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Photographs

Dear Airplanman, We haven’t been talking in a while, but I hope all is well. The reason for this message is that I noticed some time ago some obscenities written below two photographs at wapedia. I thought somebody will take care of this, but it is still there. This is the article from Wikipedia and I don’t know how it happened, so I think, you, as an experienced and good administrator, can investigate the matter and remove the obscenities (obviously somebody vandalized these pages at wapedia). I don’t know if wapedia is a subsidiary of Wikipedia and how can this happen and why. This is the main page: http://wapedia.mobi/en/Dejan_Stojanovi%C4%87

These are the two photographs at (obscene remarks are in red below the standard information): http://wapedia.mobi/en/File:Dejan_Stojanovic,_Chicago.jpg

http://wapedia.mobi/en/File:Dejan_Stojanovic,_1981.jpg I think that other photographs haven’t been vandalized.

I also have found the exact date for the photograph as a child, which is August 1961, not 1962, so it should not be circa 1962 but August 1961.

Best regards and I appreciate your good work. Thanks. Mountlovcen8 (talk) 18:59, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Hello! All is indeed well. How are you? I see you saw these remarks on wapedia. They aren't present in their respective Wikipedia files, however, and I could not find evidence of vandalism in the files' histories:
I will contact User:Tiptoety about this since he's being targeted (I would remove the obscenities if I could just figure out how to). I've fixed the image description and caption accordingly for File:Dejan Stojanovic 21.jpg. Best, Airplaneman ✈ 19:16, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

I am well. Thanks. Maybe you will be able to figure out this since it is very bizarre. I also forgot to tell you that there is an article about the footballer (with the same name, except the last letter – c, without a little sign above it) and I think that disambiguation is either not done or not done properly so many links that should not lead to the article about him lead there. Maybe the word footballer should be added to establish the distinction between the two articles with the same name. Like this, there is confusion. Best, Mountlovcen8 (talk) 20:42, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm out of ideas for how to fix the defamatory words on the images from wapedia, but I think I know what to do for the problem with Dejan Stojanovic and Dejan Stojanović. As explained here, if there is no primary topic, the ambiguous page should be made a disambiguation, with the other two pages having disambiguators added. I don't see a clear primary topic (even though one article is much more substantial than the other). If you disagree, I'll go about reversing my damage :) which shouldn't be too hard. The names Dejan Stojanović (writer) and Dejan Stojanović (footballer) seem reasonable. The page Dejan Stojanovic will then redirect to Dejan Stojanović. I'll set to work on getting this straightened out. Airplaneman ✈ 17:22, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Marking articles students are working on

Howdy, Online Ambassador!

This is a quick message to all the ambassadors about marking and tracking which articles students are working on. For the classes working with the ambassador program, please look over any articles being worked on by students (in particular, any ones you are mentoring, but others who don't have mentors as well) and do these things:

  1. Add {{WAP assignment | term = Spring 2011 }} to the articles' talk pages. (The other parameters of the {{WAP assignment}} template are helpful, so please add them as well, but the term = Spring 2011 one is most important.)
  2. If the article is related to United States public policy, make sure the article the WikiProject banner is on the talk page: {{WikiProject United States Public Policy}}
  3. Add Category:Article Feedback Pilot (a hidden category) to the article itself. The second phase of the Article Feedback Tool project has started, and this time we're trying to include all of the articles students are working on. Please test out the Article Feedback Tool, as well. The new version just deployed, so any bug reports or feedback will be appreciated by the tech team working on it.

And of course, don't forget to check in on the students, give them constructive feedback, praise them for positive contributions, award them {{The WikiPen}} if they are doing excellent work, and so on. And if you haven't done so, make sure any students you are mentoring are listed on your mentor profile.

Thanks! --Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 18:10, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

My Twizzllaa page has been deleted.

Hello Airplaneman (: My name is Saif Abu-Shakra, You deleted my page that I created few hours ago. I spent alot of time learning the methods of making it, and at the proccess i kept saving but it gets deleted. I dont know the reason for why my page has been deleted, maybe because it was not complete and considered not worthy. The truth is, im a local rapper in Jordan and really known to people here, I have my own Music Page on Facebook and I have allot of songs posted on it, and the reason I'm making a Wiki page is because i want fans and people to be able to know me better easily, by posting everythin on Wikipedia regarding that its a famous information website. I don't know how the process goes but I wish you would give me the chance of makin my page on Wikipedia. Thanks alot Saif abushakra (talk) 22:18, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi Saif, I'm sorry to say that the subject you're writing about (yourself) doesn't seem to meet the biography notability criteria. In addition, it also sounds like you want to post to promote yourself, which is unacceptable on this site because it's an encyclopedia, not a directory. You can't use Wikipedia to gain additional exposure; that's just not how it works. I apologize if I come across as harsh; the truth is, I'm a guy who is also very into music (I have a few compositions on the web if you want to stalk me creepily and find them :D). To sum it up, Wikipedia isn't the right place right now. I wish you the best in your musical career, Airplaneman ✈ 22:55, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll do it

Thanks for your information, Airplaneman. I've been thinking of getting active on wikipedia again during this week, and my interest in wikipedia hasn't gone yet. I stopped editing cause I had a hell lot of homework back then and I didn't have time to do it. Hopefully, I will be able to de-stub the article by the end of this month. :) By the way, there have been rumors that the Hong Kong Sinfonietta is currently facing a financial crisis. I am a violinist ♫ talk to me here! 01:19, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Would this be a reliable source? http://www.hkcg.org/iscm_site/hks.html I am a violinist ♫ talk to me here! 14:32, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

P.S. Can you give me a copy of the deleted article as a reference? I am a violinist ♫ talk to me here! 15:10, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Hmm the old article was basically a huge copyright violation, so it'd be better to start form scratch. The reference is reliable, although it'd also be good to find third-party sources as well. Airplaneman ✈ 14:27, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Thanks for protecting my talk page. Not sure why that user was so angry. He was making obvious vandalism on the main articles. Once again thank you!Golgofrinchian (talk) 03:15, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
Thanks :) - and no problem! There are a lot of trolls with nothing better to do out there in the interwebz, sadly. Cheers, Airplaneman ✈ 03:31, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Eddie Benitez

Hello... I am the original editor of the article Eddie Benitez and I am Eddie Benitez. I am not sure if I have processed the deletion nomination correctly, the page is very confusing. I am requesting you do that on my behalf. Over the past week, there are 2 IDs - Angelsonmystage and Westwind77 that has been putting false information and slanderous statements in the entry. I do not wish for any future edits to take place, the article has been butchered and I do not have the time to monitor this article daily. Please let me know how we can remove this entry immediately and block my name for future entries. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tiaramusic (talk • contribs) 12:54, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Deletion procedures

Hi Airplaneman! I remember that for PROD, if someone de-PRODs it, it cannot be re-PRODed. I can't quite remember if there was a similar thing for Speedy deletion, though. I know authors aren't supposed to remove speedy tags, but if someone else removes it, are we allowed to re-speedy tag it? Brambleclawx 18:10, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

CSD, in a nutshell, is for uncontroversial deletions. If someone besides the author disagrees (and they're not the author's sockpuppet/meatpuppet...) then it would be better to go with PROD or AfD because there is apparent controversy from the contested speedy. Airplaneman ✈ 21:52, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Ok. What would you do though, if an IP address user removes the CSD tag (I can't tell if it's just the author logged out)? Brambleclawx 21:59, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Since you can only assume that the IP is another user, it's best to go the AfD route; however, if they remove it without explanation (this goes for any user, not just IPs) try asking for one, because removing a CSD tag without an explanation is borderline disruptive in my opinion. Airplaneman ✈ 22:06, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the user page revert

I only just noticed, it was a few days ago. I appreciate it, so thanks. --John (talk) 05:07, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

No problem; just doing my job :). Best, Airplaneman ✈ 03:34, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia Ambassador Program Newsletter: 21 March 2011



This is the third issue of the Wikipedia Ambassador Program Newsletter, with details about what's going on right now and where help is needed.


Delivered by EdwardsBot (talk) 22:20, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Can you please userfy Air Ambulance Card, LLC

Hi Airplaneman- I'm hoping this one might interest you. I wrote an article about a medical evacuation membership company that relied almost exclusively on highly credible third party sources (New York Times, Wall Street Journal, US News and World Report.) I am happy to revise it to address any concerns, but need it userfied first. Any help would be appreciated. You can also email me directly at atticusrominger [at] gmail.com.

Thanks! Atticusrominger (talk) 14:25, 22 March 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atticusrominger (talk • contribs) 14:05, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi! I'm hesitant to userfy it because it looks like part of the reason it was deleted was because it was (or parts of it were) a copyright violation. It may be better to start from scratch here. Best, Airplaneman ✈ 14:33, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

You deleted page on Miles Batty

Miles Batty is a world class runner and was the NCAA Track Athlete of the year. For track people it is like Football's Heisman Trophy.

Miles Batty is an NCAA champion runner. He has run a sub-4 minute mile. Is the national track athlete of the year. National Track Athlete of the Year - Source

Please correct the deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wyorunner (talk • contribs) 20:36, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Looks like you corrected it already :). Airplaneman ✈ 21:49, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Libya

I noticed you placed it under protection. However I wanted to add some reference on the libya page to the following article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Manmade_River

Not many are aware that under the rule of Qadaffi something good like this has been build. Eventho the actions done by the UN/NATO might have damage the great_manmade_river, it should at the very least be referenced and mentioned on the libya page. Ironically the great_man_made_river supposedly should be finished at Benghazi, the place of the uprising.

Regards,

xfuturex — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xfuturex (talk • contribs) 15:04, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi, there seems to be a mention of this topic in the "Economy" subsection of the article; however, as you mentioned, it's not referenced. Adding more details seems counterproductive at this point because the article is already so large, but if you have a good reference in mind, I'll add it for you. Regards, Airplaneman ✈ 05:07, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Article on Statistical Software Company

Hello! I just wanted to check: did you ever have a chance to do a final review of the article at my sub-page (/"Stat-Ease, Inc.")? If so, do you think it's ready to be posted to the main page? By the way, thank you for all your help with this and my other articles. You have no idea how grateful I am!Michael Leeman (talk) 16:16, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

Per your message at my Talk page today, I have moved the Stat-Ease, Inc. article to the main space. (Thank you so much for your help with the story!) However, now there is a "This is a new unreviewed article" template at the top of the page, although you have already reviewed the article. Is this template something that you can remove? Thank you very much!Michael Leeman (talk) 16:57, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for removing the template! I see you'll be out from April 6 - 11. Have a safe trip! And thank you once more for all the help you've given me.Michael Leeman (talk) 20:13, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

WP:NASCAR Newsletter (March 2011)

Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of Wikiproject NASCAR at 00:02, 25 March 2011 (UTC).

Request for second pair of eyes

Hi again Airplaneman, sorry to bother you. Steuart Campbell is a writer on UFOs and other related topics. A few years ago he emailed me to ask me to expand his article as I had told him he could not ethically edit it himself. He recently requested that I remove certain information from his article. I saw no harm in doing so and complied. Can you please review what I did? I made a brief note in talk, so you could comment there, here, or at my talk, I don't mind. Thanks in advance. --John (talk) 03:29, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Seems fine (details on the talk page). Best, Airplaneman ✈ 05:00, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for the speedy review. --John (talk) 05:03, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Online Ambassador mentor request

Hello,

I saw your interest and thought you might be a perfect match for my article. I plan to update green house gas emission threshold standards under the California Environmental Quality Act as part of our environmental law class. If you have any room, please let me know!

Thanks,

Brandon Liddell (talk) 05:14, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi Brandon, I'm not ready for the additional time commitment. Sorry :(. I prefer to edit casually whenever I feel like it, and two mentees are already pushing the limit for me. Real life doesn't allow me to be on for many hours per week consistently. Again, I apologize. Happy editing, Airplaneman ✈ 00:25, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your response! Brandon — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brandon Liddell (talk • contribs) 04:27, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks

...for unprotecting that old PC poll page. I should probably have just asked you directly; I was lazy, and used twinkle 'RPP'. Anyway - thanks.  Chzz  ►  10:14, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

No problem. :) Airplaneman ✈ 00:25, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

A genuine gift

Because I have interacted with you, and many like minded, there is no room for regret for things I have attempted. I have observed some of the finest, well thought discourse, possible of human interaction. Just knowing there are these ones like you, where I can ask for a well reasoned response, gives all the fulfillment I could have hoped for. And enough reason that I should stay. I thank you for that, and all that it rightfully implies. Best regards. My76Strat (talk) 02:29, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Also, any mention of ambiguity is not related to your very clear, well thought, presentation. Simply that there is a remaining voice that currently sees more wrong in my manner than the manner I had asked to be clarified. Yours was quite unambiguous. Thank you for that. My76Strat (talk) 04:18, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

You're certainly welcome. It pains me to see editors being treated badly, and I'll try my best to fix that. Best, Airplaneman ✈ 14:20, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Bob's Burgers

Why did you full protect? There wasn't any discussion for 6 days, so therefore it looks like the consensus was to not include. You and I both know pointless, unsourced trivia does not belong on Wikipedia. It's these disruptive IPs who can't seem to understand how this works, even when you point out policies to them. CTJF83 12:02, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Any explanation. CTJF83 11:26, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
I didn't feel that clear consensus was established about what to do with the section. Continuously reverting each other isn't helpful and I thought full-protection would be best to promote discussion from both parties. Airplaneman ✈ 14:11, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Kounterfeit Change

You currently deleted the post about Kounterfeit Change and I believe they meet the standards of Wiki. They have 2 current songs (Rock Your Body and 4:19) in movie Miles From Home as well as 2 songs (War & Crime & 4:19) on steady rotation on KROQ. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kfchange420 (talk • contribs) 19:27, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Disambiguation

Dear Airplanman, I thank you for your cooperation and willingness to unselfishly help always. Still, in regard to disambiguation of an article, I think there was a little misunderstanding. You mentioned, you would be willing to revert it considering potential damage. And there is some damage that cannot be repaired by simply fixing the links. First, I would like to clarify my idea: If there is an already established article and there is another, new article, which is not even a stub but only one sentence article, there can be no comparison between the two; also, the other article is an orphan, only benefiting in various ways from an older article. But this is not even the whole point or main point. Two articles had, technically, two different names. Even in the original transcription, for instance, in Macedonian, this is what it looks like -- Дејан Стојановиќ (there is a kind of letter k, with a sign above it in the end). If this were the only problem, I would only reverse everything and there would be less damage that way, but the problem is that sooner or later, since this is a very popular name, there will be some new articles with the same name. Since one article has been already established for some time, there is no reason to further damage that article, while on the other hand, it doesn’t help other articles. I think, we should use common sense and use the discretionary right (which you must have as an administrator) to do what is best, which would be, if you agree, to modify the disambiguation page to contain the word disambiguation in the brackets, like this page, for example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_Taylor_(disambiguation)

Then, to revert the article about the writer to its original name, without writer in the brackets. Regarding the footballer, since that name did not have a sign above c, I would keep the original name, without the sign above c, but would still add – footballer in the brackets, because that article was producing so many problems and confusion. If we do it like this, a real and already established article will not be damaged by further confusion, and potential new articles will be created with the addition of any applicable title or description following the name. No article will be damaged, and the original article will not have to suffer consequences. As it is now, there was already a huge drop in reading and there are many things which are impossible to fix and I would not like to go into details and bother you with them but there is considerable damage. I think, this is perfectly legitimate way not to damage one article but to accomplish the same purpose while not damaging any article in fact. If the articles were written at the same time and there were no history, it would have been a different story.

Also, regarding the musician (drummer), please keep in mind that even if article about him is written it will still be Dejan Stojanovic Kera, and the third name Kera already serves a purpose of disambiguation in a way. I think you would agree to this and possible fix it in a proposed way so that one article doesn’t suffer consequences for no real reason while nobody benefits. Thanks. Mountlovcen8 (talk) 19:04, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi Mountlovcen8, thanks for the explanation. To help prevent further confusion, I think I'll ask for another pair of eyes on this matter. As I understand it, you would like to move Dejan Stojanović (writer) to Dejan Stojanović because it is the primary topic and Dejan Stojanović (footballer) to Dejan Stojanovic (as I understand it, however, his name has a "ć" in it, not a "c"). Therefore, it would be necessary to move Dejan Stojanović to Dejan Stojanović (disambiguation). Airplaneman ✈ 13:37, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

Amy Adams

I'm not trying to come off as rude but, there are PLENTY of other actors/actresses who have films that are in pre-production listed in their filmogragy such as Henry Cavill, Kevin Costner, Zack Snyder, Daniel Craig along with Judi Dench in Bond 23, and Simon Pegg has two movies listed that have only been "announced" and aren't anywhere near pre-production. I don't see those pages being edited. I think I've made my point. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Derek.Evans82 (talk • contribs) 04:29, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Yes, indeed you have. Airplaneman ✈ 23:47, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Baseball

Hi Airplaneman. I've been inevitably watching BaseballWatcher's work because there is a current drive to improve New Page Patrolling. This user is very enthusiastic but is not getting things quite right, although they've been gently pointed in the right direction many times. Any suggestions you can make would be most welcome. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:17, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

If I have any ideas, I'll be sure to drop by his talk page. Thanks for the message, Airplaneman ✈ 14:17, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject Wikfiy's April Drive

WikiCup 2011 March newsletter

We are half way through round two of the WikiCup, which will end on 28 April. Of the 64 current contestants, 32 will make it through to the next round; the two highest in each pool, and the 16 next highest scorers. At the time of writing, our current overall leader is Zanzibar Hurricanehink (submissions) with 231 points, who leads Pool H. Poland Piotrus (submissions) (Pool G) also has over 200 points, while 9 others (three of whom are in Pool D) have over 100 points. Remember that certain content (specifically, articles/portals included in at least 20 Wikipedias as of 31 December 2010 or articles which are considered "vital") is worth double points if promoted to good or featured status, or if it appears on the main page in the Did You Know column. There were some articles last round which were eligible for double points, but which were not claimed for. For more details, see Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring.

A running total of claims can be seen here. However, numerous competitors are yet to score at all- please remember to submit content soon after it is promoted, so that the judges are able to review entries. The number of points that will be needed to reach round three is not clear- everyone needs to get their entries in now to guarantee their places! If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, and you hope to get it promoted before the end of the round, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn and The ed17 00:50, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

New Article About ESI Group

Hello Airplaneman! I just posted a new article at my sub-page (/ESI Group). Can you please review it when you have a chance and let me know what you think? Thanks!Michael Leeman (talk) 16:08, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Did You Know Nominations

Hello Airplaneman!

I was wondering if you had any other suggestions for the Industrial Hemp Farming Act of 2009. I was also wondering if you could help me nominate it for the "Did You Know" section? I think I only have 2-3 more days to post it. Let me know! Thanks 76.28.118.47 (talk) 21:19, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

New Article Suggestion

Hello, I am User: Billim1. I noticed that some NOAA Weather Radio Stations in the U.S. have there own article. For example, KXI91 and WXJ55, but there is another weather radio station in the Central Arkansas area that doesn't have it's own article. I was wondering if you or someone here at Wikipedia can please start the article for NOAA Weather Radio All Hazards Station KXI96. It can be simply be called "KXI96". It is weather radio station out of Russell, Arkansas, and covers White County (Arkansas) and adjacent areas. I think i've tried doing it before, but it was unsuccessful. So like I said, I need you (or someone else here at Wikipedia, to start the "KXI96" article. If you guys do, here are some links to the help start the article:

Thank you very much. Please respond back to me if possible! Billim1 (talk) 14:12, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

As I said about 3 months ago here, I put the article at User:Billim1/KXI96. My thoughts about the article are in my previous response as well. I'll see what I can do. Best, Airplaneman ✈ 14:37, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Protection conflict

Lol, RfPP is too fun! :) /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 23:51, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Haha, oops! I usually default to the first protection as a rule of thumb and have restored the 72h protection :) Airplaneman ✈ 23:55, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

David Choi

Yep... consider it withdrawn. Cheers Catfish Jim & the soapdish 23:58, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

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