help users than make edits. That week was extremly hard, and you could'nt have expected me to easily forget it, but you're right, it's over. I don't know how many more blocks I can go through before I just give up. My edits usualy are'nt usualy that good. If you would notice, the edit I made yesterday got deleted. I have made very few useful edits. But I'll see if I can do better.Green Kirby 13:27, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Irish names in biography articles
Hi, I've just realised that you have contributed Irish "translations" for names in biography articles. A few days ago I stared a discussion on the provision of Irish names in biography articles on the new Wikipedia:WikiProject Ireland/Gaeilge project page. The consensus there is that it is wrong to conjure up Irish names for people contrary to the Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Ireland-related articles), there is very little evidence that these names have been used by the people they are attributed to. is As you've been involved in this, I would appreciate your views on the matter. For example, "Seán Óg O Maoláin" (Jackie McMullan) brings up nothing in a Google search.[12]
This is not at all surprising considering that you came up with the "name". I'm sure you'd agree that names are facts, and as such, cannot be translated as if they were a piece of prose. Unless we know that a subject used/uses an Irish name and what form this takes, this encyclopaedia should make no reference to it as it may help spread misleading, indeed false, information.--Damac 22:36, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi Alison, I hope you're doing well. I've been offline for the past few days because of fever and chills which are thankfully subsiding. I have a question: how do you find out when you get your IRC cloak or whatever you call it? Love, Kyoko 23:33, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi Kyoko - just sign onto irc and your cloak will go on, then you should see a message in the logs which says that a server has set your username to Kyoko@wikipedia/Kyoko or somesuch. You can also use the info command to get info about yourself. If you want somewhere private to go, just go to my channel ;) - Alison❤ 00:30, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
my edits
Sinse yesterday, I have made a total of 4 edits. However, 3 of them have been deleted. I don't understand why my 3rd edit got deleted. I simply described the deaths in the battle of hogwarts even further. Just thought I'd let you know that I'm trying to make useful edits.Green Kirby 00:22, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Kirby, it takes a bit of practice but you're getting there! You're doing okay :) - Alison❤ 00:30, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
6 edits. So far, 3 of them are still there.Green Kirby 00:50, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
It isn't often something on Wikipedia makes you laugh out loud. This did. Rockpocket 01:05, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
lol!!! Watchit, Rockpocket, or you'll feel my big hammy admin-fists, undeserved that they are!! :) They're just not making trolls like they used to, are they? - Alison❤ 01:32, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Err, Alison has added an opinion there, moreover that unblock was simply undoing her own accidental block. Rockpocket 01:29, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Correct, Rockpocket :) Coincidentally, I blocked him in error yesterday and immediately unblocked. I've no opinion really as to whether he should be blocked or not now, given he's just been busted for socking again - Alison❤ 01:31, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
This guy has been saying some really nasty stuff on my talk page. Don't block him, just try to talk some sinse into him. He says that he hopes Corbeycubed burns in Hell, and I don't know why he's mad at me.Green Kirby 03:51, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Sense of humour
At least one person noticed, I was thinking that "thirty people and I've had notes on everything but the fact I laugh in the face of danger, and anything else". –– Lid(Talk) 06:50, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you
Click there to open your card! → → →
Dearest Alison,
Thank you for your participation in my RFA, which closed successfully with 137 supports, 22 opposes, and 5 neutrals. Your kind words of support are very much appreciated and I look forward to proving you right. I would like to give special thanks to The_undertow and Phoenix-wiki for their co-nominations. Thank you again and best regards.
Blocked now. What was that all about???? [14] - Alison❤ 20:55, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Seems the guy installed Twinkle, which helped him go on the rampage :( - Alison❤ 20:57, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. He's a sock of User:Daddy_Kindsoul who keeps coming back every once in a while and re-reverting to his version, which he can't do 'cause he's a sock. And this is the first time he's used twinkle, which is a pity... he was slower before, and now he'll be fast. Could I have some help reverting, please? Otherwise it'll take me a while... Gscshoyru 21:00, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
And he's back again -- [15]... \and he just hit your page. Drat. Gscshoyru 21:03, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Done - All cleared, blocked and reverted. Thank goodness for Admin Rollback :) - Alison❤ 21:08, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Ne one -- see [16]Gscshoyru 21:10, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
And another [17]Gscshoyru 21:12, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Dealt with yesterday - Alison❤ 20:10, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
SSP
Hi Alison. I'm going through the George Galloway article looking for socks (it's a sock magnet!) in support of this SSP report. Anyway, I found some info and thought that you might like to read this. Also, I sent an email to FedEx to see if they could help per the post on this talk page. -- Jreferee t/c 16:13, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
I think the editor who posted this might be a sock of Rms125a.40hotmail.com since it is similar in language to this. -- Jreferee t/c 16:59, 10 November 2007 (UTC) This poster, too. -- Jreferee t/c 17:05, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
What is the real difference between Wikipedia and Veropedia? I may want an account, if it is to develop a good online encyclopedia without vandalism. Dreamy§ 00:55, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
From what I understand, Veropedia takes the best versions of featured articles and saves them on Veropedia pages. Nobody will be able to edit/vandalize any of the pages. But this is my understanding of it, and it may be wrong. Trevor"Tinkleheimer"Haworth 01:14, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes, that's exactly right. We correct and tidy good articles on Wikipedia, find sources, fix formatting issues, expand and reword. Once that articles are up to standard, they are uploaded to Veropedia where they cannot be edited by anyone, vandals included. It's a very rewarding exercise :) As part of the upload process, the articles are vetted by the "parser", which pick out and reports dead links, broken references, etc. Once the parser accepts the article as clean, it goes live on Veropedia. Anyone like an account? - Alison❤ 20:15, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
I would indeed like an account on Veropedia please. Dreamy§ 23:01, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
How will I know when I am/am not approved? Dreamy§ 23:47, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
I might take an account. What am I able to do with my account?Trevor"Tinkleheimer"Haworth 01:09, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi there! Can both of you either email me with your username of choice, real name (doesn't have to be) and email address, or catch me on #Alison on irc, and I can talk you through the process here :) - Alison❤ 01:18, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
re:my rfa
Were you speaking to me or K.scottbailey in reference to "calling you a dick"? If the former, where did I expressly call you that name? Thanks, VanTuckyTalk 02:33, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
K.scottbailey made the oblique 'dick' comment, not you. Sorry if that wasn't clear. However, both of you are badmouthing RfA opposes on your respective talk pages (specifically Giano). I'd try not to do that, to be honest - Alison❤ 02:39, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Truce?
I apologize to you for accusing you of stalking me. I get very, umm, vigorous in my defense at RfA of those editors whom I judge as fine contributors, and I am building up a rather healthy disdain for the process they are forced to undergo. None of this excuses me for accusing you of stalking, and for that I apologize. I do not (and will never) agree with your reasoning on your oppose, or your judgment of VT's wikicharacter as intransigent. But that does not mean that we have to be at loggerheads, or have ill-will at all times between us. Truce? K. Scott Bailey 02:48, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes, truce indeed, so. You do know what went wrong, yes? In your zeal, you nearly nuked VanTucky's RfA single-handedly. If someone wants to voice a negative opinion, it's best to just let them. Challenging them (esp. in the manner in which you did) will 1) prove their point for them, 2) get them all defensive and produce yet more diffs/evidence/comments, 3) reflect extremely poorly on the candidate. This was never my intent but was pretty-much what happened here. I never went down the road of personal attacks and accusations of lying; that was both of you guys. Then you took the fight to others' talk pages and started bad-mouthing Giano and others. My final comment was for VanTucky, and was my attempt to distance him from your abyssmal behaviour over there, in deference to him. Not good, sir - Alison❤ 20:02, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
You say "yes", and then proceed to lecture me? No thanks. Is this how you always respond to an olive branch after a contentious discussion? I'll simply take a "stay away from me and I'll stay away from you" approach (as much as possible anyway) to your contributions from this point forward. K. Scott Bailey 20:29, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Good enough for me. Your personal attack on VanTucky's RfA remains un-apologized for and I see you've now taken to berating User:Eliz81 for daring to disagree with your opinion. Nothing learnt whatsoever here. Goodbye - Alison❤ 20:35, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
"Disagreeing with" does not equal "berating." I made my apologies, have you made yours? And I'll thank you to not follow me around. If you wish to comment about me or my contribs, please direct those comments to my talk page, and I will do you the same courtesy. Thanks, K. Scott Bailey 20:50, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Eliz is a good friend of mine. I've watchlisted her talk page long ago. Go ask her. Ugh - give up already with this stalking nonsense. Now, go away please - Alison❤ 20:53, 11 November 2007 (UTC) (and I know what "berating" means, thanks)
Just a courtesy note to inform you that I've pasted this conversation onto my talkpage, including my last comment which you deleted for some reason.K. Scott Bailey 21:20, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Alison, now he is canvassing me to change my mind on this Rfa. Please wave your magic wand and make him stop. Jeffpw 21:47, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Ugh! Nothing I can do, I'm afraid. I've done enough trying to get through to him. He'll do what he'll do :( - Alison❤ 22:05, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Mail
Could you check you inbox, there is something waiting for you! Rockpocket 02:56, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Got that. Replied now & problem solved ;) - Alison❤ 19:49, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm guessing your warning to this IP also means you declined to block. I wanted to bring this prior comment to your attention (assuming you haven't seen it yet). It seems the IP has been harshly insulting towards GK before, and appears to be static. Do you have any thoughts on this?--chaser - t 05:11, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, Chaser. I've found an earlier snarky comment from today. He on his final warn now. Thanks for that ;) - Alison❤ 05:45, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi there. From your prot comments, I think you may have meant to reduce this to semi but it's still fully-protected. Just so's you know ;) - Alison❤ 09:41, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Heh, no I just forgot the word "length". What I meant was "reducing protection length since it's no longer semi" :) KnowledgeOfSelf | talk 09:46, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Ah, ok. Cool beans :) - Alison❤ 09:58, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey, Peeps, it's that time of the month again (no not that time — get your mind out of the gutter): time for another monthly edition of the LGBT Project'sLove Boat newsletter from your cruise directorMiss Julie. So much has been happening this month and I just can't wait to tell you all about it!!!
Alice and her harasser
Let's start with some good news: Alice and the project lost the bothersome sock puppet who had been disrupting many articles we monitor, and now most of us can edit in relative peace. Congratulations, Alice, for being able to come out of semi-retirement. Benjiboi, on the other hand, has gained an anonymous IP stalker who seems to be more Catholic than the Pope and who has a hard-on for the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. We seem to have a sort of Yin and Yang thing going on here, which helps both to keep us in balance and on our toes <bright smiles all around>.
Harry Potter and his homosexual teacher
Albus Dumbledore got outed this month, and was immediately adopted by our project. The international brouhaha surrounding this disclosure reached all the way to Wikiland, and his article was briefly locked due to homophobic vandalism (as well as well meaning editors who just couldn't believe that that nice man could possibly be gay). This is a wonderful article to add to your watchlist, and will surely give you hours of reverting fun on cold winter days.
"My Fellow Americans"
On a more serious note, Fireplace has suggested a new article series about LGBT rights in the United States, state by state. This ambitious topic will surely require many editors and a lot of research, but has the potential to add further prestige to our already prestigious project.
Same name, same sexuality: a riddle for the ages
Francis Bacon (not the new gay one, but the old gay one ... though they're actually both dead, now that I think about it) has also aroused passions here on Wikipedia, with editors opposing his sexuality being disclosed in his biography. The always helpful Haiduc has thoughtfully provided any number of sources, but it is slow going getting his point across. Anyone want to lend a hand?
Beat writer arouses Irish guy
And speaking of passions, Jack Kerouac has inflamed the senses once again with editors, including administrator Irishguy, mounting a spirited defense to keep him as heterosexual as possible for Wikipedia purposes. Why? I don't know. Perhaps some of you can drop by the talk page and ask your questions there. I feel certain a stimulating debate will ensue that will be enjoyed by all.
Love those Texas Longhorns
Did you know that one of our Featured articles, Lawrence v. Texas, lost its shiny gold star? That was a shocker. It has been suggested that we turn our attention to it in an effort to restore it to its former glory. I took a peek, and it does need our help badly. For our American editors, it would seem almost a civic duty to edit it (not that I'm hinting....).
Point and Counterpoint
Though it was far too intellectual a debate for a mere cruise director like myself to take part in, Intersexuality was certainly a hot topic a week or two ago. The thrust of the debate was over inclusion in our project. Lots of good editors had lots of good opinions. For those too lazy to check out the discussion, we decided to leave it out for now.
Drudgery on offer
Peer review is, as always, short staffed and seemingly unloved. Wouldn't you feel better about yourself and the world in general if you took a few minutes to read one of the listed articles and offer some helpful advice? I know I'd feel better if you did.
"My Fellow Americans" redux
The article LGBT movements in the United States certainly raised eyebrows last week, especially when it was discovered that copyrighted content had been added to our article. Tragedy was averted at the last minute, though, when the original hosts of the article where the material had been pilfered agreed to make it free to everyone. Our thanks to them, whoever they are. Busy Bee that I am, I haven't had time to read it, but I'm sure it's sensational.
Not content to run for Best Actress, plucky Bannon won a Best supporting actress Oscar... whoops, I meant to say Ann is also getting more than her share of womanly attention on the Good Article list. Joining her on this exalted plane are Freddy Mercury, Waylon Smithers and Lance Bass. Good articles indeed, and the last one mentioned just goes to show that one needn't admire the subject of an article to appreciate the effort put into making him worthwhile reading. What on earth Britney ever saw in him I'll never know. Truly a riddle cloaked in an enigma and wrapped around a puzzle.
On a personal note, your already overworked cruise director is being cyberly whipped almost daily by Nemissimo, who desperately wants to get the German BDSM translation copy edited and used as a replacement for the current one. It's such a ... err, stimulating topic that I am sure many of you will want to join the copy editing fun. Jump right in, folks! It's so lonely copy editing it all by my lonesome!
Late breaking news
A little birdie just whispered in my ear that our noble collaboration project was delisted from the Community Portal due to inactivity. When asked how this scandalous turn of events could have occurred, the answer I received was "we suck at stuff like that". Well. In the first place, I disagree that sucking should be considered a negative, but to each his or her own. In the second place, I have full confidence that we can and will collaborate with other projects in the future. So let's not view this as a setback (even though it is), but rather a challenge to improve (and good Lord, I sound almost Wikipedian!).
Champagne dreams and caviar kisses
Lastly, the holidays are rapidly approaching. Our American cousins are currently getting ready to slaughter masses of poultry in an effort to show their gratitude and generally peaceful demeanor, and those of the Canadian persuasion, trendsetters that they are, celebrated a bit early this year. I'm sure all us foreigners will join together in wishing them all a very happy Thanksgiving on their respective holidays, both already celebrated and forthcoming... though I would hope somebody would enlighten me as to why they don't celebrate it on the same day. I was awake all last night trying to figure that one out.
In the spirit of this peculiarly North American holiday, let me take a moment to thank all of our editors for their contributions to this project. It's people like you who make people like me...well, a "people person"! May all your Wiki days be bright, and may your Love Boat never turn into a Poseidon.
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Delivered on 12:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC).
mail
Hi Alison, I've just sent you mail. Hope you're doing well! :) --Kyoko 01:47, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Vintagekits again
Sorry to bother you again, Alison, but Vintegekits continues to cause problems. He vandalised my Talk page (now fixed), deleted some valid comments I made on West Briton, and is "reporting" me for what I said about Carrickfergus. Details of this are to be found on Irishguy's Talk page, under the heading West Briton. I'd be most grateful to you for your advice. I think that Vintagekit's difficulty with me is that I come from a very different Ireland to his, and he finds what I say to be uncomfortable. Millbanks 09:55, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Is he on probation as intended? [18] - Kittybrewster ☎ 10:19, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
I would watch what you are saying Millbanks, you have made personal attacks against me on a number of pages now with no evidence, no links, no diffs etc - I did not "vandalise" your talk page I placed a invite to the WP:IR on it like I do with many editors that edit WP:IR articles - which you have. O know you are a relatively inexperienced editor in terms of the number of edits you have made but you have been around a long time and know about both WP:NPA and also more importantly WP:OR.
I wiped the "conversation" per WP:TALK - this is not boards.ie - your posts had nothing to do with the article and you are once again just using talk pages to ramble on with your own POV - just like this. Irish Guy has warning you on a number of occasions not to use talk pages as a chat room eg. here where he said you were "using article talk pages as a venue to spread your personal POV which has nothing at all to do with improving the article" and "Stop treating article talk pages as chat rooms" - funnily enough you replied to him "I make valid comments which make you feel uncomfortable, while semi-literate, obscene, sectarian and racist comments are allowed to remain" - sounds familiar doesnt it!!
I have no problem with you your culture or religion - I have never mentioned religion ONCE in any of my thousands of edits on wiki, however you always bring it up so thats just not going to wash - my issue is that you use article talkpages as web chatrooms, in the main you dont edit edit the actual articles and you dont provide references or sources for what you are trying to say - per WP:V or WP:RS and thats not even mentioning the breach of WP:SOCK arising from using two accounts to cross edit on the same article talk page.--Vintagekits 10:36, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Just spotted this as well. Millbank/Bill Tegner has been made well aware of the issues relating to talk pages - five or six warns have been given about this maybe some formal actions needs to taken or a final warning per WP:NPA, WP:TALK and WP:OR.--Vintagekits 11:29, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Waterboarding, again
Check out: Talk:Waterboarding#Circular_empty_talk. Fingers crossed. I archived that complete mess of a discussion section above that also. If people are going to squabble over the silly ultra minor details nothing is going to get done, and having stared at that article for two days, I can't see any other solution to the is/isn't question that is our major stumbling block. Anyone who won't adhere to NPOV simply won't be able to work on that article, much. I can't see any other way. • Lawrence Cohen 18:46, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
...thank you for your participation. I withdrew with 83 supports, 42 opposes, and 8 neutrals. Your kind words and constructive criticism are very much appreciated. I look forward to using the knowledge I have accrued through the process to better the project. I would like to give special thanks to Tim Vickers and Wikidudeman for their co-nominations.
Mate, could you un-move-protect my talkpage? lol - er, and User:Riana/RfA? Silly me. 0:) ~ Riana ⁂ 01:15, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
done and done :) - Alison❤ 01:18, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Hehe - thank you! Time to archive the beast and update the stats :) Talk later! ~ Riana ⁂ 01:19, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Feels weird having you ask that, BTW. Meta wiki is first turn on the left, just down the street ;) - Alison❤ 01:47, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Thankspam
Thank you...
...for your participation, criticism, and support in my recent RfA, which succeeded with a final count of 90/1/1. I appreciate all of your kind words, criticism, and suggestions. I extend a special thanks to Acalamari for his nomination, and Dihydrogen Monoxide and Husond for their coaching and nominations. If you need help in any administrative matters, please contact me.
Thank you again and, best regards, Neranei
This RfA thanks inspired by VanTucky's which was in turn inspired by LaraLove's which was inspired by The Random Editor's, which was inspired by Phaedriel's original thanks.
Revision and Deletion of an article
Hi,
i wrote an article on en.wikipedia some time ago and worked on it over the time. A few days ago i was told that it is marked for deletion (the article named "Oos"). At Wikipedia:Why_was_my_page_deleted? I found out that administrators can re-open the article so that it can be improved. Could you re-open the article so that I can improve it ?
Done - Hi Jimmy. This has now been restored to your userspace at User:Habam2004/Oos. Please do not put this back into mainspace, though, without extensively re-working it. It's been deleted three times already - Alison❤ 16:59, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
The test wiki
Hiya - you left me a message about this a little while ago. I've signed up (username the same as on here) - any chance you could sysop me so I can wield some (test) power? Thanks in advance. Giles Bennett(Talk, Contribs) 21:24, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi again - erm, now (for some reason) I appear to be blocked from editing the test wiki for being a sock? Very very confused...! Giles Bennett(Talk, Contribs) 23:24, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
You aren't blocked. I don't see your name in the block log. Miranda 22:28, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Not blocked, it's okay :) I've sysopped you over there so you can have some practice - Alison❤ 17:00, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Gaeilge
I see you are working on the Irish wiki, I'll drop over when I have time soon. I noticed btw that one of the waterboarding battlers last week than got blocked had a Dublin IP :-) I agree with him, just not about making it a war. Inertia Tensor 09:35, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Indeed. I'd not noticed that! And, of course, you'd be very welcome over at the other, Irish-language wikis. The more, the merrier :) - Alison❤ 17:01, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Veropedia invite
Thank you very much for the invitation to participate in Veropedia. I may be interested, but reading your post was the first time I had ever heard of it, so I need to do a little research first. I'm pretty new as a Wikipedian (although I have a long history of correcting grammatical errors), and I have found the cleanup of dab pages to be the perfect project for me right now with my time constraints. I started out proofreading and copyediting, which I do enjoy, but it takes a bit more mental energy and longer blocks of time. The nice thing about WP is that cleanup projects abound, so there's no need to get bored! I'm sure I'll get tired of the dab pages after a while and change to a different project...maybe Veropedia is it. When you have time (I can see that I never want to be an admin), maybe you could explain the work that is needed there, and what you think I could do to help. Thanks again. SlackerMom 13:44, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Sudoku moment
I had a minor Sudoku moment, if you check your mail. Nowt presssing, per normal, although it is an interesting postscript. FlowerpotmaN·(t) 21:59, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Got it, and acted upon. Thank you! Right again :) - Alison❤ 22:23, 9 November 2007 (UTC) (owes you email)
A couple more from where they came from, but I can save them up and you can splurge when it's handy, if you prefer? (Really, it is addictive) FlowerpotmaN·(t) 21:07, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
Got some of them too, thanks :) Keep 'em rolling - Alison❤ 17:08, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
need help
How can you add countdowns on user pages ?--DarkFierceDeityLink 00:35, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you mean? Do you mean you edit count? I can show you how to do that okay :) - Alison❤ 20:03, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
for ex say a game comes out in feb 10 2008 and i want to put up a countdown that tells other people how many days are left till that day how could i out a count down on my user page just like this website http://www.blingyblob.com/countdown/index.htm .--DarkFierceDeityLink 23:36, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi Alison, I've joined the Gaeilge Wiki and have added three stumpaí. I'd like to help out with Vicífhoclóir but I'll need some time to get accustomed to Vicipéid first. Tá mo chúntas Vicipéid anseo: Wiki01916. Slán leat. Wiki01916 09:14, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi there. Yes, I saw your Deilginis article, and the Seanchoill one. Well done indeed - it's super to see new people over there. And yeah, I can understand your apprehensiveness over wiktis; they are just so different to Wikipedias. Took me a while to feel comfortable with them. You would be soooo welcome on ga.wikitionary, though - even simple words like 'féar' (grass), 'madra' (dog), etc, etc need to be added. We've only about 300 entries, up from 30 in August, so there's a *lot* to do!! User:Moilleadóir has been only awesome over there. Fáilte romhat! - Alison❤ 19:54, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
He he, Seanchill or Seanchoill, I prefer the latter. Anyway, feicfidh mé thú thall ansin. Slán :-) Wiki01916 00:36, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
About Veropedia
Hey Alison, hows it going? I was looking around Wikipedia today and ran into Veropedia. I was wondering if you could provide me with more information on what a user on Veropedia would do. This seems very interesting to me, because I am growing increasingly annoyed with most of my time here on Wikipedia having to be geared towards fighting vandals and other things outside of writing articles. I came here to Wikipedia ready to write, but know I am caught up with all the bureaucracy that goes with this site. I was just wondering if Veropedia would be a better place for me, as it seems more rewarding. Thanks for any help. Hope you have a good day/night. Gonzo fan2007talk ♦ contribs 23:32, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Also interested in Veropedia. Checked out the site some. And I dropped you an e-mail just now. - Kathryn NicDhàna♫♦♫ 03:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
You know everything - more importantly, you know everyone
As you've some experience with dealing with editors whose contributions are 95% valid, 5% flaming, have you any suggestions on what can be done with this sorry saga? (See User talk:Canterberry and this AN/I thread for the background to the whole sorry mess.) I'm looking for someone who's totally uninvolved, is used to dealing with flamewars and is willing to wade through content disputes on articles about railway lines, and am racking my brains trying to think of someone. The obvious candidate, Giano (don't laugh - this is the kind of situation he shines in) has rather a lot on his plate right now. Any ideas? — iridescent 02:24, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Alison. I was wondering if you would be so kind as to edit me the text of the deleted article Dungeon (The Legend of Zelda Series) to the e-mail address listed in my preferences, as I am considering restoring it to the Zelda Wikipedia project. I would appreciate it a lot. Thank you.Cocoapropo 04:14, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Is now. :) Acalamari 22:55, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
My Abject Apology
Hippies
I wanted to let you know, now that VT's RfA has failed, that I am deeply sorry for allowing our disagreement on the matter to escalate as it did. After some reflection, my perception that a great editor was going down clouded my own views regarding those who were opposing him. I should never have allowed my frustration to boil over on you as it did. Please accept my complete and unequivocal apology. Regards, K. Scott Bailey 00:44, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm very sorry, too. I went on the defensive where I shouldn't have, because I felt attacked. I should have stepped back. VT has many, many of the qualities that are needed of an admin and I'm certain his next go at it will be successful. I can understand where you were coming from and I know you always had his best interests at heart - Alison❤ 00:57, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
sniffles GROUP HUG!!! :) seriously, though, well done on both sides. I really believe when everyone has the best of intentions (as you both do) that things can work out. This makes me very happy indeed. ~Eliz81(C) 01:04, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
I've been waiting for an excuse to use that photo! One Night In Hackney303 01:08, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Way to ruin a beautiful moment, Hackney ;) ~ Riana ⁂ 01:13, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Hackney, you are so going to hell, you know that? :) - Alison❤ 01:19, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey, I'm a hippie and proud of it! I've always said I was born about 25 years too late. If only I'd been a teenager in the 60s instead of the early 90s, I coulda been smokin' joints for Jesus, and all that good stuff... Anyways, glad to be back on the good foot with both of you (Alison and Eliz). Though I'm a bit brash and bold, I hate knowing that there's a genuinely good editor out there pissed off at me, and I consider you quite a fine editor. Again, best regards, K. Scott Bailey 01:47, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey, we hippies need to stick together! :) And yes, glad we're on our good sides again! - Alison❤ 17:07, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Another nice one, Hack, well done :) - Alison❤ 17:07, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
St John Bosco College Year 12 2007
Greetings,
Would you please be able to restore for a short time the page
"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St_John_Bosco_College_Year_12_2007" to it final state before deletion as I wish to save a final copy. If not, would you be ablew to send me an intact copy?
Thank you for being on the ball and a great admin! ~Jeeny(talk) 08:51, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes thank you, I really needed to take a nap, fighting vandals always makes me sleepy. :) KnowledgeOfSelf | talk 11:13, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
For your effort and diligence
RfA
I'll not do the fancy sort of thanks but I'm not someone who would say nothing either. A surprising number of people supported me & I only hope I can come up to expectations. I appreciate your support - thanks --Herbytalk thyme 16:30, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
That I can handle - not the world's biggest fan of user boxes....:) Thanks --Herbytalk thyme 17:23, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
Why?
Hey why do you erased my stupid and nonsence joke? That's was an user page you can say talk freetopics there. --Fandangox 01:48, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Because the editor who's page you posted it on has enough problems as it is. I just archived his page (Hi Kirby - reading this?) so he could get back editing articles and not be using Wikipedia as a social site. Note that user pages aren't totally free either - Alison❤ 02:01, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Yeah I'm reading it. What's the point of Archiving? I mean, you might as well delete the whole talk page. It's not like people are gonna reread things.Green Kirby 21:59, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
It's good practice, and it's nice for people to be able to refer to it at a later date. It's optional, though - Alison❤ 22:01, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Hello Alison, it appears that poor editing in this article resumed immediately after you unprotected the page. User:Frangible has added original research, a non-notable section about the Wikipedia "controversy", misrepresented statistics, and has bandied about the "vandalism" accusation (against me!). I think this article (and/or user) warrants a second look. Rklawton 15:03, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Fully protected - and on it goes again. You're such a notorious vandal, RK :) Seriously, it's obvious nothing has been resolved in the past two months. What a pity - Alison❤ 15:18, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
I'll go sit in the corner now. Rklawton 15:20, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Could you check this out
Hi Alison, could you check this out before it get out of hand. Thanks --Domer48 16:21, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Blocked for 1 year after previous two 6-month blocks expired and the same nonsense restarted. It's not every day you get to do a block of that duration. Wow! - Alison❤ 16:28, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
There she goes again with her big hammy undeserved admin fists :) One Night In Hackney303 16:34, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Now I know what I'm getting Ali for christmas.. those Hulk Hands thing.. so when she goes on a rampage, she can yell "Ali SMASH puny Vandals" before bringing the hammerfists of doom down on them ;) SirFozzie 16:52, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for that Alison, since One Night In Hackney303 has already given you a big round of applause, the hands at least, all that remains is for me to echo your own sentiments on the block, Wow! Now that is a no nonsense approch. --Domer48 17:32, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Can you please protect this page for 10 days or so. After the last bout of protection, consensus was gained on the talk page to remove the section of external links (see why on the talk page) and now we have supporters of that section who did not participate in any kind of talk page discussion on the matter despite knowing it was going on edit warring to re-add it. ViridaeTalk 21:12, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Already protected. - I just went over there to slap on a full prot. on an arbitrary version and saw that Krimpet got there before me. Good deal - Alison❤ 21:58, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks anyway. I was going to use RFPP but saw you had done one minutes earlier so were a good candidate for instant protection. ViridaeTalk 03:58, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Pwntskater
This user made a total of 3 edits (including one to the sandbox) and had not received a final warning before you blocked them indefinitely as a vandalism only account. TigerShark 23:25, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I did, and it's not something I usually do, either. However, their contribs spoke volumes about where they were going, as well as the short time between edits, they were patently not here to build an encyclopedia. Futhermore, given the reputation of the name (there has been a run on "pwn***" vandal names before), things were not likely to turn out well. Would you like me to AGF, unblock and apologize? I honestly don't mind doing that if you think they'll be okay - Alison❤ 23:59, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi Alison. Thanks for the reply, and I definitely see where you are coming from. Personally I would say reduce the block to 24 hours, but then I am probably far too optimistic when it comes to rehabilitation. I also have some thoughts about the real impact of indef blocks on new accounts, which I recently mentioned in a response to another editor here. If you have any thoughts on this, I would be keen to hear them. Thanks again. TigerShark 00:15, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Hmmm. That's a very interesting point you make and well, ... I can see the merit in that. I'll reduce the block to 24 hours and see how things go. Thanks for the feedback :) - Alison❤ 00:18, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
No problem, thanks for the interesting discussion. I just hope that the vandal goes on to write a featured article, rather than vandalise Jimbo's userpage! :) Cheers TigerShark 00:57, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
fixing it up
thanks for the userpage fix! wish i had better formatting instinct. ;) ~Eliz81(C) 00:58, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Somehow, I suspect your mind just isn't on it today ... for a whole variety of reasons :) - Alison❤ 01:03, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Identity box
I borrowed parts of your committed identity box for my own. It doesn't look nearly as good as yours (mainly because I have next to nothing on my user page. I'm sooo boring.), but I liked the wording and the layout. I hope you don't mind. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 21:53, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm honoured! :) - Alison❤ 18:56, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Ryuleng
Darn, I'm too slow today. I just sent Ryulong an email letting him know I'd be blocking a certain account and asking for a beating if it was just an alternate of his :) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 18:52, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey there. Beat you to it. The transclude of his userpage and the subst of his talk page onto their talk page was a dead giveaway. Also, when was the last time you saw Ryulong commenting in an RfA? :) - Alison❤ 18:54, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, that's what actually tipped me off in the first place! Guess I'm going soft, maybe I need a lesson in boldness... ;) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 18:59, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
This was the last time I saw Ryulong participate in an RfA. :) Before that, it was Betacommand's second RfA. Acalamari 21:36, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for deleting it
I thought the Take my hand thing was a joke... :(FC2007 18:53, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
How much does she get paid???
wow u sure do alot of stuff 4 1 person...
Amazing....
Sorry to "intrude" here, but administrators (or regular editors, for that matter) do not get paid — being an admin or regular editor is a voluntary job :) Qst 21:44, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
CP's RfA
Are you sure about this? I have this extension that highlights admin user pages and the username whose comment you indented is showing to have admin rights. |dorftrottel |humor me 19:03, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Heh - better fix the code to work off username and not signature :) - Alison❤ 19:08, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Well, the adminrights.js extension uses a database of admins maintained by User:Ais523 himself. It highlights all links to admin user and talk pages, not limited to signatures. That's how I was fooled (that, and I was too lazy to look in the page history first...). I added a clarifying comment including the diff and the impostor account just to be safe.[19] |dorftrottel |humor me 19:17, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
And now for something completely different...
Something different in your e-mail; I'm looking for a second opinion (or maybe even a first opinion) on something, if you have a chance. FlowerpotmaN·(t) 22:01, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
My RfA
Hi; thanks for your support to my RfA, which closed successfully at (51/1/2). I'll keep this brief since I don't like spamming anyone: I'll work hard to deserve the trust you placed in me. Thanks again. — Coren(talk) 23:29, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
Please block
If you keep changing this -and on top of that placing back trivia sections- I'll report you for vandalism.
Simply ignoring a discussion doesn't solve anything, or make you right. JackSparrow Ninja (talk) 00:10, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
this person here keep vandalizing Nights jounery of dreams to false information using broken links please block him--DarkFierceDeityLink 00:14, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Text moved backwards to prevent it making the page go weird, if you get what I mean :) —Qst 19:29, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
This conversation is now ongoing on ANI. From what I can see, both of you are goading the anon editor. While their talkpage blanking isn't helping matters, it's not against the rules. Can I suggest you all step away from each other for a while? - Alison❤ 00:10, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Travel Wiki
Hi Alison. Glad to see you at the Travel Wiki. :) This new project is really cool!--U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A. 01:00, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
I saw you stepped in after I gave them both a warning. I hope what I did was alright. From the looks of what Green Kirby put in on Blue medinight's talk pages, he is is the one that is starting things. Keep an eye on it plox. :D Trevor"Tinkleheimer"Haworth 23:53, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
What you did was exactly right. And yes, Kirby stirring drama again - Alison❤ 23:56, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Oh for crying out loud! Just please leave us alone!Green Kirby (talk) 00:07, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Kirby, you've been nothing but disruption since you got here. You've been allowed an amazing amount of slack, but right now, you're seconds away from another block. Seriously - Alison❤ 00:09, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Well gee, that's nice to know. A 3rd block, how fun will that be. Well now, my friend just ran away from Wikipedia. I certanly hope you're happy. We just wanted to talk on each other's talk page, but no, you just HAD to intervein. You could'nt help making me miserable for the 10th time. Well, you did. I tried to tell you to just leave us alone, but you had to intervein. Well, thanks alot. I'm done here. Don't bother to block me.Green Kirby (talk) 00:26, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Well, he's come back. I think that if you try hard enough, you'll manage to ignore us. We're not cursing anymore, we're just talking. I just hpoe you don't block me. I'm hopeing you'll understand.Green Kirby (talk) 00:37, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
You don't understand. You have been told before, talk pages are for communication about work on articles. Every edit you make means another version of the same page, which in turn means more hard disk space taken up on the server. And if that hard disk space taken up has nothing to do with Wikipedia itself, why would anybody want to tolerate that?--91.121.83.168 (talk) 00:48, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Dear God! More disc space! The horror! The horror! Sometimes you guys are WAY to unreasonable. Of course, you have to go by Wikipedia's rules, no matter how retarded they are. He has left now, so you don't need to worry about it anymore.Green Kirby (talk) 00:55, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
And he's back again. Look guys, please don't block us.Green Kirby (talk) 01:06, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
If you don't want blocked then stop breaking the rules. -Sukecchi (talk) 02:20, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Or better you can leave us alone.Green Kirby (talk) 02:23, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Well now he's gone for good. He had to go to bed. So stop lecturing me.Green Kirby (talk) 02:41, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Kirby, you might want to watch your tone (maybe WP:TONE, I'm not sure if anything is there, but if so, you should read it). To me, your tone seems disrespectful to me, Sukecchi, and even Allison. With me and Sukecchi, it is not that bad, but Allison is an Administrator. She has authority over you. You were really close to a block again. Just reread what you write, and think to yourself, will anyone take this wrong way? Trevor"Tinkleheimer"Haworth 03:13, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Wait, wait, wait. Tinkleheimer, admins have no "authority" over anyone. They do have special "tools". Admins are just regular editors, but because they have those tools, and are supposed to be more trustworthy and are held to a higher standard. I know Alison knows this, but I just wanted to set this straight on this page. There is too much admin abuse going around, and quite a few admins think they are "above" the rest of the editors but that is not, nor should be the case. Again, this is not to Alison, she's a good admin. this is to you and anyone else who reads your message, in that admins have more "authority". I'm afraid that is a common misconception, and the more people who think this way, and believe it, including those "rogue admins" are out of line. Blocks are to prevent disruption to the project, they are not supposed to be punitive at all. I see that a lot lately. This has to stop. (Alison, sorry to use your page for this, but I felt I had to speak up about the misconception of what power admins hold.) Admins are not the police, and they need to get that notion right out of their heads. - Jeeny(talk) 04:31, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
What Jeeny said! :) Admins are more like janitors. We work behind the scenes, cleaning up and keeping the place running smoothly. We don't command more authority than anyone else. Everyone here; anon editors, registered editors, admins, etc, have the exact same standing in the community; no more and no less. We just have a few more buttons, is all, and what we're here for is preventing disruption and upholding community decisions. We're just editors, no big deal at all :) - Alison❤ 04:59, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Oh, so we're talking about my tone now? You guys will say anything to critiscise me. Here I was, minding my own buiness and talking to my friend, when you interviened. Why can't you just leave me alone? You're not trying to help me. Me and my friend are done talking for the day.Green Kirby (talk) 03:54, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
I bet you're getting all misty eyed right now, harking back to the days of model editors who never caused any problems like Hornetman16.... One Night In Hackney303 03:58, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
User(s) blocked. - drahmaz now over. Green Kirby has now been indefinitely blocked from editing for disruption and wearing out the community's patience. He was on more than his final "last chance". His friend has also been blocked for 24 hours. He's never even once edited an article here - Alison❤ 05:14, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Good job, Alison! After I posted my above comment, I looked at the talk pages, and thought to myself, OMG WTH, they don't have phones? Again, good job. :) - Jeeny(talk) 05:41, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
I try my best to help this kid, but nothing seems to work :(. I tried my best to get him to understand the tone of what he was saying. He is probably going to complain on his talk page, then I am going to try and explain to him, and dah-duh-dah-duh-dah. Trevor"Tinkleheimer"Haworth 06:30, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
I certainly hope all this nonsense is over...and he's not going to be unblocked a day later like he was last time. You try to help the kid and you get the 'leave me alone' defensive. Rather than doing as he was told to help him. Oh well. Also think that this comment "Dear God! More disc space! The horror! The horror! Sometimes you guys are WAY to unreasonable. Of course, you have to go by Wikipedia's rules, no matter how retarded they are. He has left now, so you don't need to worry about it anymore." was written by his father. -Sukecchi (talk) 10:53, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
It might be a good idea to protect his talkpage since his friend can still use it. Happy Thanksgiving!(Sasha) 14:25, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Green Kirby
Re User_talk:Green_Kirby#Blocked, I endorse this block. Thank you for doing it and handling things while I was away. I'm sorry that it has come to this, but I think it wholly appropriate. His talk page became a mess the last time I indefinely blocked him, so it may be necessary to simply protect it again. I'll do that if I'm online.--chaser - t 12:37, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Not exactly the same thread, but didn't want to spam you with an extra section. Just a quick thanks for your input at User talk:71.239.133.107, I appreciate it. :) – Luna Santin (talk) 17:38, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Blocked it, but only for 15 minutes, it's identified as a FSU addy, and I didn't want to block possibly a swath of College kids long term SirFozzie (talk) 19:16, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. Happy Thanksgiving!(Sasha) 19:21, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Userboxes
Hi just to known, cause I'm new here, what is the template to make a userbox?--Fandangox (talk) 02:09, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Barnstar
The Invisible Barnstar
For being with us for so many years, and for many years to come, raise a glass. MarlithT/C 05:56, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
DRV notice
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Ayman Ahmed El-Difrawi. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this article or speedy-deleted it, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Jreferee t/c 20:01, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Ummm, I did neither, actually, but how and ever. I recognize it as an article that was DRV requested once before by a banned editor - Alison❤ 20:06, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Ping
Well, the header pretty much says it ;) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 22:02, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
lol! To be honest, I wasn't keeping tabs on it at all. Wow ... I'm kinda shocked. Still, I've a long way to go before I catch up on that VoABot guy ;) - Alison❤ 00:38, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Go Allie go!! :) ~Eliz81(C) 06:05, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
BTW does my RfA really close in like 1 hour?! ~Eliz81(C) 06:09, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Yep. Certainly looks that way :) Wonder will there be a last minute flood of opposes :O - Alison❤ 06:19, 22 November 2007 (UTC) (of course not!)
The lack of WikiProject endorsement might do it.... One Night In Hackney303 06:22, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Ah, hack! :P ~Eliz81(C) 07:40, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Tick Tock... Tick Tock... ~*Ariel taps her fingers, fidgets, wonders "Are we there yet?" and obsessively refreshes the page...*~ Ariel♥Gold 07:46, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Looks like we're into overtime here. Tick tock, tick tock. Better muster the cabal for a last minute flood of opposes :) - Alison❤ 07:47, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
LOL... nice clock. ;) ~Eliz81(C) 07:56, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Popcorn and tea, anyone?
I see I'm not the only one on 'Crat Vigil. Is it too late to post at AIV for all the IP vandals to come join in? - Kathryn NicDhàna♫♦♫ 08:15, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
I'd love to be able to help out - but they tell me I'd have to go through this WP:RFB thing first and it'll take 7 days. I'm guessing a crat will show up before then... ;) WjBscribe 08:17, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
What if we muster all the IP Vandals to storm the gates? Instant RfB! - Kathryn NicDhàna♫♦♫ 08:24, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
(Wait, what am I saying... the IP Vandals hate us. Back to the WikiProjects plan!) - Kathryn NicDhàna♫♦♫ 08:24, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
early 'grats, Kathryn!! Durn cratz. :P ~Eliz81(C) 08:28, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Congrats to you, too! Mop time! (100%, go you!) - Kathryn NicDhàna♫♦♫ 08:30, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Dangit! I intended to comment on your RfA as well, Kath. Are post-closing time opinions counted? lol. Ariel♥Gold 08:31, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
I figure if they haven't closed it, it's still fair game. I just got one more, sooo.... - Kathryn NicDhàna♫♦♫ 08:40, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey, you lot better clean up after you. Just look at the floor. And who barfed red wine in the corner there? Ewwww - Alison❤ 08:36, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Well, it is not a typical ArielVerbosity™ length, but I had gone through your contribs a couple days ago, and didn't save the diffs. Ah well. You both deserve it, what a wonderful holiday gift this will be for you both! Ariel♥Gold 08:43, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
I told Alison she should have chosen a carpet that won't show stains...
Wow, Ariel, what a fabulous note to end on. Thank you! - Kathryn NicDhàna♫♦♫ 08:51, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
LOL That's "short" for me. I really had intended on commenting sooner, I just let the days get away from me somehow, lol. Ariel♥Gold 08:56, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
I think the hours have gotten away from me... I wanted to stay up till the 'crat closed it, but all that wine is kicking... in... zzzz... UH, I, uh, want to thank the Academy, and Alison and Acalamari and Ariel and Eliz andd...zzzzzzzzz... - Kathryn NicDhàna♫♦♫ 09:03, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
LOL Sleep well, Kathryn, and no worries. You'll wake up to spam 'grats, lol. Ariel♥Gold 09:04, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
I think we're kindred spirits!!! ~Eliz81(C) 09:05, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
hugs and slurps from wine glass ~Eliz81(C) 09:28, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Congratulations to you both. And this was simply hilarious. Yes, you two, get to work cleaning up this mess! Ariel♥Gold 11:08, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
I am so happy for them both. They will both be super admins - I just know it. Happy, happy :) - Alison❤ 11:10, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
...wakes up... stumbles back into living room, wonders what those extra buttons are for, starts poking around... ;-) - Kathryn NicDhàna♫♦♫ 18:46, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Mannix is back again
Oy.... Mannix is back again. Jeez, I give WP a miss for a night, and what's the first thing I see. I am tempted to totally ignore it on religious grounds, as I think the S***** I*** and all its works are the work of the devil. :O) FlowerpotmaN·(t) 23:19, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Final-warned, yet again. And yeah, I have very similar feelings about the Sindo and Sir Doctor AJF Whatsizname :) - Alison❤ 00:34, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Yay!
Magic angelpixie dust for Allie! :D --krimpet⟲ 03:14, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Good stuff! Definitely a good move by the Committee - I'm sure you'll go great! Cheers, Daniel 11:25, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Congratulations, Alison, and Happy Thanksgiving! --Kyoko 11:35, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
:) Thank you, all. I'm absolutely delighted. And {{hugs}} to you, Deskana, for your stellar 'crat work this morning!!! - Alison❤ 11:36, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Now all you need is a checkmark icon like what I've seen other people use. --Kyoko 11:41, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Congrats Alison! Hopefully when Cary has confirmed your identity a steward will switch on the flag asap. You're definitely a good choice for checkuser. Have fun! Majorly (talk) 11:44, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
WOW! Congratulations Alison! Ariel♥Gold 12:18, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Much congrats! Sock users phear the power!!! :) FT2(Talk | email) 12:44, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Sock users phear the power!!! Oh, yeah. Allie was already... a force to be reckoned with, now even I'm a little scared ;) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 12:58, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Excellent. Definately the right sort of person to wield the power. Look out all you smelly socks! :) --AliceJMarkham (talk) 13:28, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
You have my sympathy ;), see you on the list! --Herbytalk thyme 13:31, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Couldn't think of a more appropriate and qualified person to 'wield the power'. Way to go, Allie! -- User:RyanFreisling@ 13:42, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Excellent. You're the perfect choice. I'm very proud of you. - Kathryn NicDhàna♫♦♫ 18:46, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Ermm... perhaps I'll put that lolcat sockpuppet account on hold for now. ;) But srsly. CONGRATS Alison!! It's just a big ol' day for user permissions isn't it ;) And Kathryn no coffee, moar wine! :P ~Eliz81(C) 18:56, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you, all :) It is a bit of a day for flags, isn't it? - Alison❤ 02:51, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Ping 2.0
Knock, knock—you have mail ;) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 19:36, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Working on it. Might be a little while, though. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 22:39, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you so much :) - Alison❤ 23:43, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
George Cross
Hello. Apparently you don't think winners of the George Cross, the second highest decoration for gallantry in Britain, are automatically notable. I'd be interested in hearing your reasoning for this, seeing as it flies in the face of wikipedia policy and common sense. Nick mallory (talk) 02:33, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
It was your comment there which prompted me to ask you this question here. It is not 'rude' of me to ask you why you don't think winners of the George Cross are inherently notable. After all Wikipedia's notability guidelines for people say that a person is generally held to be notable if "The person has received significant recognized awards or honors." The George Cross is clearly such an honour, second only to the Victoria Cross. Once again I ask merely for an answer to my question, simply telling me not be "rude" in asking it is not a satisfactory answer. You have provided no evidence or reasoning whatsoever to back up your claim and I merely look forward to seeing some substance to your assertion that a winner of this award should be deleted. Nick mallory (talk) 04:46, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
"Flies in the face of [...] common sense" strikes me as being rude, as does "What are you talking about?". Either way, I've replied on User talk:Rifleman 82 and am waiting further information from David Underdown, who has brought up a valid point. Frankly, some of your GC articles are two or three lines about an otherwise non-notable person (dispute aside) and regardless of the point of view of a Wikiproject, they seriously look on the bad side of Wikipedia:Notability. Given the evidence to-date, this is not an unreasonable premise - Alison❤ 04:55, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
around??
heya allie, admin question for ya. around? ~Eliz81(C) 08:03, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
You know where I am ;) - Alison❤ 08:04, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Woot!! :) Was hoping you could tell me how to do the template stuffs for user blocks? Over at AIV ~Eliz81(C) 08:06, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Okaaaay. Which templates? like vblock and stuff? - Alison❤ 08:08, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Like for this fella, 24 hrs i'm thinkin ~Eliz81(C) 08:10, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm taking too long, already blocked. But in general that ~Eliz81(C) 08:10, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
That all looks about right. Make your own block templates, BTW :) - Alison❤ 08:22, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
When admins place a talkpage notice it's personalized?? For realz? ~Eliz81(C) 08:30, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm asking about talkpage notices that they've been blocked for x hours, each admin has their own template? ~Eliz81(C) 08:34, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
They don't have to, but some do. Haven't you seen Ryan's block message that says "Go down to the pub and have a pint to relax!" (or something like that) lol. I made one for Chris a while back, I think it is at User:ArielGold/sandbox if you want to see it, but yeah, many admins make their own. I'm sure Alison would help you make one that's "you" :) Ariel♥Gold 08:41, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
(ec) I just use the standard ones, so I type {{subst:uw-block|George W. Bush|time=10 years|reason=being rouge|sig=~~~~}} and that gives me this;
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 10 years in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for being rouge. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make constructive contributions. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below. Alison❤ 08:44, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
basically, all the template fields are optional. You can use block or vblock or sblock, depending on the case - Alison❤ 08:44, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks you two!! :) Am so tired I must hit the hay, but useful to know where these durn things come from :P Thanks for the heads up. ~Eliz81(C) 08:48, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm sure you'll use the checkuser tools carefully and wisely. Good luck.--U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A. 20:47, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you both :) Cary just toggled the bit about an hour ago. I need to start slowly and carefully here, though. Deskana, you'll be delighted to hear that you can get more snooze in now :) - Alison❤ 20:50, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Woo-hoo! AGK gets to Clerk Alison's first ever CheckUser :) seriously, good luck - you seem to at least look as though you know what you're doing :PAnthøny 22:22, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Any chance
Hi Alison could you check this out for us. The information is referenced! Quotation marks were called for, and I supplied them! Was then told they were irrelevant. The page has been protected and then unprotected today. I have taken the advice of the blocking admin, and have backed off. Any chance of a look? --Domer48 (talk) 20:21, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Domer, I'm really sorry, but can you run this by another admin? I'm leery of going near Troubles articles if I can help it. Really sorry - Alison❤ 20:51, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
No worries at all Alison. To be honest I would'ent blame ye ;), Just thought after I posted you that I should leave it to the blocking admin dahhh. I left a post on my talk page for ye. Thanks Alison, TC regards --Domer48 (talk) 20:56, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Could you please Fully protect this article as it is the center of the mediation that I am working on, and it is constantly being altered, against the mediation. Thanks in advance. The edit warring wont stop, so I would like this to be the stop. <DREAMAFTER><TALK> 21:06, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Took care of it, Dreamafter. One less thing you have to worry about Ali :) (ZOMG Edit Conflict). SirFozzie (talk) 21:13, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Green Kirby
Hello:
I'll be honest with you; I'm Green Kirby's dad. Some of the issues he's had on his talk page are my fault. Parents have a hard time not defending their kids. But I no longer do that.
His subsequint issues are maturity. I'm amazed at the number of contributers that asked him to stop using Wikipedia as a chat room, and yet he did as he pleased. This lack of ability to grasp reality until privilages are yanked is a concern my wife and I address every day.
But he's a good kid. He nurtures his recently adopted Asian sister and responds well when I stick a finger in his face and yell.
I won't request that you change your mind; I'll only say that we regret the growth he'll miss without your guidence. This kid is a writer and film maker waiting for the future.
Happy checkusering - when did all of this begin? —Qst 22:33, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
Just this afternoon. I've done one or two cases already. Thanks :) - Alison❤ 00:20, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
I was going through RFCU, and I saw you confirmed a case, thought my mind was playing tricks on me :-) —Qst 12:26, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Cool to see we have a new checkuser, and I've no doubt you'll so great. Has fun with it. Heimstern Läufer(talk) 06:14, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Here's my official thanks, coach!!
Kitteh sez.... Thank You!!!
Thank you all for your support for my successful RfA which closed with 62 supports, 0 oppose, and 0 neutral. It was wonderful to get the community feedback, and I'm looking forward to my mop-wielding! If there is anything I can do to be of service, please let me know.
I would particularly like to thank coach Alison and Anonymous Dissident, my two wonderful co-nominators, and everyone who watched the page and ran the tally.
I R SYSOP? O RLY? :P ~Eliz81(C) 01:46, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
This RfA thanks stolen from Kathryn NicDhàna, who was inspired by Neranei's, which was inspired by VanTucky's which was in turn inspired by LaraLove's which was inspired by The Random Editor's, which was inspired by Phaedriel's original thanks.
Thankspam 4U!! But srsly. Where would I be without your guidance and support and lolcat-partner-in-crimeness?? You've been awesome and supportive and I couldn't have asked for a better coach, nominator or friend!! *hugs* ~Eliz81(C) 01:46, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Meep. And apparently I need formatting to not kill ppl's talk pages!! ~Eliz81(C) 01:47, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
You have mail
Absolutely no Wikipedia-relevant content in the mail. Complete time-wasting. And you probably have got it already, but still.... :O) FlowerpotmaN·(t) 05:30, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
No, I hadn't. And thanks a bunch - you now owe me a new (laptop!) keyboard. Ismaith liomcácamilis - awesome! :) - Alison❤ 05:38, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
"Ciúnas bóthar cailín bainne" FlowerpotmaN·(t) 22:25, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Done
I watched the edit :) cheers --Herbytalk thyme 09:06, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Wow, he protects it when I request that you do it, and you unprotect it when I request that he do it! You two are a great team!
The Special Barnstar
For unprotecting an article so quickly, you deserve this! <DREAMAFTER><TALK> 22:22, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Alison, see [20] Atomic has twice added the list since the mediation closed with the decision to not add lists. Can he be added to the revert probation on as decided by the troubles mediation arbcom.--Padraig (talk) 22:53, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
He's now on probation under the Troubles Arb conditions. Thanks for the barnstar, Dreamafter :) - Alison❤ 00:39, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Weird thing
How did this user edit pages in 2001, when the account was created on 15 June 2007? Just a question. <DREAMAFTER><TALK> 00:15, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
The account was moved by a 'crat back in the early days before logging was established to the extent that it is today. Then a vandal registered it and grabbed it a few days back - Alison❤ 00:50, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the response! <DREAMAFTER><TALK> 13:14, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Official, slightly delayed due to illness, Thankspam!!!
This RfA thanks inspired by Neranei's, which was inspired by VanTucky's which was in turn inspired by LaraLove's which was inspired by The Random Editor's, which was inspired by Phaedriel's original thanks.
Not any time soon. Trust me on that one :) - Alison❤ 07:29, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Aye, she's got to learn how to use her big hammy checkuser fists first :) One Night In Hackney303 07:37, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
I sure hope soon is only the next 13 minutes. If you ever get an RFB, lemme know. Trevor"Tinkleheimer"Haworth 07:51, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you :) That's so kind - Alison❤ 07:52, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
O.O. Yay! Another person I can bother with my regular checkuser witchhunts! I hope I don't wear you out like I did Deskana though. Now for the oversight and crat bits... --DarkFallstalk 08:01, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
I stole that from Kyoko. Anyway, you may or may not be getting a message soon sorting all that stuff out :) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 14:57, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you, thank you!! 'Crat on pt. wiki sorted it out now and all is well - Alison❤ 07:53, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Would you...
Possibly mind elaborating on this. Thanks! Davnel03 17:30, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Certainly. Replying on your talk page - Alison❤ 18:30, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
In which case could you delete this, as it will no longer be needed. Cheers, Davnel03 18:52, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Done - thanks for being nice about it :) - Alison❤ 18:54, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Just an FYI, discussion has now been completed. Anthøny 18:09, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the note. I've commented on your talk page in detail - Alison❤ 18:29, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey, thanks!
Thanks for the interest in my proposal for a WikiProject Feminism. Dunno if there's really going to be enough people to make a project of it but, eh, might as well try. I've sort of been waiting for someone else to do it but I got tired of waiting. Then again there's that little fact that I'm male; talk about presumption. But, then again, I'm not a control freak about my approach to it. I'm just seeing if I can get something going. If others want to take leadership or point on it if it develops, I'm totally fine and cool with that. Cheers, Pigman☿ 20:54, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
you've been checkusered
Hi Alison, I checked, and you are indeed a user of Wikipedia. You have mail, BTW. --Kyoko 22:47, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi Alison, I'll tell you what I've told a dozen other people:
Show me the policy I am supposedly violating. I have discussed this at length with a number of administrators in the past and they have said there is no definite policy on the faking of the user interface on a user page. The link you provided in your edit summary is exactly what I'm talking about: At worst, it is frowned upon. But most users manage to find a reason to smile about it. The last time someone removed the fake interface from my user page, they were blocked for their personal attack in their edit summary. I reported that user to an administrator and explained to him what that user was trying to do. The administrator blocked the user in question for his personal attack, but made no attempt to remove the fake interface again. Another user nominated the page that the fake interface links to for speedy deletion. Another administrator came along and removed the speedy deletion tag, pointing out to the other user that it was a user page and no attempt had been made to discuss it with me first. Again, this different administrator made no attempt to remove the fake interface from my user page. I would say that is pretty concrete evidence that they don't mind the faking of the user interface so long as it is restricted to user pages. Anywhere else would most certainly be inappropriate, but it does not create any problems on a user page. In fact it just makes people amused/annoyed with themselves for falling for such a trick when they click on it. If at some point a policy against simulating the interface is established, I will comply with it. Until then, I am keeping it on my user page. In the future (unless there is actual vandalism on a user page or a policy has been violated) discuss changing the page with the related user before editing it yourself. Any such edits without discussion first are considered quite rude. Thank you and have a nice day.--Just JamesT/C 00:55, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Mail 4 U
O hai thar, you can has email kthxbai. ~Eliz81(C) 00:59, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
From me too as well... Miranda 02:09, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Nevermind, figured how the process went. Grr... Miranda 02:27, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Please fix this or it will be deleted. Bearian'sBooties (talk) 02:24, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Delete away :) All I did was try to salvage it before, I'm afraid. I've suggested merge and redirect - Alison❤ 07:06, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
As an admin, could you do me a favour...?
Hi. I've got a user page here. As an admin, can you tell me if there's any way to change my username here? Because I don't like it very much, thanks! 172.207.108.82 (talk) 19:30, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks very much! Appreciated. 172.207.108.82 (talk) 19:36, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
You're welcome. Acalamari 19:38, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
And thank you, Acalamari! - Alison❤ 07:07, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
You're welcome! :) Acalamari 17:19, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
You've got mail
You have mail from me. Pigman☿ 05:24, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Humorous?
Please don't take this the wrong way because I respect you a lot not only as an admin but also an editor but I'm surprise to see you describe !!'s user page as humorous. It seems to be openly antagonistic and just take more jabs at Durova. She made a huge mistake in blocking !! and has been royally raked over the coals many times over. All the difs that !! post have already be discussed on posted on the RfC, user talk pages and at the ArbCom. Is it really fair to keep taking jabs, especially in a sarcastic manor? I don't know how you could find that humorous. AgneCheese/Wine 19:13, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Listen to the substance of what I was just saying[21]; it's time to let it go. This guy has been picked on and beaten up enough as it is - please cut him some slack here. Complaining to ANI about someone userpage without allowing them to respond (as you did) is just stirring more drahmaz. This isn't what Wikipedia needs right now. The guy has a somewhat Pythonesque sense of humour. It's time to nod towards that and move on. People making a big issue (without mentioning the war again) of hir humour has already generated a storm ... over nothing. Let's learn from that - Alison❤ 19:21, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
It is not about victimology and even humor can be misplaced and needlessly hurtful. Do two wrongs ever make a right? If another user lost their temper with me in a editing discussion and said some homophobic comments would that justify me to create a mocking template that says "Hey look at the silly homophobe and the stupid stuff he said?" I agree that !! was wronged but I don't think his userpage is doing anything to help the community and comes across as a petty jab at Durova. Even if it is not intention it is still mocking, hurtful and unnecessary. My posting to ANI was after I attempted to make contact with !! but was quickly bulldozed by his friend Giano. I know from the past that once Giano has made his mind up about something there is little room around him. I had no idea if !! was on or when/if he would ever see the message buried in his talk page history. I went to the ANI board because I thought continued and unneeded antagonism was something that Admins would be concern with and would hopefully have better luck getting past Giano's gatekeeping. It is somewhat disheartening to see that I was mistaken. AgneCheese/Wine 19:37, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Sour grapes. Durova earned the backlash without !!'s help (even by her own words it was her 'worst' investigation ever), and !! deserves some latitude for humor. Keeping it going on AN/I or anywhere else is pointless. !!'s page will be archived soon enough. If you can't smile and find any humor then don't read the page. (and hello Alison) Lsi john (talk) 19:57, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
<2 X conflict>Come and live in the real world Agne! Giano (talk) 20:00, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
A couple of us have, without having read Alison's or other's comments, said on !!'s talk page that we find the userpage humorous. I think he deserves to find any humour in this situation that he can, on his own pages, and it's sick and sad that people are 'telling on' him for it after what he's been through.Merkinsmum (talk) 21:15, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
You're a CU?
New to me... well, the foundation are right to trust you with the tools - you're an excellent admin. Will(talk) 20:31, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Favour please!
Hello Ali, hope you are well. I'm needing a kind person to second my request at User:Betacommand/Commons. Looking down the list of people who are already approved I saw you. Please and pretty please, can you endorse me? All the best, Angus McLellan(Talk) 11:59, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Now that's what I call an endorsement. Even my mother wouldn't say such nice things. Many thanks! Angus McLellan(Talk) 22:11, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
I hereby award you this...
The FAMILY SIZE INDUSTRIAL STRENGTH ULTRA BARNSTAR
...for being one of the most hardworking, honest, trustworthy, and supportive people on this project. I just hope it's not too big to fit on your mantle :D krimpet⟲ 06:48, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
74 barnstars?!?!? You really deserve every last one of them though. — $PЯINGεrαgђ 16:10, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm ... well ... shocked and stunned into silence by the sheer enormity of this gift. Just ... wow!! Thank you so much for your kind words, too, dear friend. I don't know quite what to say .... Alison❤ 16:36, 27 November 2007 (UTC) (and you too, Springeragh :) )
Seconded ;) you deserve it, Alison! Anthøny 21:28, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
gawks at super-sized barnstar* You definitely deserve this, Alison! That's something you can't just pick up at Costco! P.S. There is something of some importance in your inbox. Love, Kyoko 16:43, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
hello and thank you
Hello Alison and thank you for your note. I am new to Wikipedia so your help is very much appreciated! (By the way, I am writing a scientific biography about William Sealy Gosset aka "Student," the great statistician and life-long employee of Guinness. Two of many greats in Ireland!)Suade (talk) 19:47, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
POV account
In the past you've blocked Special:Contributions/Crawdad22 because it's apparently a single-purpose POV-pushing account on Akins High School . Can you take a look at it again? The problem seems to be persisting. Thanks. Arthurrh (talk) 23:38, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Blocked again for another week. What a shame :( - Alison❤ 02:14, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Disclosure
Hi all. I have a few things I need to say publicly here, to make sure everything is out in the open and to clear things up.
Recently, User:CMoreschi posted this message to the WikiEN-l mailing list. I'm not a member myself, but it was brought to my attention.
I was subscribed to the "Wikipedia and Cyberstalking" mailing list from October 10 until October 17. I joined because I believed it to be a group for those who have been stalked on Wikipedia. I'd recently been, as many folks here know, and I needed help and support. After waiting for a few days, I realized it was for none of these things, and I unsubbed never to go back there.
I posted two messages in total, copied below; an "I'm here" message, and a "leaving" message. As they are written by me, I am including my text below:
Hi all,
I just joined the list here yesterday (thanks, SlimVirgin!). I'm User:Alison and I'm just another admin from English Wikipedia. I've been involved in helping others over the last while in cases of harassment and stalking on-wiki but recently had an episode of my own. A banned editor became far too interested in me personally and started a campaign against me, both on and off wikipedia.
Anyway - glad to be here!
-- Allie
and, some days later;
Y'know, this endless cycle of bitterness, anger and wikipolitics really isn't helping matters (nor is it helping my brain right now). I was lurking for the last week or so, waiting to get a feel for things before speaking up. I'd a lot to get out of my system & a few things to say.
Either way, I don't think this is the place for me. Can someone point me towards the unsub link, please?
Thanks,
-- Allie
PS: Honestly, [name redacted] is not the worst of admins. She means well & this I know. Back when I had [name redacted] harassing me, she deleted particularly hurtful stuff on Commons relating to me but never mentioned it.
[removed disparaging comments from others]
... and I was removed from the list. No unsub messages, nothing.
Some people have asked me for copies of emails. Honestly, not much happened really and I unsubbed pretty quick once I realized the nature of the place. I promised confidentiality when I joined (as ya do, given stalking involves vulnerable people) and I'm honour bound by that.
Kudos Alison for this post. Daniel 08:56, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
This is why wiki-business should be discussed on wiki whenever humanly possible. I only wish this were 100% of the time. Fvasconcellos (t·c) 15:54, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Cometstyles has smiled at you and showered you with WikiLove and hopefully this has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:User:Cometstyles/smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
P.S>>I'm watching you O_O ...--Cometstyles 18:11, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Birmingham
Hi...just a note to say that the Birmingham pub bombing mediation is not closed. Hughsheehy (talk) 18:42, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Thank you! More to the point, the mediation case seems to have been re-opened by the mediator - Alison❤ 02:16, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
It was closed by me, as going nowhere, no user that was involved was willing to help make a comprimise. <DREAMAFTER> <TALK> 02:49, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
editing articles
Thank you Alison! I very much appreciate your help. It's a good policy you've got. Cheers and talk to you soon!Suade (talk) 22:05, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Classification of admins
Hi Alison. Please consider adding your admin username to the growing list at Classification of admins. Best! -- Jreferee t/c 22:55, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
~*Giggle*~ That list is great! Ariel♥Gold 23:03, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Oh. I can't add my name because I'm human :( Bummer! - Alison❤ 02:15, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
I request advice to give to a spoiled youngster that got involved in something he wasn't ready for. This youngster made too many mistake to list. But he is a bright, loving and caring kid. If you can suggest some areas I can work with him that would help in the future, I would appreciate it. Many of the users he tried to spar with were older and wiser that him. But I now realise sparring is not the purpose of this site and manners are valued. I don't expect this user to be back on this site any time soon, but there may be some issues you can advice me on. It's nice to hear you swam through a dark, cold, river in the middle of the night without drowning. Been there, done that. Personally, I began treading water in the middle of the river and was unable to see either bank. But I'm here. You probably already know that you're not out of the water just yet. Stay in touch with medical professionals, and don't fret the meds. Sometimes it takes the right combination. Best wishes, and take care.Street Cred Fred (talk) 00:49, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
zOMG CU!
dang link didnt work. but check it out
(from here) :P
OK I think this is closer :P ~Eliz81(C) 07:41, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey, who stealing the cat :) (I think I'll have an admin one shortly!) --Herbytalk thyme 09:02, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Look familar?This is serious business, Herby! :) - Alison❤ 09:21, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Ooops, well I was just given it - nice kitty, nice kitty :) ( still gonna use it tho!) --Herbytalk thyme 09:28, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Oh do! You definitely have to add it to your enwiki userpage :) - Alison❤ 09:29, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Bureaucrat School
Heh! Unfortunately, I don't know what the bureaucrat interface looks like, so I won't be able to write the school, heh, heh! Also, Ryan wrote a lot of the NAS, but he isn't a bureaucrat either, though he might be something else soon... Acalamari 03:13, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
He has access to bureaucrat on a private Wiki, so he could if he really wanted to :) Daniel 08:54, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Me, too - rawwr! - Alison❤ 08:58, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Hmm, I didn't know about that. Acalamari 17:40, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
If you need an account there with sysop+'crat, just email me :) - Alison❤ 18:11, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
E-mail sent. :) Acalamari 18:23, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for dealing with this. One query: was the IP that showed up an educational one, or an ISP? --RFBailey (talk) 05:44, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
I'd rather not say, sorry :( - Alison❤ 05:46, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Fair enough. I only asked because, if it was his school's IP range, there could be an alternative explanation other than blatant sockpuppetry. But I think I'll leave this case to the admins now! --RFBailey (talk) 05:51, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Quick question
Is this or this the type of thing that CU might be able to help with at all?? Dynamic IP vandals are teh sux. ~Eliz81(C) 09:24, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
I think you've done your best here, Eliz. Prot the page and maaaybe apply a short-term anon-only rangeblock. Problem is, it's Bell Canada, so there's not much point as it's easy to hop to another IP. Checkuser is not much good, either, sorry - Alison❤ 09:28, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Never done a range block before! How does one do this, both method and determining said range? ~Eliz81(C) 09:30, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for running the CU. Since the user has previously been known to sock, but in this case hasn't received any warnings, what would be the correct course of action?
I will be tagging all the copyvios now. Merci beaucoup.Kelvinc 18:41, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
As checkusers we state the facts; we tend not to advise on courses of action. You should post to the administrators incidents board or something similar, if you require admin intervention as a result of a case. --Deskana(talk) 18:45, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks Deskana. I posted to WP:ANI and suggested blocking the socks, but I leave it to admins to decide whether to extend the original puppeteers' block (slight signs of improving behaviour). Kelvinc 19:26, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
RFA thanks
Dear Alison,
Thank you for your support comment in my recent RfA. I will go very slowly with AFD, and only after I'm much more sure of myself. Words nor pictures can express my heartfelt appreciation at the confidence the community has shown me. I am both heartened and humbled by this confidence. I will carry the lessons learned from the constructive criticism I have received with me as I edit Wikipedia, and heed those lessons. Special thanks to Pedro and Henrik as nominators. Special thanks to Rudget who wanted to. A very special thanks to Moonriddengirl for her eloquence and perceptiveness.
Cheers, Dlohcierekim 20:02, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
I came here to ask a simple question, I think... Then, I saw your message at the top about depression, needing time away from here, etc., and I forgot whatever it was I wanted to ask you about. I am sorry to hear that you have been "out of sorts" (as my grandmother would have put it) recently, and believe me when I say I know of what I speak. People who have never experienced depression---real, clinical, depression---do not know what it is like. But, those of us who've been there know how damned hard it is somedays just to get up and try to feel human. I needn't belabour the point. Let me just say that I wish you well, in this and in all things. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 22:02, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Core competition
This is a brilliant idea. I personally think this should be done more regularly - I am certian we would see a great deal of improvement this way and is gives users an incentive to address what really needs doing and some kind of reward other than barnstars for doing it. The Amazon River and Clint Eastwood are possible ones that interest me. I think of this as kind of like an investment in the project. Have you any articles which you know are shocking? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦"Talk"? 22:32, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey
First of all, congratulations on being +CheckUsered.. wield the magnifying glass well! I shoulda congratulated you earlier on it.. was busy over the holidays, but that's no excuse (and yes, I owe you such an email!) Anyway, hope you folks are doing well.. mind sending about 10 degrees of warmth my way? I haaaaaaaaatte winter! (Oh, btw.. remember that thing you asked me to consider? Don't be surprised if a certain redlink turns into a blue link soon) SirFozzie (talk) 19:56, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
You're the only person I know who would know about this
I see you have made some factual edits to this article. The section regarding Malignancies contains the sentence "Smooth muscle tumors are also associated with the virus in malignant patients". I'd correct this, except I'm not sure what it is supposed to mean. Can you help? Topnife (talk) 22:01, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Long time no see!
NHRHS2010 has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
Congrats on your new checkuser tools. NHRHS2010 talk 22:52, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
Done - all deleted now. There were quite a few! - Alison ❤ 18:05, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Declined - Hi there. I'm sorry, but there really isn't enough disruption to justify protection of it at this time. Really sorry - Alison ❤ 17:45, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
User(s) blocked. - yup! - Alison ❤ 01:00, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Unprotected - ok, I see where you're coming from there. Best of luck - Alison ❤ 23:38, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Fully protected - and on it goes again. You're such a notorious vandal, RK :) Seriously, it's obvious nothing has been resolved in the past two months. What a pity - Alison ❤ 15:18, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Already protected. - I just went over there to slap on a full prot. on an arbitrary version and saw that Krimpet got there before me. Good deal - Alison ❤ 21:58, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Ariel♥Gold 11:08, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
CheckUser is not a crystal ball. :-) --Deskana (talk) 11:28, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
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