User talk:AkankshaG/Archive 1

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Thanks for the nice welcome.Akanksha 04:39, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Rabbits Reviews

Thanks for your help. I already fixed the issue with the logo though by updating the copyright info. As for help with the XBIZ article, just let me know what you need. Maybe you can also check out an article that I just put online as well for Rabbits Reviews. Thx. MelissaKoznuk (talk) 17:00, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Non Free Images in you User Space

Hey there AkankshaG, thank you for your contributions! I am a bot alerting you that Non-free images are not allowed in the user or talk-space. I removed some images that I found on User:AkankshaG/sandbox. In the future, please refrain from adding fair-use images to your user-space drafts or your talk page. See a log of images removed today here, shutoff the bot here and report errors here. Thank you, -- DASHBot (talk) 00:58, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your interest, but you should know that that space is a sandbox, which has been used to format an article before placing it into the Wikipedia main space article. I will delete the material, including the photos, from the sandbox once I am satisfied that the mainspace article is finished. I don't know if this message will reach a real human, because a bot left the message -- nevertheless, please recognize that I have no other way to communicate my intentions with respect to the article other than leaving a message for the bot here. If you have another suggestion, I'm all ears. And, as they say on WP, assume good faith. AkankshaG (talk) 19:53, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

AkanksgaG, DashBot acted correctly. Per WP:NFCC #9, the use of non-free images outside of the main article namespace is not permitted. The images it removed are in fact non-free images, and therefore can not be displayed on non-article pages. I'm quite sorry. I recently proposed allowing sandbox spaces an exception to this policy, but that proposal was not accepted. Please continue to develop this sandbox article, but please do not place non-free images on it. If you have questions and concerns about this policy, you might wish to raise the issue at WT:NFC. I've reverted your restoration of the fair use images to the sandbox article and turned the bot back on. Thank you, --Hammersoft (talk) 22:28, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

As the discussion you cite has been closed and archived, I hesitate to reopen the question here. But I will say that I think the question has its genesis in a layperson's misunderstanding of actual copyright practice. Using uncleared material in draft unpublished work is standard practice in the media industry -- you do your mock-ups using pre-cleared work, often seeking a use license while the draft goes back and forth through the editorial process. Once the license clears, you move forward and publish the work. On Wikipedia, a sandbox serves a similar purpose, and our policies should reflect the practical aspect of copyright law which recognize that no cause of action for infringement lies in such pre-publication use of copyrighted work, because such use does not deprive the author of the pecuniary value of his effort. AkankshaG (talk) 06:12, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

• I sympathize with your stance. However, it's important to understand that the editorial process here is out in the open for all to see, as opposed to being contained within a particular office. Google has indexed your sandbox page and is aware of it. So in essence, it's already been "published". If we had a private, behind closed doors work area for each user I'm sure the policy would have no prohibition on the use of non-free media on those pages. But, we don't. I tried to get a variance of the policy, but it was turned down. I disagree with the policy, but I don't think it's a good idea to shut down the bot because I disagree with it. This list, which shows all violations of this policy prohibiting the use of non-free images outside of article space routinely had ~1000 entries on it every day (it's updated daily). Myself and others worked every day to hack away at that total, to no avail. It always hovered between 900 and 1200 violations. It was painfully obvious that a bot was needed because our pool of editors was insufficient to keeping a lid on those violations. The violations cover a broad array of violation types. Many of them are userboxes. Many of them are templates. Many of them are portals. Many of them are root userpages. Many of them are sandbox, development articles. Of those sandbox articles, some of them are quite old, and some are new. I was hoping to get a variance just for the ones that are relatively new and obviously being worked on, but it was shot down. To shut down the bot when it covers so many types of violations because it steps on toes of people working in a small subset of the violations dooms us to never getting a lid on the violations. For a bot, there's no ready way to tell the difference between someone's development article and a personal copy they've made for whatever reason (which happens a fair bit too). The bot needs to continue, and it is properly executing policy. --Hammersoft (talk) 14:33, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I'm not suggesting that the bot be turned off, what I am suggesting is that once the bot operator becomes aware through actual human interaction that there is a problem, that this issue be addressed with human interaction, rather than default deference to a machine that has two modes: 0 and 1. With respect to the publishing issue, there are "do not index" metatags which may be implemented for user pages and user talk pages. It makes sense for the article mainspace to be available to the Google crawler, but opening user space and user talk space to the crawler makes about as much sense as broadcasting the production chatter that takes place between a television engineer and an on-air host. This problem can be fixed with search engine exclusion tags. AkankshaG (talk) 17:11, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

• There hasn't been a true problem yet, but the operator of the bot is certainly open to being communicated with. The "do not index" user space issue was recently debated, with the conclusion that Google would not be prevented from indexing user pages. See Wikipedia:Requests for comment/User page indexing. The default remains; Google indexes userspace. --Hammersoft (talk) 19:24, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
  • Given that user talk pages are not indexed, but user pages are indexed, maybe the solution is to avoid using the User:Username/sandbox page for sandbox editing, and just use the User's sandbox talk page for the editing -- that way, no indexing, and thus no publishing using the practical definition we've discussed here. AkankshaG (talk) 21:06, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

• You'd still have to get WP:NFCC policy changed to permit that. You can make such a request at WT:NFC. --Hammersoft (talk) 21:36, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (File:Sparkbase_screen_capture_sm.png)

Thanks for uploading File:Sparkbase_screen_capture_sm.png. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'file' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Melesse (talk) 07:52, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Please see the talk page for the image in question. AkankshaG (talk) 08:19, 19 February 2010 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Get your balance.png

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Thanks for uploading File:Get your balance.png. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of "file" pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Fred the Oyster (talk) 22:48, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

See SparkBase. AkankshaG (talk) 23:06, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

The article didn't exist at the time the di notice was left. --Fred the Oyster (talk) 23:30, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Radical comics composite.png

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Thank you. DASHBot (talk) 00:36, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

The image is designed to use in a re-draft of the Radical Comics article, which currently is in my sandbox at User:AkankshaG/sandbox in draft form. Wikipedia rules prohibit use of fair-use images on user pages, so it can't be parked there either. The alternative is to create an orphaned image, and then use that image in the article once you go live with the edit, which is what I've done here. I would appreciate it if you would permit me WP:Assume good faith, as required by our rules, and allow me several days to complete the draft. Our rules frown on leaving such warnings and anonymous bot messages on an experienced user's page. If you read the Summary used when the page was uploaded, you would know what the purpose of the image was. Use of bots that ignore that careful work amounts to WP:Disruptive editing. AkankshaG (talk) 01:54, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

I would also note, then, that your efforts appear to fall afoul of our policies on the use of non-free images in list articles and list elements within other articles. It would be inappropriate to use a large number of copyrighted images to illustrate the different works published by this comic company. (ESkog)^(Talk) 16:06, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

The policy page is at Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria. AkankshaG (talk) 16:29, 1 April 2010 (UTC)