User:B. Wolterding/Article alerts/test-WikiProject Comics

About this report

This is a report about articles related to this project in Wikipedia workflows. It contains all articles in workflows which are tagged with {{Comicsproj}} on their talk page. See User:B. Wolterding/Article alerts for details.

The following workflows are covered in this report. (Not necessarily all of them have active items, though.)

• Proposed deletion
• Articles for deletion
• Miscellany for deletion
• Templates for deletion
• Categories for deletion
• Good article nominations
• Good article reassessment
• Good topic candidates
• Featured article candidates
• Featured article reviews
• Featured list candidates
• Featured list removal candidates
• Featured topic candidates
• Peer review
• Requests for comments
• Requested moves
• Did you know

Alerts

Proposed deletion

• 7 Oct 2008 – From Beyonde (talk) proposed for deletion.
• 6 Oct 2008 – Gabe Bridwell (talk) proposed for deletion.
• 5 Oct 2008 – Alva Xar (talk) proposed for deletion.
• 4 Oct 2008 – List of Roy Thomas characters (talk) proposed for deletion.

Articles for deletion

29 Dec 2008 – Cognoscenti (comics) (talk) was kept.

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Discussion relating to merging, moving, or redirecting can continue on the talk page. Stifle (talk) 08:12, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Cognoscenti (comics)

Cognoscenti (comics) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View AfD)

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I can't find any reliable sources for this that shows notability. Schuym1 (talk) 14:12, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

• Concur All I can find is a Marvel Universe guide reference, which doesn't meet third-party requirements. MadScot (talk) 15:06, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
• Delete or Merge to List of Marvel Comic characters or Marvel Comics as there is no notability outside that universe. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 18:24, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
• Redirect per above; can't even find it at the articles for the otehr characters/groups it mentions. JJL (talk) 13:06, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional characters-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 18:17, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
• Keep and improve, or merge and redirect to List of Marvel Comics teams and organizations#C. BOZ (talk) 19:42, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

Or move as suggested below by Emperor. :) BOZ (talk) 01:17, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 20:18, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
• Move to Joshua Pryce and refocus on him. He has appeared outside of the teams other adventures. (Emperor (talk) 00:45, 7 October 2008 (UTC))

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6 Oct 2008 – Baby Doll (Batman: The Animated Series) (talk) nominated for deletion.

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The result was delete. Wizardman 23:36, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Baby Doll (Batman: The Animated Series)

Baby Doll (Batman: The Animated Series) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View AfD)

This character does not establish notability independent of its series. Without coverage in reliable third party sources, it is just made up of unnecessary plot summary and original research. TTN (talk) 00:56, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. -- VG ☎ 01:52, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. VG ☎ 01:52, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
• Keep notable antagonist in terms of Batman TAS's style of storytelling. JuJube (talk) 03:00, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional characters-related deletion discussions. -- treelo _radda 09:46, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. -- treelo _radda 09:46, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
• Delete as I cannot find a suitable character list for merging (if one is created, it will be easier to add two new sentences without merging anyway). She appears in two episodes of an animated series (at least that's what the lead says, the rest is a rambling of plot and OR), so common sense already screams nonnotability. – sgeureka ^t•c 11:00, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
• Merge and use this as the occasion to create a suitable list to merge it to. We should not simply delete information. Appropriate length, that's another matter. DGG (talk) 03:28, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
  • comment- wow Jube, that argument is totally consistent with other arguments you've made recently. Quick query. Which has more notability, sales, etc, Batman TAS or Dragonball? Follow up question, which character is more notable to these shows, Baby Doll, who featured in what, 1-3 episodes, or Cell, Tien, Goten, etc, who featured in many, many episodes. Man, it takes some gall to make these sorts of votes, but you do it anyway...JJJ999 (talk) 05:18, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
• Delete. Non-notable character, no reliable sources, and violates WP:NOT#Plot. Karanacs (talk) 15:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
• Delete no notable character. Subsuming all the minor character into a list ais a great idea, but that doesn't meaning merging this 99% uncited cruft.[ Writing a list entry would be easier than the work of a merger, so why bother?[User:Yobmod|Yobmod]] (talk) 09:48, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
• Keep as this character establishes notability independent of its series. With coverage in reliable third party sources, it is made up of necessary plot summary and unoriginal research. --63.3.1.1 (talk) 14:58, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
• delete No gnews sources. The three book sources relate to the television credits, not the character. Article itself is a mix of plot summary and editor interpretation. Not a main character or villain, even if that were an appropriate or agreed upon criterion for inclusion. Protonk (talk) 19:38, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

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6 Oct 2008 – Ace (Justice League) (talk) nominated for deletion.

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The result was redirect to Royal_Flush_Gang#Justice_League_Unlimited. MBisanz ^talk 22:41, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

Ace (Justice League)

Ace (Justice League) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View AfD)

This character does not establish notability independent of its series. Without coverage in reliable third party sources, it is just made up of unnecessary plot summary and original research. TTN (talk) 00:02, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

• Delete doesn't fully meet the requirements of WP:WAF either. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 00:37, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
• comment any reasons why merge or redirect is not OK? Preferably with some reference to the actual article in question. DGG (talk) 03:59, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
  • The events involving the character is important to the DCAU so I agree that it should be a merge. Schuym1 (talk) 04:24, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
• Merge and Redirect: to Justice League (animated series). Schuym1 (talk) 04:24, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. No evidence of independent notability & no need for a redirect or merge. Eusebeus (talk) 05:31, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
  • The whole point of it being a merge is because the character doesn't have independent notability. Schuym1 (talk) 05:46, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
    • And there is always a need for a redirect if it's a likely search term. Schuym1 (talk) 05:53, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

• Redirect And move content to Royal_Flush_Gang#Justice_League_Unlimited which is where it should be. rootology (C)(T) 17:43, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
• Delete, non notable, and unlikely search term due to disambiguation parantheses.Yobmod (talk) 11:06, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

• Delete per Yobmod - not notable on its own and an unlikely search term. Karanacs (talk) 15:46, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
• Keep as this character establishes notability independent of its series. With coverage in reliable third party sources, it is made up of necessary plot summary and unoriginal research. --63.3.1.1 (talk) 14:56, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
  • It doesn't do any of this. This is simply a copy of the nomination, with the meanings reversed. -- how do you turn this on 18:18, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
• Delete Unreferenced, OR, not notable etc. I'd be happy for it to be redirected though, but not merged. -- how do you turn this on 18:18, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
• Merge to Royal Flush Gang#Justice League Unlimited. Ace is a member of this group, and is not notable enough for its own article. --Patar knight - ^chat/_{contributions} 19:39, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

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Good article nominations

• 29 Dec 2008 – Homosexuality in speculative fiction (talk) is not promoted.
• 4 Oct 2008 – Batman (film series) (talk) is nominated as GA candidate; see discussion.
• 26 Sep 2008 – Gunnerkrigg Court (talk) is nominated as GA candidate; see discussion.

Featured article reviews

19 Sep 2008 – Watchmen (talk) is nominated.

Peer review

24 Sep 2008 – Peer review opened for Batman Returns (talk).

Batman Returns

• A script has been used to generate a semi-automated review of the article for issues relating to grammar and house style; it can be found on the automated peer review page for September 2008.

This peer review discussion has been closed.

I've listed this article for peer review because I need other feedback to get this to FA-status. I still need to add Tim Burton's DVD audio commentary, but I'm open to other suggestions. More importantly I probably should expand the lead section.

Thanks, Wildroot (talk) 00:10, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Ruhrfisch comments: Very briefly, here are some suggestions for improvement. If you want more comments, please ask here.

• The lead should be an accessible and inviting overview of the whole article. Nothing important should be in the lead only - since it is a summary, it should all be repeated in the body of the article itself - my rule of thumb is to include every header in the lead in some way. Please see WP:LEAD
• Article needs a copyedit to clean up the language - an FA criterion is a professional level of English, but just in the lead there are problem sentences like Burton originally did not want to direct a sequel because of his mixed emotions of the previous film - "because of his mixed emotions of the previous film" is not grammatical, or ditto for "caused parental backlash controversy." in Batman Returns was released with financial and critical success, but caused parental backlash controversy. The top section of WP:PRV has people willing to help with copyedits.
• There are several places where the article needs to provide more context for the reader - for example in the Reaction subsection in the Reception section (Reaction is an odd name, by the way) there are many sentences like this Paul Dini enjoyed the characterization of Bruce Wayne. - while Paul Dini is wikilinked, there should also be a brief description of who he is - see WP:PCR A good example of this in the article is Batman comic book writer/artist Matt Wagner quoted, ... although "quoted" is an odd verb
• Refs should be in numerical so fix examples like Raquel Welch, Jennifer Jason Leigh, Lena Olin, Ellen Barkin, Cher, Bridget Fonda and Susan Sarandon were then in competition for the role.[11][3]
• A model article is useful for ideas and examples to follow - see Wikipedia:Featured_articles#Media for the FAs on films

Hope this helps. If my comments are useful, please consider peer reviewing an article, especially one at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog (which is how I found this article). Yours, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:07, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

Requests for comments

• 26 Oct 2008 – RFC (art, architecture, literature and media) opened for Ctrl+Alt+Del (talk).

Requested moves

• 3 Oct 2008 – Move requested for October Guard (talk).