User talk:Albes29

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Madonna albums discography

Hi, please don't add a user profile from Amazon as a source for record sales. See Wikipedia:Reliable sources before changing figures. Thanks, Spellcast (talk) 11:14, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Please don't add a user profile as a source. Again, see WP:RS. Thanks, Spellcast (talk) 10:06, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Response

I made response to your message on my talk page. Antonio Lopez ^(talk) 17:44, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Madonna Albums Discography

Please provide a website that actually contains all the sales needed. Please include only one site so that the sales will be neat and consistent. The link you currently provided (http://madonna.com/music/?v=aa&a=1) does not include the necessary information that is needed for worldwide sales. I would suggest 2 websites that have all the sales of all of her albums. They are:

Also, some of the most official sources in the world have said Madonna sold over 200 million albums. The totals for my first source is 185.2 million. The totals for my seconds source is 184 million. This means that some of her album sales are too low. However, since these are the two most qualified sources I found. I will choose between them. In the end, I chose to use my first one because it is more consistent with the other scraps we found. Also, I do not think the sales for Evita (6.5 million) and GHV2 (5.5 million) are that accurate. And that will be the sales that I will be editing it to. If you find a better or more reliable source, then we can change it. Please notify me so I will know as well. Thank you. HardCandy08 (talk) 20:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi, Thanks for your message. As I told you many times fans websites are not official sources, even worldwidealbums.net is consider spam by Wikipedia, I have some fans website and sales are very similar to yours, http://www.world4madonna.com/charts/ sales are not to different. In http://www.amazon.co.uk/Top-Biggest-Selling-Madonna-Albums/lm/37BXBHN8JKB68 sales are a bit lower but those are until 2004, them is normal to have more now, I agree with your sales but in the case of Confessions on a Dance Floor I am sure they are not 12 million, I already put a reference from Warner Bros. Records and they said that sales are over 8 million here the link, http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release.do?id=849268 , you can read the last paragraph and you will see what I said, this is official source, in United world chart is 7.5 million, http://www.mediatraffic.de/top-album-achievements.htm , but that is while the album was in the top 40, we have to admit that 12 million is to much if we count how low are sales the last 3 years.--Albes29 (talk) 10:04, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi. To clear up any confusion, I was trying to inflate Madonna's album sales so that they add up to 200 million before the release of COADF. I realize that it is wrong now, so I will change it back to what I think is a pretty reliable fan site. It is from beautifulmadonna.com. Since many sources have said that she sold 200 million, this one is the closest. Except for AL, which sold 5 million, not 6.5 as the site states. Erotica sold 6.5 million, not 5.5, also. SOrry for my recent mistakes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HardCandy08 (talk • contribs) 02:08, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Rihanna

Please don't write that GGGB has only shipped 1.6 in the USA, cause it has been certified 2times Platinum by RIAA, so it has absolutely sold more than 2 millions, and the total of my source is 2,064,000+...

Good Girl Gone Bad discussion

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Rep

I replied on my talk page. Also try not to remove talk page warnings. People will think your a bad faith vandal if you do that, I've found that it only makes people more suspicious of you. You are allowed to blank your talk page, it just looks bad. WP:ARCHIVEING would be a better solution. — Realist² 18:25, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

Brazil Hot 100

Please do not add the Brazil Hot 100, or any other chart listed at WP:BADCHARTS, to any Wikipedia articles.—Kww(talk) 18:13, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I know is not official, was not me the one who add it, I just try to fix the table because it wasn´t right. Sorry for my english. thanks

United World Chart/Mediatraffic.de

Please, when you see a reference to the United World Chart (or its host site, Mediatraffic.de), please don't correct the reference, as you did here. Please either delete the figure or find a reliable source. Thank you.—Kww(talk) 23:55, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

January 2009

Please do not add content without citing reliable sources. Before making potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. If you are familiar with Wikipedia:Citing sources please take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Please don't. — Realist² 15:24, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

Stop adding information it isn't supported by the source. — Realist² 18:19, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

I already put the source, maybe you sould check it again.--Albes29 (talk) 18:21, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

The Japanese sales are always difficult. Currently I don't know any reliable sources that document and archives sales figures for Japan. My guess is we will have to wait for it to be certified in Japan (shouldn't take too long) or wait for her record company to release sales figures. — Realist² 19:15, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Don't add unsourced information to Wikipedia, like you did on Circus (song). You should know better than this by now. — Realist² 19:45, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I did not know that the source was not updated yet, because I check the position on BBC Radio 1. I already put the link for BBC Radio 1 where is updated before.--Albes29 (talk) 21:28, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

???

You only have 3 sources out of 50 concerts I don't think it's enough so you please stop adding.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Radan92 (talk • contribs) 11:53, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm not saying youre saying there were only 3 concerts, I'm just saying there isn't enough info 3 isn't the same as 14..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Radan92 (talk • contribs) 16:26, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Beyoncé's Box office score data

I agree with you. New York is the only place that everyone can see on the Billboard page now. Robyka54 (talk) 19:33, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry they were fake, I was going to remove them but I see you already did it. Although the Paris, Rotterdam and Strasbourg ones were true!Wneedham02 (talk) 18:34, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I had a reference for the 3 Europe box scores ill try and find it and post it. Wneedham02 (talk) 15:54, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Britney

I feel thats a good idea, but do we have a reliable figure for TOTAL sales? If we do, we can forget about 83 mil. before Blackout and list total sales WW ever? --Flashflash; 21:55, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Shakira

Dear Albes29! You didn't see the reference from this one: from official http://shakira.com/discography/index/album/albumId/7/tagName/Albums The reference you used from biography of Shakira - it's old biography and wasn't changed for a long time. The new articles as you see say another more reliable information. Please, don't revert it once again! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Borkan85 (talk • contribs) 07:59, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply on my talk page! Regards, Europe22 (talk) 19:14, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

Shakira warring

Please come reach consensus for the recent reverts of the article on the articles talk page, regards. --> RUL3R^{*flaming | *vandalism} 16:51, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Hola! y gracias por responder. Y bueno, el objetivo es mantener algo de orden, hay algunas politicas que se estan violando como WP:3RR y pues es en el interés del proyecto que se ponga algo de orden. Esperemos alcanzar un consenso o habra que reportar a este usuario. --> RUL3R^{*flaming | *vandalism} 18:51, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

No, no hay ningun problema con que tomes codigo de mi pagina. Yo he tomado de algunas otras. Y repecto a Eurotop1, si, he visto que esta indispuesto(a) a discutir el tema, y de hecho estaba a punto de levantar el reporte en el boletin de administradores, pero creo que es mejor tratar de alcanzar consenso, y si no responde, pues se tendra que reportar. --> RUL3R^{*flaming | *vandalism} 19:04, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

No hay de que. No tengo tanto tiempo aqui (alrededor de 1 año diria yo), pero tengo experiencia en resolución de discusiones aqui...Saludos! =) - RUL3R^*trolling_*vandalism 18:46, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

I Am... Tour

Gracias por los comentarios. Deje un mensaje en la pagina de discusión de Yashar1, espero que esté dispuesto a explicar por que piensa que su referencia es mejor. Tambien he notado en sus contribuciones que se ha limitado a escribir prácticamente todo alrededor de Beyoncé. Es probable que sea un fanático, o que solo haya registrado una cuenta para ese propósito. Saludos! - RUL3R^*trolling_*vandalism 00:27, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree with you about the I Am... Tour; I was just wondering why Yashar1 continued reverting once you explained it on the discussion page and edit summary.--Overkill82 (talk) 01:08, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

The Fame Monster

Actually I don't think The Fame Monster can be labelled as a studio album since it was released in mostly countries as a re-release of The Fame. It also charted in some countries as The Fame. Billboard itself labelled it as an EP (the one-disc Fame Monster). I'll try to start a new discussion about it in the talk page. By the way, English is not my first language too :) Decodet (talk) 16:49, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Shakira

Hola, te quería pedir un favor. Resulta que he tenido problemas con un usuario ( http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario:201.221.186.34 ) que no deja de cambiar las ventas de Laundry Service en español sin poner fuentes.Le he advertido varias veces pero sigue haciéndolo. Que debo hacer? Gracias.--Albes29 (talk) 18:52, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Bueno, no conozco exactamente el procedimiento en wiki en Español. Pero lo que encuentro es que puedes reportar vandalismo en [1] y algún administrador verá que procede =). Saludos. > RUL3R^>trolling_>vandalism 20:20, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Blackout

Because those are not reliable sources and because the certifications don't even reach the 2 million copies. Let's make Wikipedia reliable, ok? Genieofmusic talk 00:23, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

links in your signature

Hi- it appears your signature does not contain a link to your userspace. Please fix that- if you want, I'll dig out the requirement, I think it's at WP:SIGNATURE. tedder (talk) 00:56, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Blackout sales

Because those sources are not reliable at all. OK, basically what you´re saying is that Blackout and Circus sold almost the same amount of copies. Seriously? Compare Circus´certifications with those of Blackout.... There´s a BIG difference!! Blackout didn´t even manage to sell a million copies in the States or Europe. Like I´ve said before, as fans we should be proud of her sales. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Txtcircus (talk • contribs) 17:32, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Laundry Service

Hola, ya he visto la página de discusión de Laundry Service y no se ve alguna discusión (interna) de las ventas. el problema es que hay 2 opiniones:

a) 13 millones Shakira.com & BMI

b) 20 millones Shakira.com & PR Newswire

El problema es que el primer link de shakira.com no está actualizado, por lo cual se toma al segundo link como válido. No revertiré los cambios que has hecho hasta que la discución concluya. Tbhotch^{Talk2 Me} 16:18, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

Rated R (Rihanna album)

Why r u removing the sourced statement about the album's worldwide sales from this article? Dan56 (talk) 21:53, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

RE. The sales figure for Feb. just serves as another tracking of the album's sales, not much different from telling what it sold in its third week on Billboard.

Dan56 (talk) 19:06, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Alejandro on Hot Dance

No problem. I found out the updated source before I saw your reply. Are you albes29 from pulsemusic? --Legolas ^(talk2me) 03:23, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Good for you. I got too bored at pulsemusic after bks left from there. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 10:14, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Legoman. --Legolas ^(talk2me) 10:31, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

RE:

Lo siento, pero las fuentes no son verificables. Cualquier persona que no tenga cuenta no puede probar que las fuentes son correctas, y es en contra de la WP:ORG. Vítor&R (talk) 18:43, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Re:Discography

We use the highest amount reported by a reliable source. –Chase (talk) 19:26, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Please stop changing this figure. We use the highest amount reported by a WP:RS. Frankly, I don't care what her label gave her, and that doesn't matter. Daily News is a reliable source and they report a higher figure, therefore we use that higher figure. –Chase (talk) 20:13, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

September 2010

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Consensus RFC courtesy notice - succession boxes.

Hola Albes, estaria encantado de conocer tu opinion acerca del consenso que tiene como propuesta la eliminacion a las cajas de sucesion y procesión para las canciones y albumes que ha llegado al pico nº1 aqui WT:CHARTS#Request for comment: Use of succession boxes. Es una importante decision que los editores de los Wikiprojectos relacionados debemos tomar conciencia y decidir si se queda o se elimina. Gracias. D6h! ^{What's on your mind?} 14:15, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Sources

Actually per WP:Reliable sources published books and magazines are considered reliable sources. If you really wanted to check the Billboard Brasil Magazine you could obtain a copy. Yes it would be hastle e.g. you'd have to travel to get one (visit library etc.) but that doesn't make it any more/less reliable. — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 13:48, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

I know exactly what you are trying to say because almost a year ago I made a similar argument to another user. Essentially, your saying how do we know that someone hasn't made up the chart position etc. However, if you were to use a book source you are not asked to produce images of that source to prove what you are saying is true. E.g. take a look at 4 Minutes (Madonna song) (which is a featured article - amongst the best work on wikipedia). It too uses book sources. Per WP:REF a published and reputable book or magazine is a WP:Reliable source. Unless you can show me a policy page which says "published book/magazine sources are not allowed with a url or picture" then what you are saying is incorrect. — Lil_℧niquℇ №1 ^[talk] 14:00, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Re:Hold It Against Me

Hi! You can now create a table, as there are two certifications. For Swedish certifications, just add the link to mainpage (Hitlistan.se) and format using {{Cite web}}. In the template, fill title as "Sveriges Officiella Toplista (Certifikat)" and publisher as "Sverigetopplistan". Done. If you have any doubts, feel free to ask me. And, your English is not bad at all :) Novice7 (talk) 09:07, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

It's perfect. I'm glad I was able to help you :) Novice7 (talk) 10:24, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

Pies Descalzos

I'm sorry I had to remove this line along with your edit, I simply can't see this in the source, and even if it did appear, it's a self published primary source, I think a more reliable source would be preferred.--Muhandes (talk) 23:20, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Ventas de Shakira

Hello, look Billboard's website "...her most recent "Sale El Sol," which spent 12 weeks at No. 1. Shakira's album sales to date are at 9.9 million, according to Nielsen SoundScan." the information is true, I'm not making this stuff up. Lucas Brígido ^msg 19:53, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately you may be right, but I was happy with the 9.9 million. I will not change the numbers again. Lucas Brígido ^msg 00:01, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Britney's compilation albums

Thanks for understanding me. These administrators don't know for shit, whatever, let them provide unhelpful spammy information. They don't discuss, If I try to edit any further I was warned I will be blocked from editing Britney's page... Let them have that shitty article!--Zefron12 (talk) 23:35, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Wait for sources to update

The data in an article and the sources used by an article need to match. Don't update chart positions based on publicity announcements before the sources used in the article have updated.—Kww(talk) 21:07, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Re: Scream & Shout

 Fixed :) - Saulo ^{Talk to Me} 12:35, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

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