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  • The Royal Arms of Great Britain. Warrant of Queen Victoria. [1]: "These badges which appear on the Sovereign’s warrant, are never assigned to any other member of the Royal Family, of whom the Prince of Wales is the only one who rejoices in the possession of officially assigned badges": *York Minster: Royal Harp Badge on McDermott family arms. [2]


Historical cipher-keys[edit]

The history of the HONI SOIT QUI MAL Y PENSE, motto of the Garter, suggests that it was founded, or first used by, the House of Plantagenet in the 14th century, by Edward III in (1348). The history of the DIEU ET MON DROIT motto, suggests it was founded, or first used by, the House of Lancaster in the 15th century, during the reign of Henry V (1413-1422). DIEU ET MON DROIT means God and my right, and also means God and my right hand, which was the motto of George III [3]. In other Heraldic usages, the DIEU ET (on its own) is listed with giving an oath. The MON DROIT (on its own) is quoted as; My right hand. The DROIT (on its own) is quoted as meaning in French; law; a legal title, claim or due.

Further investigations
Little-finger: Right-hand: IN THY WORD IS MY HOPE
Charles I: the Eikon Basilike
Little-finger : Right-hand

King Stephen of England died (1154), almost 200 years before the founding of the Garter (c.1348). King Dermott (Gold Harp), of Ireland died (1171), almost 250 years before the motto was founded (c.1413-22). Further investigation of the DIEU ET MON DROIT motto, suggests it was founded, or first used by, the House of Lancaster in the 15th century, during the reign of King Henry V (1413-1422). This date, unfortunately, bearing no assosiation with the King Dermott of Ireland, who died in (1171). However, according to Herbert Norris, [4] this same motto, was allegedly first used as a password by King Richard I, of the House of Plantagenet in (1198) at the Battle of Gisors, only 27 years after the death of King Dermott. Unfortunately again, the Dermott arms of the Gold Harp, did not appear on the Royal arms until the House of Stuart (1603-1714), during the reign of James I, over 400 years after the death of Dermott.


Mowbray crest on the Garter[edit]

Mowbray crest, as on the Arms of British Columbia
The Mowbrays, as recognised members of the Royal Family.[5]
  • The Royal Crest of a lion on a Crown, above the Garter that encircles the Royal arms, was the Mowbray-family crest.[6]
  • Letters Patent granted to Thomas Mowbray and to his heirs (Earl Marshal): Statute 1397. Earl of Chester: Prince of Wales; Heir Apparent; (titles linked): Statute: 1398 Richard II; Royal Arms inc; Edward the Confessor: Three Lions: (NB: England; Duke of Lancaster & Brotherton ): Two Lions Rampant: Royal Crest: ("of the King"): "Two" Ostrich Feathers:
  • Mowbray Duke of Norfolk: (d.1400): Heraldic Achievements originally outside Doges Palace, Venice: NB: Ref: Doge: "Rank of a Sovereign Prince": Ref: “Three” Ostrich Feathers: [8] NB: The Ostrich feather silver and pen gold is the King’s: A feather all silver is the Prince of Wales: A feather gold and pen ermine is the Duke of Lancaster’s: [9]

Kings Statutes: Letters Patent (C12th)[edit]

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undiffered arms of stewart
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Arms of Stuart of Albany
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Arms of Stuart of Buchan
Arms of Stuart of Buchan
< Mowbray arms
Arms of Stewart of Barclye
Arms of Stewart of Barclye
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Arms of Stewart of Garlies
Arms of Stewart of Garlies
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Arms of Stewart of Minto
Arms of Stewart of Minto
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Arms of Stewart of Ardvorlich
Arms of Stewart of Ardvorlich
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Arms of Stewart of Physgill
Arms of Stewart of Physgill
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Arms of Stewart of Rothesay
Arms of Stewart of Rothesay
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Arms of Stewart of Atholl
Arms of Stewart of Atholl
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Arms of Stuart of Bute
Arms of Stuart of Bute
< Stewart arms

Letters Patent: A written proprietary claim of right granted by a Sovereign to a designated person in a form open for public inspection. [10]
Patent (Disambiguation): A grant to a person conferring right or title: Ingenious or well contrived process:

John I
Statute Letters Patent: (9 John: 1207-08):
  • Mowbray:
  • Letters patent. (1177)): and to his heirs: Bray: (Mow-bray): Dermott: Stephen.
  • (1215): One of the 25 Barons appointed to enforce the provisions of Magna Carta":
  • Grant: Leinster: Connaught: Ulster: Meath: Cork: Limerick: Kerry: Ormond:
  • Grant: Lord of Cork (grant) to Robert Fitz Stephen (1177): Stephen de Longue Espee: (NB: Arms: York Minster ):
  • Grant: Lord of Kerry to Earl of Desmond: (Fitz) Gerald (1450) by descent to Mc Dermot: NB: (Ref: Mc & Mac & Fitz = son of ):
  • Grant: Kingdom of Leinster to Richard de Clare (1172) (Mowbray) Earl of Pembroke (Strongbow) m. Eva da. of Dermot McMorough prince of Leinster; King of Ireland. (1177) William Marshal (Mowbray) Earl of Pembroke; Lord of Leinster [grant 1207].
  • Grant (Henry II]: Lord & Kingdom of Connaught to de Courcey. Earl of Ulster. [Grant 1175] to King of Connaught, [King under Henry II]: Hugh, King of Connaught to King John. [grant 1227] to de Burgh Lord of Connaught. s, Walt Earl of Ulster (1243) via Plantagenet; Mortimer; Mowbray [2nd] Plantagenet: Connaught descent to Edward IV:
Richard II
Statute: (grant):
  • Royal Arms of England: Edward Confessor: Three Lions: Label of three points: (see: Duke of Lancaster: Brotherton).
  • Grant of Arms: Two Lions Rampant: Royal Crest: ("of the King"): Two, and Three Ostrich Feathers:
  • Richard II: Letters Patent (1397) Mowbray (2nd) Plantagenet (1399) descent to Edward IV.
  • Mowbray Earl Marshal: Decree 1398: Earl of Chester: Prince of Wales: Heir apparent: Titles inseperatably linked:
Henry VI
Letters Patent: Palatine Honours: Barony by Writ:
  • Irish Baronage composed exclusively of male heirs of Henry VII: recognised Peers [1489]:
Peers enobled by Letters Patent: Lord-Earl Palatine (cinctus gladio) Ulster: Ulster Earl de Courcey (1181). de Lacy (1205). (Mowbray): de Burgh (1264). Plantagenet (1354-1425). Margaret Brotherton (Wife of John Segrave) Duchess of Norfolk: Lady of Catherlogh - Honour of Carlow: Bigood - (D' Aubigny + Moubray = Royal Scots lion & tressure) (1245). Plantagenet (1306). Segrave (1397). Mowbray (1399).
James I
Letters Patent: Writ of Summons: (His own) Hereditary Scots Peerages:
  • Kingdom of Scots: Angus; Buchan; Caithness; Carrick (McDermott & Mowbray); Fife; Galloway; Mar (McDermott & Mowbray); March (Mowbray).
  • Rockingham Letters Patent; "Illuminated patent by indented Deed dated 1640ad, family patrimony of MacDermot lineage including 389 quarters extending over eight centuries" (Circa 840ad to 1640ad).
James II
Letters Patent: Writ of Summons: (His own) Hereditary Irish Peerages:
  • Ulster (1205) Carrick (McDermott & Mowbray) (1315). Kildare (McDermott) (1316). Louth (1319). Ormond (1328). Desmond (McDermott) (1329). Waterford (1446): NB: King James II; ""expressed words"" that these were his Irish predecessors:

Royal Standards: College of Heralds (MS. 1590):[edit]

Earl of Mar (1875)
Chiefs Standard: Arms: The Scottish Saltire of Scotland: DEMI LION (McDermott[12] in chief, on a Cap of Maintenance ermine (Mowbray[13]) in base:
  • JE PENSE: (Garter motto) A hand from a Cap of Maintenance ermine (Mowbray), couped at the wrist, holding a dagger erect, it’s blade within an Earls coronet in chief: (BADGE: it’s blade within the word PENSE on - two Ostrich feathers (Mowbray) - Mar Garter):
  • PLUS: [[Demi Lion (McDermott/Mowbray/Newcasltle upon Tyne) in chief on Cap of Maintenance ermine (Mowbray) in base:
Swinton of the Ilk [14]
  • Arms: Three Boars ( McDermott ): Crest: Boar and Tree: Motto: "Je Pense": Clansman Badge: JE PENSE PLUS on encircled Garter Belt: Two and three feathers: Swinton of the Ilk Seal: Reversed [ N ]: [15]: Sir John de Swinton: Genealogical chart [16] Donald Earl of Mar: (Checky Arms): King Robert (I) and Queen Isabella of Mar: King Robert (III) and Queen Annabela Drummond: King Robert the Bruce: Houses of Stewart and Stuart: Moubray: (D' Aubigny+Bigood) = Royal lion Scotland & tressure) Douglas: Seton:
  • Mowbray Arms: Demi lion (McDermott) augmentation: Royal Tressure of Scotland: Arms of the Earl of Mar: (Checky Arms 3rd quarter) (Beauchamp Seal ): Donald Earl of Mar: Stewart Earl of Galloway: Stewart de Rothesay: Duke of Rothesay:

McDermott ancestries (10ad-2010)[edit]

  • Shield: (Sinister-chief-angled): Arms: Party per pale chevron argent & or, on chevron gules, between in chief three boars’ heads erased at the neck, and in base a cross crosslet azure, three trefoils or slipped of the second: Crest: A demi lion rampant or, holding between the paws a boars head erased:
Motto: HONOR VIRTUTIS PRAEMIUM: (Honour and virtue is its own reward.)[17]
  • Caradoc Caratacus: (10 AD – 50 AD): (Pre-Iceni; Celtic Brigantes tribe): Reign C1st, to circa 50 AD: Born c. 10 AD ?: Died after c. 50 AD:
  • Arms: Party per pale chevron argent, on a chevron gules, between in chief two boars’ heads, and in base one boars’ head azure, three wheat-sheaves or: Motto: CARADOC in chief: TRADITUS NON VICTUS in base: (Betrayed not conquered):
  • NB: Caratacus: Party per pale chevron: Chevron gules: Three Boars heads: Three Wheat-sheaves or: (NB: Earl of Chester):
  • NB: McDermott: Party per pale chevron: Chevron gules: Four Boars heads: Three Trefoils or: (NB: Royal Arms - Royal Badge):
  • Campbell - MacDiarmid: Malcolm of the clan went to Norman France where he married an heiress of the Beauchamp family and adopted that name. A son Archibald accompanied the Conqueror (1066) becoming founder to several English lines. [18]
  • Rockingham: Patent 12 James I.; illuminated patent: Indented Deed dated 1640ad: Patrimony of MacDermot lineage, including 389 quarters, extending over eight centuries: (840-1640) Last record: per se as “Driven from his ancient patrimony during Cromwellian Wars.”
  • 35 Hen. VIII, c. 1 (1544): Succession determined by last Will (1546) of Henry VIII. Settling the Crown of England upon his children, after extinction of her legitimate descendants, the succession "shall wholly remain and come to the next rightful heirs." Edward Seymour, Lord Beauchamp (McDermott) (b.1561), his 3 sons; 3 daughters and brother, were all named as successors to the English Crown and English Throne. The "Beauchamp family” were again named successors after the Tudor Elizabeth I, and Stuart James I of England.


See also[edit]

References[edit]

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  1. ^ Art of Heraldry; Encyclopedia of Armory. A.C. Fox-Davis. (1908) ISBN: 0906223342.
  2. ^ Art of Heraldry; Encyclopedia of Armory. A.C. Fox-Davis. (1908) ISBN: 0906223342.
  3. ^ Kearsley’s Complete Peerage” (1799) - Translation of Mottos: (xxiii)
  4. ^ Herbert Norris (1999). Medieval Costume and Fashion. ISBN 9780486404868.
  5. ^ A C Fox-Davis: (1909): A Complete Guide to Heraldry:
  6. ^ Art of Heraldry; Encyclopedia of Armory. A.C. Fox-Davis. (1908) ISBN: 0906223342.
  7. ^ The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain, and the United Kingdom ISBN 0-904387-82-8
  8. ^ Archaeologia: (1842): Vol. XXIX: App. 387:
  9. ^ Art of Heraldry; Encyclopedia of Armory. A.C. Fox-Davis. (1908) ISBN: 0906223342.
  10. ^ Merriam Webster’s Dictionary (2007):
  11. ^ Fairburns Crests
  12. ^ Art of Heraldry. (Demi-lion)
  13. ^ Art of Heraldry; Encyclopedia of Armory. A.C. Fox-Davis. (1908) ISBN: 0906223342. (Mowbray arms)
  14. ^ Art of Heraldry; Encyclopedia of Armory. A.C. Fox-Davis. (1908) ISBN: 0906223342.
  15. ^ Kings Manor. York
  16. ^ G.E. Cokayne: The Complete Peerage: 2nd Edition:
  17. ^ Art of Heraldry; Encyclopedia of Armory. A.C. Fox-Davis. (1908) Plate xxii. ISBN: 0906223342.
  18. ^ Campbell. p55: Collins Guide: Scots Kith and King: A Guide to the Clans and Surnames of Scotland. ISBN: 0004356659.
  19. ^ Chapter Clark. (signed) 29 June 1991.

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