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GOCE 2011 Year-End Report[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors 2011 Year-End Report

We have reached the end of the year, and what a year it has been! The Guild of Copy Editors was full of activity, and we achieved numerous important milestones in 2011. Read all about these in the Guild's 2011 Year-End Report.

Highlights
  • Membership grows to 764 editors, an increase of 261
  • Report on coordinators' elections
  • Around 1,000 articles removed through six Backlog elimination drives
  • Guild Plans for 2012
  • Requests page report
  • Sign up for the January 2012 Backlog elimination drive!


Get your copy of the Guild's 2011 Year-End Report here
On behalf of the Guild, we take this opportunity to wish you Season's Greetings and Happy New Year. We look forward to your support in 2012!
– Your 2011 Coordinators: Diannaa (lead), The Utahraptor, and Slon02 and SMasters (emeritus).

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Re: Polly Draper[edit]

Sorry for the late response I've been somewhat busy outside Wikipedia. If you're still interested in me copy-editing the Polly Draper article let me know and I'll see to it I do it as soon as possible. :) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 19:20, 1 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanx, I'd appreciate it if you could! ATC . Talk 22:50, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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GOCE March copy edit drive[edit]

Invitation from the Guild of Copy Editors

The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in their March 2012 Backlog elimination drive, a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on March 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on March 31 at 23:59 (UTC). Our goal for the drive will be to eliminate the remaining 2010 articles from the queue. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits more than 4,000 words, and special awards will be given to the top 5 in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", and "Number of articles of over 5,000 words". We hope to see you there! – Your drive coordinators: Dank, Diannaa, Stfg, and Coordinator emeritus SMasters. 19:25, 20 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Your invitation to participate in a Wikimedia-approved survey in online behavior.[edit]

Hello, my name is Michael Tsikerdekis[1][2], currently involved as a student in full time academic research at Masaryk University. I am writing to you to kindly invite you to participate in an online survey about interface and online collaboration on Wikipedia. The survey has been reviewed and approved by the Wikimedia Foundation Research Committee.

I am contacting you because you were randomly selected from a list of active editors. The survey should take about 7 to 10 minutes to complete, and it is very straightforward.

Wikipedia is an open project by nature. Let’s create new knowledge for everyone! :-)

To take part in the survey please follow the link: tsikerdekis.wuwcorp.com/pr/survey/?user=87684476 (HTTPS).

Best Regards, --Michael Tsikerdekis (talk) 11:53, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

PS: The results from the research will become available online for everyone and will be published in an open access journal. As a thank you for your efforts and participation in Wikipedia Research you will receive a Research Participation Barnstar after the end of the study.

UPDATE: This is the second and final notification for participating in this study. Your help is essential for having concrete results and knowledge that we all can share. I would like to thank you for your time and as always for any questions, comments or ideas do not hesitate to contact me. PS: As a thank you for your efforts and participation in Wikipedia Research you will receive a Research Participation Barnstar after the end of the study. --Michael Tsikerdekis (talk) 13:19, 16 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE March drive newsletter[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 backlog elimination drive update

GOCE March 2012 Backlog Elimination progress graphs

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors March 2012 Backlog elimination drive! Here's the mid-drive newsletter.

Participation: We have had 58 people sign up for this drive so far, which compares favorably with our last drive, and 27 have copy-edited at least one article. If you have signed up but have not yet copy-edited any articles, please consider doing so. Every bit helps! If you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Join us!

Progress report: Our target of completing the 2010 articles has almost been reached, with only 56 remaining of the 194 we had at the start of the drive. The last ones are always the most difficult, so thank you if you are able to help copy-edit any of the remaining articles. We have reduced the total backlog by 163 articles so far.

Special thanks: Special thanks to Stfg, who has been going through the backlog and doing some preliminary vetting of the articles—removing copyright violations, doing initial clean-up, and nominating some for deletion. This work has helped make the drive a more pleasant experience for all our volunteers.

Your drive coordinators – Dianna (talk), Stfg (talk), and Dank (talk)

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Research Participation Barnstar
For your participation in the survey for Anonymity and conformity on the internet. Michael Tsikerdekis (talk) 08:20, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE May mid-drive newsletter[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors May 2012 backlog elimination drive mid-drive newsletter

Participation: Out of 49 people signed up for this drive so far, 26 have copy-edited at least one article. It's a smaller group than last drive, but we're making good progress. If you've signed up but haven't yet copy-edited any articles, please consider doing so. Every bit helps! If you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Join us!

Progress report: We're on track to meet our targets for the drive, largely due to the efforts of Lfstevens and the others on the leaderboard. Thanks to all. We have reduced our target group of articles—January, February, and March 2011—by over half, and it looks like we will achieve that goal. Good progress is being made on the overall backlog as well, with over 500 articles copy-edited during the drive so far. The total backlog currently sits at around 3200 articles.

Hall of Fame: GOCE coordinator Diannaa was awarded a spot in the GOCE Hall of Fame this month! She has copy-edited over 1567 articles during these drives, and surpassed the 1,000,000-word mark on May 5. On to the second million! – Your drive coordinators: Dank, Diannaa and Stfg

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GOCE May mid-drive newsletter[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors May 2012 backlog elimination drive mid-drive newsletter

Participation: Out of 49 people signed up for this drive so far, 26 have copy-edited at least one article. It's a smaller group than last drive, but we're making good progress. If you've signed up but haven't yet copy-edited any articles, please consider doing so. Every bit helps! If you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Join us!

Progress report: We're on track to meet our targets for the drive, largely due to the efforts of Lfstevens and the others on the leaderboard. Thanks to all. We have reduced our target group of articles—January, February, and March 2011—by over half, and it looks like we will achieve that goal. Good progress is being made on the overall backlog as well, with over 500 articles copy-edited during the drive so far. The total backlog currently sits at around 3200 articles.

Hall of Fame: GOCE coordinator Diannaa was awarded a spot in the GOCE Hall of Fame this month! She has copy-edited over 1567 articles during these drives, and surpassed the 1,000,000-word mark on May 5. On to the second million! – Your drive coordinators: Dank, Diannaa and Stfg

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GOCE May drive wrap-up[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors May 2012 backlog elimination drive wrap-up

Participation: Out of 54 people who signed up this drive, 32 copy-edited at least one article. Last drive's superstar, Lfstevens, again stood out, topping the leader board in all three categories and copy-editing over 700 articles. Thanks to all who participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: We were once again successful in our primary goal—removing the oldest three months from the backlog—while removing 1166 articles from the queue, the second-most in our history. The total backlog currently sits at around 2600 articles, down from 8323 when we started out just over two years ago.

Coodinator election: The six-month term for our third tranche of Guild coordinators will be expiring at the end of June. We will be accepting nominations for the fourth tranche of coordinators, who will also serve a six-month term. Nominations will open starting on June 5. For complete information, please have a look at the election page. – Your drive coordinators: Dank, Diannaa, and Stfg

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GOCE July 2012 Copy Edit Drive[edit]

Invitation from the Guild of Copy Editors

The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in their July 2012 Backlog elimination drive, a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on July 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on July 31 at 23:59 (UTC). Our goals are to eliminate the articles tagged in April, May and June 2011 from the queue and to complete all requests placed before the end of June. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits more than 4,000 words, and special awards will be given to the top 6 in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", "Number of articles of over 5,000 words", "Number of articles tagged in April–June 2011", and "Longest article". We hope to see you there! – Your drive coordinators: Dank, Diannaa and Stfg.

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Non-free rationale for File:NBB-Polar Bears.jpg[edit]

Thanks for uploading or contributing to File:NBB-Polar Bears.jpg. I notice the file page specifies that the file is being used under non-free content criteria, but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia is acceptable. Please go to the file description page, and edit it to include a non-free rationale.

If you have uploaded other non-free media, consider checking that you have specified the non-free rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'file' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the file is already gone, you can still make a request for undeletion and ask for a chance to fix the problem. If you have any questions, please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 20:27, 3 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE July 2012 mid-drive newsletter[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors July 2012 backlog elimination drive mid-drive newsletter

Participation: Out of 37 people signed up for this drive so far, 25 have copy-edited at least one article. It's a smaller group than last drive, but we're making good progress. If you've signed up but haven't yet copy-edited any articles, every bit helps; if you haven't signed up yet, it's not too late. Join us!

Progress report: We're almost on track to meet our targets for the drive. Great work, guys. We have reduced our target group of articles—May, June, and July 2011—by about 40%, and the overall backlog has been reduced by 264 articles so far, to around 2500 articles.

Copy Edit of the Month: Starting in August, your best copy-editing work of the month will be eligible for fabulous prizes! See here for details. – Your drive coordinators: Stfg, Allens, and Torchiest.

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GOCE July drive wrap-up[edit]

Guild of Copy Editors July 2012 backlog elimination drive wrap-up

Participation: Out of 45 people who signed up this drive, 31 have copy-edited at least one article. Lfstevens continues to carry most of the weight, having edited 360 articles and over a quarter of a million words already. Thanks to all who have participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, will be available early in August here.

Progress report: We are once again very close to achieving in our primary goal—removing the oldest three months from the backlog. Only 35 such articles remain at press time. The total backlog currently sits at under 2400 articles, down from 8323 when we started out over two years ago. We are just two articles away from completing all requests made before July 2012 (both are in progress).

Copy Edit of the Month: Starting in August, you'll be able to submit your best copy-editing work for palaver, praise, and prizes. See here for details. – Your drive coordinators: Stfg, Allens, and Torchiest.

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American Idol[edit]

Would you mind stop putting details in the lead section that has no relevance to paragraph? The paragraph is about how the winners are voted to be so, other contestants are irrelevant. Important contestants like Jennifer Hudson and Daughtry are already mentioned elsewhere in the lead section, they aren't that important to deserved multiple mentions in the lead. You have to justify why others need to be mentioned, and it is entirely arbitrary, you own opinion of why they deserved to be mentioned. Why not for example Mandisa who has curved out a successful career in Christian music, or Bucky Covington in country music, why not Katharine McPhee who is now a successful TV actress? Why would you think that your criteria would be acceptable by all? That fact that you left out Bo Bice who sold more than Elliot Yamin suggests that the list is entirely arbitrary and your own personal opinion. You will find that fans of all the others will want to put their names in the lead section, and you will have a big mess. This place is full of people who want to list every minute details and people who involved in this show. And please stop trying to bring other irrelevant issues into this. What have I been warned about with regard to this issue? Hzh (talk) 19:58, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, take a look at American Idol alumni album sales. I listed the top-selling artists. For example, Bo Bice has not sold more albums than Elliot Yamin. Also, I see your point and I have a better resolution. Why don't we find a newer source than the one listed as it is old and outdated for where it mentions Jennifer Hudson, Daughtry, Carrie, and Kelly? Adam Lambert, David Archuleta, and Clay Aiken have also become one of the must successful alumni post Idol and are worth mentioning as well. ATC . Talk 22:23, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure what you mean by Bo Bice not selling more albums than Elliot because the page clearly shows he does (746,000 for Bo vs 696,000 for Elliott).
The old quote is useful because: 1) it says why Idol is significant as a show compared to other shows, 2) it establishes that contestants from this shows actually become bona fide stars (i.e. it substantiates the previous statement that it "become a recognized springboard for launching the career of many artists as bona fide stars.") That is the important part as far as the show is concerned, not the name of any particular contestant. As far as I can see, no other non-winner has quite achieved the same level of success as Daughtry and Jennifer Hudson. To me, only Clay Aiken has sold enough, and Adam Lambert has achieved the kind of media attention to be called successful, but that is entirely my opinion, and unfortunately for us, our opinions don't count on this issue. This last paragraph is the most important paragraph because it tells us the significance of show in popular culture, but at the moment, someone can delete most of the last paragraph because it has not been substantiate by anyone that they are indeed "bona-fide stars", you are relying on your own opinion which may not be accepted by others. Your or my or opinion don't matter in this issue, other people who aren't fans of the show would feel they can delete that with good reason because the statement is not substantiate by any sourced quote.
You can of course find another suitable quote that does the same thing that gives more up-to-date name. I don't remember a quote that would serve the same purpose, but you are welcome to try. The important thing is that it should be the opinion of someone (or of some significant news outlet or website) worth quoting, or it'll just be the opinion of nobody that others won't accept, and people will starting listing their favorites in the lead section and soon we'll have an entirely lead section full of names, and we then lose sight of what the lead section is for. Hzh (talk) 23:51, 20 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I found a Billboard chart listing and sourced it. Also you are right my bad! I overlooked Bo Bice! I didn't even think he was up there on the top-selling list! Also, I hope that it doesn't become an issue in the lead of listing favorites. I didn't list Kris Allen who is next after Archuleta on the Billboard list because he has not sold that much albums. See what I added so far and I hope the list doesn't increase! ATC . Talk 01:46, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see that paragraph staying for long. Since the article gives 24 names, the cut-off point is arbitrary, anyone can add more name, and you'll end up with 24 names and perhaps more. The list doesn't showed what's significant about their airplay or album or single sales and what criteria they use for ranking. Kris Allen was so high up presumably because he had a big hit song, but the list was just another person's idea how it should be ranked, and really don't make much sense (Kellie Pickler did better than Kris Allen in every respect but they still list her lower, and in its older list they had William Hung in there).
I don't know why there is an obsession with putting names in there, the article is about the show, the success of its alumni is only significant as it illustrates the show's impact on the popular culture, that would be only reason why people like Jennifer Hudson and Daughtry are mentioned there. It is NOT a place for fans of particular idol to highlight their favorites. In the old version of the page, we get people putting extensive list of achievements of their favorite idol in their post-idol career, and they completely swamped other more important stuff about the show. This listing of names is not really the purpose of this page, the page should give people an overview and understanding of the show, and its place in popular culture. I prefer the previous quote because no one can deny that non-winners like Daughtry and Jennifer Hudson are important alumni, the difficult arise when you talk about other non-winners like David Archuleta, Kellie Picker or Adam Lambert, because different people can use different criteria, and you can get a different list of names. Hzh (talk) 13:06, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well Adam Lambert did become as successful as Daughtry and Jennifer Hudson post the show and are worth mentioning. Kris Allen never became successful post the show. ATC . Talk 00:13, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That, however, is entirely your own opinion. Jennifer Hudson won an Oscar, Adam didn't; Daughtry sold over 6 million albums, Adam only a small fraction of that. Mandisa's last album actually sold more than Adam's, so it can conceivably be argued that Mandisa is more successful now (and will be more successful in the future) if you are only talking about album sales. I would agree that Adam can be considered a star if you consider media buzz, but that isn't how you chose to define success in what you put in the lead section. I have my opinion as to who is or will be successful, but wiki isn't a place for personal opinion, everything that goes in there needs substantiation from independent and acceptable sources. Since the reference given doesn't have a strict criteria for inclusion, 24 names from the reference can in fact go in there, and you have no valid reason to exclude them if someone else (a Kria Allen fan for instance) want to put his Kris' or other people's name in there. You need a better reference than what's currently there. Hzh (talk) 10:03, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well, according to American Idol alumni single sales, they list Kelly as #1, Carrie as #2, Daughtry as #3, Jordin Sparks as #4, and Adam Lambert as #5 which means Lambert is credible to list in the lead. ATC . Talk 23:56, 23 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Again, this is your opinion. Based on singles sales Adam is way behind Jordin Sparks who sold over 10 milllion, he is on the next block of artists selling 3-5 million copies which include Kellie Pickler and Kris Allen. And why singles sale? Why not radio play? Why not career in TV, films and theatre? Why not streaming media? You can have a different list depending on your criteria. It is not for us to pick and choose what we want, wiki is not a place for our personal opinion. Hzh (talk) 13:12, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I moving this to the talk page for other people's opinions. ATC . Talk 22:51, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE news and September drive invitation[edit]

Invitation from the Guild of Copy Editors

The Guild of Copy Editors invites you to participate in its events:

  • The August 2012 Copy Edit of the Month Contest is currently in the submissions stage. Submit your best August copy edit there before the end of the month. Submissions end, and discussion and voting begin, on September 1 at 00:00 (UTC).
  • September 2012 Backlog elimination drive is a month-long effort to reduce the size of the copy edit backlog. The drive begins on September 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and ends on September 30 at 23:59 (UTC). Our goals are to copy edit the articles tagged longest ago and to complete all requests placed before the end of August. Barnstars will be awarded to anyone who copy edits at least one article, and special awards will be given to the top six in the following categories: "Number of articles", "Number of words", "Number of articles of over 5,000 words", "Number of articles tagged longest ago", and "Longest article". This drive features a much easier signup process. We hope to see you there! – Your drive coordinators: Stfg, Allens, and Torchiest.
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Your comment at Wikipedia talk:Templates for discussion[edit]

Hi ATC. Regarding this comment of yours at Wikipedia talk:Templates for discussion, which template were you commenting about? Thanks. DH85868993 (talk) 00:50, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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