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Ichthus July 2019


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July 2019
The Top 6 Articles
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A suicide attack on July 11th claimed by Islamic State (IS) near a church in the Syrian city of Qamishli shows that Christians remain a major target of the terror group. The Top 6 most popular articles about People in WikiProject Christianity were:

    1. Henry VIII of EnglandKing of England, He was an accomplished musician, author, and poet; his known piece of music is "Pastime with Good Company". He is often reputed to have written "Greensleeves" but probably did not. He had six marriages.
    2. Elena Cornaro Piscopia – was a Venetian philosopher of noble descent who in 1678 became one of the first women to receive an academic degree from a university, and the first to receive a Doctor of Philosophy degree. In 1669, she translated the Colloquy of Christ by Carthusian monk Lanspergius from Spanish into Italian.
    3. Mary, Queen of Scots – arrested for Reigning While Catholic (RWC), Mary was found guilty of plotting to assassinate Elizabeth I of England in 1586, and was beheaded the following year.
    4. Bob Dylan – American singer-songwriter, author, and visual artist.
      " Take care of all your memories. For you cannot relive them."
    5. Elizabeth I of England – The Virgin Queen, Elizabeth was the last of the five monarchs of the House of Tudor who ushered in the Elizabethan Era, reversed re-establishment of Roman Catholicism by her half-sister.
    6. Billy Ray Cyrus – Having released 12 studio albums and 44 singles since 1992, he is best known for his number one single "Achy Breaky Heart", which became the first single ever to achieve triple Platinum status in Australia.
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Eric and Leslie Ludy were 21 and 16 respectively when they first met, English professors suggest that older singles are unlikely to gather hope from their story.
Eric and Leslie Ludy were 21 and 16 respectively when they first met, English professors suggest that older singles are unlikely to gather hope from their story.

When God Writes Your Love Story: The Ultimate Approach to Guy/Girl Relationships is a 1999 book by Eric and Leslie Ludy, an American married couple. After becoming a bestseller on the Christian book market, the book was republished in 2004 and then revised and expanded in 2009. It tells the story of the authors' first meeting, courtship, and marriage. The authors advise single people not to be physically or emotionally intimate with others, but to wait for the spouse that God has planned for them.

The book is divided into five sections and sixteen chapters. Each chapter is written from the perspective of one of the two authors; nine are by Eric, while Leslie wrote seven, as well as the introduction. The Ludys argue that one's love life should be both guided by and subordinate to one's relationship with God. Leslie writes that God offers new beginnings to formerly unchaste or sexually abused individuals. (more...)

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Dear Adamfinmo, I wonder what caused you to label my final warning here as "false"? The user has received three level 3 warnings about adding unsourced text, as well as two warnings about creating unsourced articles and a fairly long very personalised post (which was not phrased as a warning) that very explicitly said that they must start using sources, and that they also need to start communicating. Of course the issue is adding sources, just as you say, but may I ask how you propose the user, who has been adding incorrect information to at least a dozen different pages, should be made to change their ways when they clearly do not understand what the issues are and don't read the information they are given, due to a huge language gap? I am no fan of calling good-faith editors "vandals" and I understand that the heavy-handedness of other editors who have worked with 서덕민 can lead to frustrated feelings all around, but disruptive editing due to CIR issues can lead to blocks, and to my mind it would not be fair to 서덕민 to refrain from warning them when their lack of competence leads to disruption. They have not made one single edit that hasn't been reverted, by at least half a dozen different editors (so it's not a question of one or two people following them around, either.

Apologies for the wall of text, but being accused of posting "false" warnings is... surprising, to say the least. --bonadea contributions talk 19:19, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

I struck it my apologies. —AdamF in MO (talk) 19:25, 5 November 2019 (UTC)


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  • Is it just me, or does it seem like the above editor is thanking every editor who has even a civil disagreement with me, regardless of whether he himself had any involvement therein? Hijiri 88 (やや) 02:44, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

No fighting in front of the kids, friends. —AdamF in MO (talk) 03:19, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

I have told Adamstom.97 multiple times over the last four years (most recently here) that I would love to improve these articles to GA quality, as I did for example with Ariwara no Narihira and Li He (two articles requiring much greater care to use high-quality, scholarly sources -- an issue not facing these articles), but every time I made even a piecemeal edit to one of them, Adam (or one of two other editors I won't name) auto-reverted me without explanation, and refused to engage in constructive discussion on the talk page.

This situation changed slightly when I noticed about a year ago that substantial textual plagiarism (as opposed to overquotation) issues in several of the articles. Adam initially denied that the plagiarism existed, including following me around and casting aspersions in edit summaries, but later stopped editing for a long time, as I did (or at least heavily cut back) for unrelated reasons. I am basically only back now to contribute to Wikipedia Asian Month, which I have already told Adam makes this a suboptimal time for me to talk about superhero movies: either it's an unfortunate coincidence and he should just drop it for a few weeks, or, knowing that I'd been heavily involved in WAM since 2016, he deliberately timed this, either to have an excuse to push through changes without my involvement and/or insinuate that I am hypocritical/lazy as he did here and here or to prevent me from writing all the WAM articles I would like to.

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Ichthus December 2019

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December 2019
The Top 3 Articles

By Stalinsunnykvj

The Top 3 most popular articles about People in WikiProject Christianity were:

    1. Dolly Parton - an American singer, songwriter, multi-instrumentalist, record producer, actress, author, businesswoman, and humanitarian, known primarily for her work in country music. Quotations related to Dolly Parton at Wikiquote: " I just depend on a lot of prayer and meditation. I believe that without God I am nobody, but that with God, I can do anything."
    2. Harriet Tubman - an American abolitionist and political activist. Born into slavery, she escaped and made some missions to rescue enslaved people, using the network of antislavery activists and Underground Railroads. During the American Civil War, she served as an armed scout, spy for the Union Army.
    3. Henry VIII of EnglandKing of England, He was an accomplished musician, author, and poet; his known piece of music is "Pastime with Good Company". He is often reputed to have written "Greensleeves" but probably did not. He had six marriages.
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  • ... that St. Charles College in Louisiana was the first Jesuit college established in the southern United States?
  • ... that the ancient Jewish text of Perek Shirah asserts that spiders and rats praise God using verses from Psalm 150?
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Being a Ghost Story of Christmas, commonly known as A Christmas Carol, is a novella by Charles Dickens, first published in London by Chapman & Hall in 1843 and illustrated by John Leech. The book is divided into five chapters, which Dickens titled "staves". A Christmas Carol recounts the story of Ebenezer Scrooge, an elderly miser who is visited by the ghost of his former business partner Jacob Marley and the spirits of Christmas Past, Present and Yet to Come. After their visits, Scrooge is transformed into a kinder, gentler man. (more...)

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Romans 12:10 New King James Version (NKJV)

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Ichthus January 2020

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January 2020
The Top 3 Articles

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The Top 3 most-popular articles about People in WikiProject Christianity were:

    1. Pope Benedict XVI – retired prelate of the Catholic Church who served as head of the Church and sovereign of the Vatican City State from 2005 until his resignation.
    2. Pope Francis – the head of the Catholic Church and sovereign of the Vatican City State. Francis is the first Jesuit pope, the first from the Americas, the first from the Southern Hemisphere, and the first pope from outside Europe since the Syrian Gregory III, who reigned in the 8th century.
    3. Dolly Parton – an American singer, songwriter, multi-instrumentalist, record producer, actress, author, businesswoman, and humanitarian, known primarily for her work in country music. Quotations related to Dolly Parton at Wikiquote: "I just depend on a lot of prayer and meditation. I believe that without God I am nobody, but that with God, I can do anything."
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Сретение Господне ("The Meeting of the Lord"), a depiction of Simeon recognising Jesus at the Temple, from a fifteenth-century Novgorodskye School Russian icon.
Сретение Господне ("The Meeting of the Lord"), a depiction of Simeon recognising Jesus at the Temple, from a fifteenth-century Novgorodskye School Russian icon.

A Song for Simeon, is a 37-line poem written in 1928 by American-English poet T. S. Eliot (1888–1965). It is one of five poems that Eliot contributed to the Ariel poems series of 38 pamphlets by several authors published by Faber and Gwyer. "A Song for Simeon" was the sixteenth in the series and included an illustration by avant garde artist Edward McKnight Kauffer. The poem's narrative echoes the text of the Nunc dimittis, a liturgical prayer for Compline from the Gospel passage. Eliot introduces literary allusions to earlier writers Lancelot Andrewes, Dante Alighieri and St. John of the Cross. Critics have debated whether Eliot's depiction of Simeon is a negative portrayal of a Jewish figure and evidence of anti-Semitism on Eliot's part. (more...)

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Psalm 20:4 New King James Version (NKJV)

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"Faith lived in the incognito is one which is located outside the criticism coming from society, from politics, from history, for the very reason that it has itself the vocation to be a source of criticism. It is faith (lived in the incognito) which triggers the issues for the others, which causes everything seemingly established to be placed in doubt, which drives a wedge into the world of false assurances."
~ Jacques Ellul
French philosopher, sociologist, and professor who was a noted Christian anarchist.
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@Pontificalibus: Please do not edit war by reintroducing a disputed edit, friend. Please follow the BRD cycle and discuss disputed edits on the talk page. The URL is quite clear in the graphic in the info box. Redundant linking in the box doesn't add any content. --AdamF in MO (talk) 06:28, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
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@Alexis Jazz: Thank you. I was never even close to the 3rr rule, but I thank you for your help. I was certainly not behaving in the best interests of the project. —AdamF in MO (talk) 18:45, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Please be aware of this part from WP:3RR: Even without a 3RR violation, an administrator may still act if they believe a user's behavior constitutes edit warring, and any user may report edit warring with or without 3RR being breached. The rule is not an entitlement to revert a page a specific number of times.
You did 7 reverts, the fact that this happened over the course of several days wouldn't have mattered in this case. I'm happy to see you understand your approach wasn't optimal, so I'm sure you'll find better ways to resolve a dispute next time. - Alexis Jazz 00:59, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
@Alexis Jazz: The terrorism trolling was already mentioned at ANI, but it was ignored. No admin found useful to sanction Adam there either. —PaleoNeonate – 00:04, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

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