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Linking to 2004 Summer Olympics

Jonel,

All of these are linking to the 2004 Summer Olympics pages for the countries. Was that your intent?

Sue Anne 22:20, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

The 2004-specific links pre-dated my involvement with these templates. The more I think about these templates, though, the less I like them. Even beyond the Wikipedia:Avoid using meta-templates arguments, I find it just as easy to type/copy-paste the flag image and name. I'm not planning on using the templates anymore, but if you or anyone else finds them useful please do edit mercilessly to whatever makes them most useful to you. -- Jonel | Speak 22:40, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
I don't find them useful either and prefer to use just the flag image. There are already so many links, that using the template doesn't seem all that worthwhile.
Sue Anne 22:43, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
Most of the 2006 country pages use this template, and none of the 2004 pages do. I'm going to edit it. Jimbo (not THE Jimbo) 20:23, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
I think these template would be very useful for fixing up old Olympic pages. What would greatly help would be removing the hard-coded "at the xxxx Olympics" string in this template, and make the xxx an additional argument (i.e. "at the " and " Olympics" would still be hardcoded). For example, using "FlagIOC|USA|2006 Winter" would result in the current output, and would be appropriate for medal tables on pages referring to the most recent games. Using "FlagIOC|USA|Summer" would result in a wikilink to the overview page United States at the Summer Olympics, which would be the most appropriate link from pages that span multiple games (e.g. used in all-time medal tables, which appear on "Sport at the Olympics" pages for example. I would like to add the second argument to FlagIOC, and can probably make the edits quickly using AutoWikiBrowser, but would like to hear from others using the template. Andrwsc 17:40, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

New template argument

I have made the change described above. Unfortunately, the template is not backwards compatible with previous usage (e.g. {{FlagIOC|USA}} yields:  United States. The second argument is intended to follow one of the following forms: "<year> Winter" or "<year> Summer" or just "Winter" or "Summer". For example, {{FlagIOC|USA|2006 Winter}} yields:  United States and {{FlagIOC|USA|Summer}} yields:  United States (Look at wikilinks to see the difference.) My intent is to use this updated template for all medal tables, so that the country name links to the appropriate "Country at the xxxx Olympics" page instead of just the page for the country (which is not useful). Andrwsc 01:29, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Addendum to above: I made an improvement on July 11 to fix the backward compatibility problem. Omitting the second argument defaults to creating a wikilink of "Country at the Summer Olympics". Andrwsc 04:00, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Addendum 2: I have made the flag image a named parameter, so you can specify an alternate flag for early Games. There should be no reason 'not to use this template now. ;) Andrwsc 04:29, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Addemdum 3: This template is now smart enough to choose the correct flag by itself (assuming the "games" parameter is correct), so the flag argument has been removed.

Another argument

OK, so I was looking at the 2006 Winter Olympics article when I realized that the # of participating athletes in small print after the nation name looks nice. So I added this argument to the template, which can be used by just adding the # of participants as {{{3}}}, like this:

{{FlagIOC|USA|2006 Winter|211}}
 United States (211)

This way, you don't need to repeat the small tags over and over again, and it's pretty simple. JARED(t)  14:31, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Discussion at MoS on flag icons

Please contribute to the discussion on flag icons at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Flag icons - manual of style entry?. (SEWilco 14:49, 15 January 2007 (UTC))

Host?

How could we denote that a nation was the host? Maybe by bolding the nation's name, or adding a small "host" after it? I'm not sure, but I think it may be helpful.... Suggestions? JARED(t)  14:36, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Maybe something that would render like one of these, perhaps:
United States United States (host, 211)
United States United States (211, host)
The code would be simple to do. JARED(t)  15:12, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi Jared. To be honest, I don't think this parameter is necessary. In the only location in which I believe it would be used (i.e. the "Participating nations" section of each Games main article), I think it is unnecessary. By that point of the article, there are usually many times in which the host nation has already been mentioned. Therefore, there is no need to repeat it again, and possibly expanding the column width of the NOC list. Andrwsc 21:50, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
I really didn't either. I just saw that it was on one of the pages, so I thought at the time that it would be useful, but it's just one more thing to clutter up the template! JARED(t)  15:39, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

Proposal to replace {{flagIOC|USA...}} calls

FlagIOC is becoming part of a new proposal. Notice: There is currently a proposal to change calls {{flagicon|USA..}} to {{USA|..}} at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Flag_Template#Changing_USA_flag_calls. Please consider posting there to keep the discussion in one place. (SEWilco 02:44, 10 January 2007 (UTC))

So if I correctly read that thread, the proposal will not include this template? It seems necessary to keep the Olympics flags out of the discussion because they are used for totally different purposes. And the different parameters that this has would make a common template difficult. JARED(t)  15:38, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I posted a detailed explanation of what I had done to "decouple" the current flagIOC from the previous implementation, and therefore, the WikiProject Flag Template folks seem happy to leave the Olympic flag usage alone. Andrwsc 17:34, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
The WikiProject Flag Template discussion may be of interest for its technical information. The Manual of Style discussion mentioned below is relevant because it is about Wikipedia usage of all flag icons. (SEWilco 06:03, 16 January 2007 (UTC))

IOC flag capability

Hello! Would it be possible to add a parameter that would allow the IOC flag to be displayed over the nation's flag? The parameter would address the issue of the correct representation of Netherlands Antilles athletes. I would think that the change would be similar to the one made at the {{flagPASO}} template, where, when the template is used, the link will be to the "Netherlands Antilles at the Pan American Games" but the flagicon would display the PASO flag. Thanks! Prayerfortheworld (talk) 03:15, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Example of change:  Netherlands Antilles to  Netherlands Antilles Prayerfortheworld (talk) 03:16, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

1936 German flag

I am strongly suspecting that {{flagIOC}} when applied to Germany in 1936 is producing the wrong flag. The flag with the central disk was by 1936 was only used to represent the National Socialist German Workers' Party (Nazi party) with a flag with an off centred disc being used to represent the German state. Would it be possible to fix this?

The correct flag to use for representing the German state at this time would be File:Flag of German Reich (1935–1945).svg

Please see Flag of Nazi Germany and Template:Country data Nazi Germany for more information about the flags. --Thefrood (talk) 11:10, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Which code needs changing on which page?  Sandstein  07:43, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
I've no idea how these templates work, Just that the flagicon at the moment is not showing the correct national flag - the SVG above is the correct national flag for Germany in 1936. "{{flagicon|Nazi Germany|1935}}" will show the correct flag if that is of any help. --Thefrood (talk) 08:03, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
On investigation it is the sub-template {{Country flag IOC alias GER}} that needs changing:
The line that reads | 1936 Winter = Flag of the NSDAP (1920–1945).svg should be changed to read | 1936 Winter = Flag of German Reich (1935–1945).svg, (I also strongly suspect that this should be repeated on the Summer line too). --Thefrood (talk) 08:18, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
Okay  Done. The 1936 summer has the same output as 1936 winter, so that will have changed too. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:44, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
Thank you --Thefrood (talk) 16:23, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Virgin Islands

Someone has recently changed a template (I don't know how) so that the Virgin Islands appear as "United States Virgin Islands", for example here, with the unfortunate consequence of turning blue links into red links (which I've turned into a redirect for the 2012 page), not to mention disrupting the alphabetical order. The same has been done with regard to the Paralympics. I think the USVI uses the name "Virgin Islands" at the Olympics and Paralympics, so we should probably reflect that. Aridd (talk) 15:56, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Appears to have been fixed. Aridd (talk) 10:26, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

United Germany needs fixing

FlagIOC|EUA|1964 Summer generates the right flag and text, but is a red link. Unified Team of Germany exists as a working link. Thus  United Team of Germany -- SGBailey (talk) 08:52, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Flag problems

Hi, This is Raymarcbadz, I have a problem regarding the flag IOC templates.

South Korea did not visibly appear its flag to all of the IOC templates for countless days, and now, two other countries followed South Korea not to appear their flags. How will they be shown again to the templates? How are we going to adjust the image size. At least 26 pixels is allowed. Below 26 would no longer be seen. THIS NEEDS TO BE FIXED! How are we going to solve this problem. Message me. Thank you! Raymarcbadz (talk) 18:19, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

This is a problem on Commons. Look at the history of commons:File:Flag of South Korea.svg and you'll see that the image changed several times between 11–13 October. Undoubtedly the cached png images at flag icon sizes were corrupted during these frequent changes and need repair. Nothing can be (or should be) done on en.wikipedia to fix the problem, and certainly nothing needs to change on this template. — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 19:32, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Why this template doesn't use the regular flagicons?

I mean the icons from {{flagicon}}-template. They look nicer than the {{flagIOC}} ones. See:
flagicons vs. IOC icons:
Canada  Canada IOC icon is tiny, the stalk is not visible
Switzerland  Switzerland IOC icon is too big
Nepal  Nepal IOC icon with incorrect borders
Maiō T. (talk) 23:33, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Protected edit request on 9 January 2016

Please update the protection level of this template so that those of us with template editor rights can edit it. The template only has 6756 transclusions. I would like to make a minor change to remove any leading or trailing spaces from the unnamed third parameter for number of athletes, such as  Greece (441) or  Greece (441). Thanks. Zyxw (talk) 18:21, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

DoneMr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 07:27, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

National Olympic committee

Request that a new "games" option, "NOC" be added. This would cause the country name to link to the relevant article for the National Olympic Committee for that country, (as listed at Association of National Olympic Committees of Africa, Pan American Sports Organization, Olympic Council of Asia, European Olympic Committees, Oceania National Olympic Committees).

For example {{FlagIOC|USA|NOC}} would produce United States.

This would obviously require a fair bit of work piecing together the template code, so I'd like to get a yes/no on this before committing to the technical challenge. --LukeSurl t c 13:11, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Thinking about this, this would probably be better as a separate template. --LukeSurl t c 09:59, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

A link to a DAB page

In List of participating nations at the Winter Olympic Games, {{FlagIOC|COR}} generates a link to the DAB page Korea at the Olympics. I assume that the link should be to Korea at the 2018 Winter Olympics. Could someone fix this problem please? Narky Blert (talk) 17:13, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

It should, and it does (now). Primefac (talk) 17:25, 15 February 2018 (UTC)

Yugoslavia

is not well implemented: {{flagIOC|YUG|2000 Summer}} renders  FR Yugoslavia, but should use the flag as in  FR Yugoslavia«« Man77 »» 09:19, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

I agree, {{flagIOC|FR-YUG|2000 Summer}} is what should be used. Needs urgent fix ASAP. Ivaneurope (talk) 22:03, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
I don't think it's necessarily an "urgent ASAP" fix, but I've gone ahead and fixed it anyway. Primefac (talk) 23:26, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
For what it's worth, this discussion has been started to further examine the issue. Primefac (talk) 19:38, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

US & Canada flag 1912

When 1912 Summer Olympics opened, the flag had been changed to the 48 stars. The flag was officially used on July 4, while the Olympics were opened on July 6. Can it be changed so in 1912 Olympics article, the flag used is the 48 stars? Also in that article the Canada flag is off, while it shoould be 1868 flag. Thanks. – Flix11 (talk) 05:20, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

 Done. For some reason the Canada flag has been acting up, so it wasn't a template issue but a Wikimedia issue. Primefac (talk) 14:50, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Swaziland/Eswatini

The IOC now recognises the Eswatini Olympic and Commonwealth Games Association as the NOC for Eswatini (Swaziland) - https://www.olympic.org/eswatini

The NOC code remains SWZ, and three athletes are competing in Buenos Aires under 'Eswatini' - https://www.buenosaires2018.com/results/en/all-sports/noc-entries-eswatini.htm

This should be reflected. 185.248.205.124 (talk) 14:20, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 14 November 2018

Change "Congo" to "Republic of the Congo" per this RM. Hddty. (talk) 04:26, 14 November 2018 (UTC) Hddty. (talk) 04:26, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

 Done in Module:Country alias. I expect that this will be mildly controversial, but the article title appears to be somewhat stable. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:48, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Merging talk pages

Since this is the most-watched talk page of this family of templates (all of 18 people!) I think it would be best to redirect the talk pages of the other {{Flag templates}} here so that it's a "centralized" location for discussion; the majority of the templates are just wrappers for {{flagIOC2}} so most of the changes will likely be related to {{country alias}} anyway (i.e. requests for fixing how a flag appears or which country name shows up). If there's no opposition in a week or so I'll implement the change. Primefac (talk) 18:14, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

 Done. Note that I left most of the existing discussions in-place, as they were (mostly) template-specific but also from pre-2019 and would have been immediately archived. Primefac (talk) 11:38, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

Flag accuracy

BIH flag in 1998

Bosnia & Herzegovina were using their current blue-and-yellow flag at the Nagano Winter Olympics, as can be seen in the Parade of Nations. All pages regarding these Olympics currently display the country's old white flag, which is incorrect. 96.48.239.44 (talk) 09:38, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

 Done, flag was changed in Feb so it probably makes sense to drop the year by one; can add in exceptions the other way if necessary. Thanks. Primefac (talk) 10:34, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Andorra

I'm not sure if it's noteworthy enough, but from the 1988 Winter games and going back, Andorra used a version of its flag without the coat of arms on it during the opening ceremony. I'm also seeing it in the 1984 Summer games. 96.48.239.44 (talk) 09:42, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

I can certainly add in the historical flags for Andorra (not sure why they aren't in there already) but if there's a flag not on that list that was used outside those timeframes, there will need to be a reference and/or image of said flag for it to be added as a one-off exception. Primefac (talk) 10:52, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
It's not a one-off exception. I've been watching the opening ceremonies of past Olympics, and it appears that Andorra only started using the flag with the coat of arms after 1984. Here for example you can see their uncharged flag.96.48.239.44 (talk) 10:10, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
Is there a time? I don't really feel like (or have the ability to) watch a 2+ hour video for one screenshot. Plus, Olympic.org gives the flag with CoA at the Shooting results. Primefac (talk) 13:25, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
10:4096.48.239.44 (talk) 09:56, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
 Done. Primefac (talk) 17:38, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

1976 Greece

This footage (4:00) of the opening ceremony for the winter games shows Greece's new flag (with the stripes), while This footage (8:40) of the summer games shows their old flag. 96.48.239.44 (talk) 09:58, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

The only thing I can tell for sure is that the "old" flag was used at the Summer Games. Winter footage isn't clear enough to tell, and there's no commentary. Primefac (talk) 14:11, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
 Done, though I needed this video for Innsbruck (Winter) and the Summer link (from Andorra, above) at 8:53. Primefac (talk) 17:38, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
I additionally found Greece's striped flag in the official Olympic movie for the 1956 Summer Olympics, at 10:55. Same video also shows a blue flag for Bermuda at 11:38. 96.48.239.44 (talk) 10:30, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
Flag of Greece states that the striped flag of Greece was adopted as far back as 1822 and was the flag meant for "use abroad". As I have just today seen another video (1956 Winter) with the striped flag, I believe that the Greek flag with only the cross was only used at the inaugural Athens Olympics, as the rest of the Olympics were "abroad". Ah nevermind, I've just seen the Helsinki 1952 parade and they use the basic cross flag there, so it seems like they just flip flop back then... 96.48.239.44 (talk) 09:32, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Congo (ROC) 1964

Official Olympic footage from the 1964 opening ceremony (13:10) shows Congo (Brazzaville)'s current flag with the diagonal yellow stripe, not the mostly red flag we currently have listed. 96.48.239.44 (talk) 09:19, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

 Done. Primefac (talk) 17:38, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

North Borneo 1956

This video at about 9:40 seems to show the North Borneo team entering under just the Union Jack, as opposed to the specific flag of North Borneo. (Video shows them between New Zealand and Norway, and the delegation is too small to be the team from Nigeria) 96.48.239.44 (talk) 10:43, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

 Not done, not really compelling evidence and I can't find any other angles. Primefac (talk) 16:14, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Australia

Australia appears to be using the Australian Red Ensign during the 1952 Winter Games, as seen here at 1 minute in. At 1:30, you can also catch a glimpse of New Zealand between Netherlands and Poland, also using a Red Ensign. 96.48.239.44 (talk) 08:45, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

 Done. Nothing super-clear that I can find but enough partials that I think you're right. Primefac (talk) 16:14, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Malta

Malta is not using the British blue ensign flag during the 1948 Summer Olympics. A different flag can be seen at 4:07 in this video. 96.48.239.44 (talk) 09:41, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

 Done. THAT is nice and clear. Primefac (talk) 16:14, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

India

India (British Raj) is using the Governor-General's flag instead of the red ensign we currently have displayed, at the 1936 Summer games. See 6:58 in this video. And earlier at about 4:10 you can once again see the striped flag of Greece. 96.48.239.44 (talk) 10:14, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

 Done. Not overly convinced with Greece, though. Primefac (talk) 16:14, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

South Korea flag in 1948 and 1984

Hello! I see that South Korea have wrong flags in the Olympics in 1948 and 1984. South Korea used the flag variant for 1945 in 1948 and both the Olympic Games until they changed flag in October of that year. South Korea used the 1949 variant during the 1984 Summer and Winter Olympics until they changed the flag in October of that year. Yours sincerely, Sondre --80.212.169.236 (talk) 11:01, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Just so I'm clear, in:
	KOR = {
		name = "South Korea",
		{1947, "Flag of South Korea (1945-1948).svg"},
		{1949, "Flag of South Korea (1948-1949).svg"},
		{1983, "Flag of South Korea (1949-1984).png"}, -- flag changed in Feb '84
		{1997, "Flag of South Korea (1984-1997).svg"},
		{2011, "Flag of South Korea (1997-2011).svg"},
		"Flag of South Korea.svg"
	},
the 1949 needs to becoming 1948? Also, I put a note in there that the flag changed in Feb '84 which is why we're using 1983; should there be a specific exception for the '84 Games to be the 1949 variant? also, is there evidence of these changes? Primefac (talk) 01:03, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello! Primefac. The flag that South Korea used in the 1948 Winter and Summer Olympics was the Flag of South Korea (1945–1948).svg they changed to the new flag in October of 1948. The flag that South Korea used in the 1984 Winter and Summer Olympics was Flag of South Korea (1949–1984).svg until they changed the flag in October of that year.
Yours sincerely, Sondre --80.212.169.236 (talk) 13:10, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 Done. Primefac (talk) 16:53, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Bulgaria flag in the 1948 Winter Olympics

Hello! I see that the Bulgarian flag for the 1948 Winter Olympics is wrong. They changed the flag three days prior to the Olympic Games on January 27. They used the flag variant for 1946. Yours sincerely, Sondre --80.212.169.236 (talk) 11:03, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

So for the 1948 Olympics, they went back to the Flag of Bulgaria.svg that was originally used pre-1946? Primefac (talk) 01:03, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
Hello! Primefac. The flag i meant was Flag of Bulgaria (1948-1967).svg they changed to the flag three days prior to the 1948 Winter Olympics they changed to that flag on January 27th. The games started on January 30th.
Yours sincerely, Sondre --80.212.169.236 (talk) 13:00, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
 Done, thanks for clarifying. Primefac (talk) 13:04, 8 April 2021 (UTC)

Spain flag at the 1980 Summer Olympics

Hello! Is it possible to correct the error regarding Spain's flag for the 1980 Summer Olympics. They used the Olympic Committee flag at those Games. Yours sincerely, Sondre --80.212.169.236 (talk) 11:09, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Spain is currently set to use the Olympic flag for the 1980 Games. Primefac (talk) 01:03, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
1980 Summer Olympics boycott says that Spain (as well as Portugal and New Zealand) "competed under their respective NOC flag" rather than under the Olympic flag, so something like File:Spanish Olympic Committee logo.svg? It's not sourced (and I don't know if that's the right one, anyway). I can try to find some more clarification, if nobody else knows anything about that. -- Jonel (Speak to me) 02:49, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
Ah, the committee, much like ROC for 2020 Summer. If you can find the specific flag that would be great. Primefac (talk) 03:13, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
Found a couple sources (ISOH, ITG) for Spain and New Zealand using NOC flags in contrast to Olympic flag. ITG article says "The Spanish also used their red and gold NOC emblem on white, carried by canoeist Herminio Menendez." Haven't found a photograph or video. Commons has File:Spain Olympic Flag 1980.svg, which does not have the border that File:Spanish Olympic Committee logo.svg has. -- Jonel (Speak to me) 14:13, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
Cool, thanks. Done. Primefac (talk) 14:27, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Netherlands Antilles flag at the 1984 Summer Olympics

Hello! Primefac is it possible for you to correct the error regarding the Netherlands Antilles flag at the 1984 Summer Olympics. In the Olympic Games in L.A. They used this flag Flag of the Netherlands Antilles (1959–1986). The flag which is shown is Flag of the Netherlands Antilles (1986–2010).svg. They didn't use that flag before Aruba seceded out the constituent country in January 1986. Yours sincerely, Sondre --80.212.169.236 (talk) 20:02, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

 Fixed, thanks. Not entirely sure why the cutoff for that particular flag was 1983. Primefac (talk) 16:25, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Seychelles

Hello! Can you correct the Flag of Seychelles at the 1996 Summer Olympics?. The flag which is shown is the Flag of Seychelles (1977–1996). The flag which they used at these Olympic Games were the current flag Flag of Seychelles.svg. Yours sincerely, Sondre --80.212.169.236 (talk) 10:04, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Primefac (talk) 17:06, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Ethiopia

Hello! Can you correct the flag of Ethiopia for the 1996 Summer Olympics?. The flag which is shown is Flag of Ethiopia (1991–1996).svg. It should be this flag Flag of Ethiopia (1996–2009).svg. Yours sincerely, Sondre --80.212.169.236 (talk) 10:57, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Primefac (talk) 17:06, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Ethiopian flag at the 1992 Summer Olympics

Hello! Can you correct the error concerning Ethiopia's flag for the 1992 Summer Olympics. The flag which is shown is Flag of Ethiopia (1991–1996).svg. The flag which is seen in the Opening Ceremony is the Flag of Ethiopia (1987–1991).svg. Yours sincerely, Sondre --80.212.169.236 (talk) 11:10, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

The flag changed in '91 but they were using the flag a year later in '92? Seems unlikely, though if there's evidence of this I'll of course change it. Primefac (talk) 17:06, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello! Primefac. Take a look at Olympic Channel - Opening Ceremony from the Barcelona 1992 Olympics after 1 hour and 21 minutes.

The flag that is beared in is Flag of Ethiopia (1987-1991).svg. It is exactly this flag they use during the 1992 Summer Olympics.
Yours sincerely, Sondre --80.212.169.236 (talk) 19:39, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
I'm not 100% convinced it isn't File:Flag of Ethiopia (1992-1996).svg, but it does appear to be the older flag. Exception added. Primefac (talk) 13:29, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello! Primefac. Maybe it is the 1992-1996 flag which is shown during the parade of countries at the 1992 Summer Olympics. I think it looks were likely. See if you can add that to the country's flag during the games. It is a good proposition. Yours sincerely, Sondre --62.73.207.204 (talk) 13:38, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

I had another look; at 1:21:35 the flag icon is shown on-screen and it is pretty clearly the '91 variant. Primefac (talk) 13:41, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

1996 Summer Olympics

Hello! Can you correct the flag of Ethiopia during the 1996 Summer Olympics. The flag which is shown is Flag of Ethiopia.svg. The flag which is the correct one is Flag of Ethiopia (1996–2009).svg. Yours sincerely, Sondre --62.73.207.204 (talk) 15:03, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Primefac (talk) 18:07, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Paraguays flag at the 1992 Summer Olympics

Hello! Is it possible for you to correct the flag of Paraguay during the 1992 Summer Olympics. The flag which is shown is Flag of Paraguay (1990–2013).svg. The flag that should be shown is Flag of Paraguay (reverse 1990-2013).svg. It is a different version i should guess. Yours sincerely, Sondre --80.212.169.236 (talk) 16:54, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

 Not done. The flags used by Paraguay are dual-sided, so it's not so much a question of the "wrong" side but rather "which" side; since the image currently used is the "front" (based on the language used at our article) I think keeping it as-is is perfectly acceptable. Primefac (talk) 17:06, 26 April 2021 (UTC)


Hello! Can you see if you spot differences between the Paraguayan flag which is shown in the article and the one in television graphics. The icon is clearly different. Check out the video for the 1992 Summer Olympics - Opening ceremony and see what you find there?. I notice clear differences when you enlarge the pictures the flag which is carried in is different. Yours sincerely, Sondre --62.73.207.204 (talk) 15:58, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

As I said above, the flag is two-sided. The side of the flag seen in the video (1:43:18) is the "reverse" side, while the icon and what we have is the "front" side. Primefac (talk) 18:14, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Austria

Hello! Can you see if you can correct the Austrian flag for the 1980 Summer Olympics in Moscow?. I see in the opening ceremony that they use the state ensign during the Games. Check the video for the opening ceremony and see what you find there?. Yours sincerely, Sondre --62.73.207.204 (talk) 16:03, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

I cannot find a video for that opening ceremony. Primefac (talk) 17:20, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
InsideTheGames says Austria used their national flag. -- Jonel (Speak to me) 18:02, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
 Not done per the above, unless something definitive can be provided to prove otherwise. Primefac (talk) 18:07, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Flag of the United States at the 1960 Olympics

Hello! Can you correct the flag for the United States at the 1960 Summer and Winter Olympics?. I see that their is an old flag file of the United States US flag 49 stars.svg. The right image should beFlag of the United States (1959–1960).svg. Yours sincerely, Sondre --62.73.207.204 (talk) 13:10, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

The "49 stars" version is the one used throughout Wikipedia (presumably because the blue better matches the cloth specs). The "(1959–1960)" one is up for deletion. -- Jonel (Speak to me) 18:07, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
It depends on the dates of the Olympics. The 49-star flag was in use until 3 July 1960, and the 50-star flag from 4 July. Hope that clears up any confusion. Mjroots (talk) 17:36, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
Sondre's comment was about two different versions of the 49-star flag. Our article on the US at the 1960 Summer Games says that the 49-star flag was used despite the Games being after 4 July, but I begin to doubt that. It's not sourced. This image File:Olympische Spelen te Rome Opening USA vlaggendrager, Bestanddeelnr 911-5404.jpg of the US flag bearer at the 1960 Summer opening ceremony appears to depict a 50-star flag (note the position of the star in the bottom corner of the canton—the one roughly level with the 7th red stripe; on the 50-star version, the bottom row of stars goes out to the edge of the canton, while on the 49-star version, the second-lowest row goes to the edge and the bottom row does not). Anyone know where the idea that the US actually used an old flag came from? -- Jonel (Speak to me) 18:07, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
When I created the module back in 2016, I believe I grabbed all of the year and flag values from the group of existing templates, so if there were incorrect values (clearly, based on this talk page and that of the module) they've been around for a long time. I am, of course, more than happy to fix anything that needs it. Primefac (talk) 18:32, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
I asked on the Usertalk page of the user who added that note. Unless I see something else, though, my thoughts are that (1) Winter should stay with File:US flag 49 stars.svg that is much more commonly used on Wikipedia as the 49-star variant and (2) Summer should be changed to the current (50-star) flag, based on the photo of Johnson above and finding no support for a flag that was not then-current being used. -- Jonel (Speak to me) 12:44, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
 Done. 1960 Winter will use 49 stars, 1960 Summer will use 50. Primefac (talk) 16:10, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Mexico

Hello! Can you check the Mexican flag for the 1968 Summer Olympics?. The flag i see is the flag Flag of Mexico (1934-1968).svg. They switched to the current flag on September 16, 1968. The flag should be Flag of Mexico.svg. Yours sincerely, Sondre --80.212.169.236 (talk) 14:50, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

 Done, didn't know the Games were that late that year. Primefac (talk) 16:05, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Brazil

Hello! Can you check regarding Brazilian flags at the Olympic Games?. At the 1960 Summer Olympics i see that the flag which is shown is Flag of Brazil (1889–1960).svg they changed to the new flag on June 1, 1968 the flag which should be shown is Flag of Brazil (1960–1968).svg. At the 1968 Summer Olympics the flag which is shown is Flag of Brazil (1960–1968).svg. They changed to the new flag on May 28, 1968 the flag which should be shown isFlag of Brazil (1968–1992).svg. At the 1992 Summer olympics the flag which is shown is Flag of Brazil (1968–1992).svg they changed to the current flag on May 11, 1992 the flag which should be shown is Flag of Brazil.svg. Yours sincerely, Sondre --80.212.169.236 (talk) 13:13, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Primefac (talk) 16:26, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Syria

Syria at the 1972 Munich Olympic Games

Hello! Can you correct the Syrian flag at the 1972 Munich Olympic Games. The flag which is shown is Flag of Syria (1963-1972 (1-2).svg. The flag which is right is Flag of Syria (1972–1980).svg. Check the Opening Ceremony for the Munich Games and see what you find there?. Yours sincerely, Sondre --80.212.169.236 (talk) 13:24, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

 Done, seems like the flag was changed in Jan '72 that would make sense. Primefac (talk) 16:16, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Syria at the 1980 Summer Olympics

Hello! Can you check the Syrian flag for the 1980 Summer Olympics?. Because i see that the flag which is used is Flag of Syria (1972–1980).svg. This flag was used until March 29, 1980. The one which should be used is Flag of Syria.svg. Yours sincerely, Sondre --80.212.169.236 (talk) 13:46, 5 May 2021 (UTC)

 Done, similar to the '72 change, happened before the Games that year. Primefac (talk) 16:16, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

Syrias flag at the 1968 Summer Olympics

Hello! Can you check Syrias flag for the 1968 Summer Olympics?. I see that the flag which is used is Flag of Iraq (1963–1991; Flag of Syria (1963–1972).svg. The flag which should be used is Flag of Syria (1963-1972, 1-2).svg. Yours sincerely, Sondre --80.212.169.236 (talk) 19:58, 10 May 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Primefac (talk) 00:51, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Paraguay

Hello! Can you check regarding the Paraguayan flag at the 1988 Summer Olympics?. The flag which is shown is Flag of Paraguay (1954-1988).svg. The flag which should be shown is Flag of Paraguay (1988–1990).svg. Take a look at the video Olympic Channel - Seoul 1988 opening ceremony after 1 hour and 35 minutes approx. Yours sincerely, Sondre --88.89.103.4 (talk) 19:47, 15 May 2021 (UTC)

 Not done, there is no way to know which aspect ratio was used based on that video, and as has been discussed before there are two sides to the flag (the only thing that changed between the pre- and post-1988 flags was the size). Primefac (talk) 00:47, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Ceylon

Hello! Can you check the Ceylon flag at the 1948 Summer Olympics in London?. They changed their name to the Dominion of Ceylon on February 4, 1948. The flag which is shown is Flag of Ceylon (1875–1948).svg. The flag which should be shown is Flag of Ceylon (1948–1951).svg. Yours sincerely, Sondre --88.89.103.4 (talk) 20:02, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Primefac (talk) 00:20, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

MKD

Template-protected edit request on 27 July 2021

Change the output for the MKD input from "Macedonia" to "North Macedonia" to match North Macedonia at the Olympics and the IOC website.
SSSB (talk) 13:13, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

This is something that I'm working on, please be patient. Primefac (talk) 16:23, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
Okay, thanks.
SSSB (talk) 17:45, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Template-protected edit request on 12 August 2021

Can North Macedonia (MKD) be sorted out. Doesn't work at All-time Olympic Games medal table -- SGBailey (talk) 04:29, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

See the section immediately above this one. Primefac (talk) 11:58, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 Done. Primefac (talk) 23:28, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Liechtenstein

Hello! Can you check regarding the flag of Liechtenstein at the Olympic Games from 1948 until 1980?. They used the flag until 1982 Flag of Liechtenstein (1937−1982).svg. Yours sincerely, Sondre --62.73.207.204 (talk) 18:53, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

 Done, though technically it was Flag of Liechtenstein (1937–1982).svg. Primefac (talk) 19:06, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Netherlands Antilles flag at the 1952 Summer Olympics

Hello! Can you correct the error concerning the flag of the Netherlands Antilles at the 1952 Summer Olympics?. They didn't have the 1959 flag right back then they used the Dutch flag. Yours sincerely, Sondre --80.212.169.236 (talk) 20:23, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Our various articles on AHO are... rather lacking, and I'm seeing no evidence of which flag was used before the 1959 flag. Primefac (talk) 17:07, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello! Can you check the Netherlands Antilles flag at the 1952 Summer Olympics?. They only played football during that games. The flag which is shown is Flag of the Netherlands Antilles (1959–1986).svg. The flag which should be shown is Flag of the Netherlands.svg. The Netherlands Antilles was first formed on December 19, 1959. Yours sincerely, Sondre --88.89.103.4 (talk) 09:29, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

See my comment above, and for goodness sake please keep related threads together. Primefac (talk) 15:32, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Flag of Afghanistan at the 2004 Summer Olympics

Hello! Can you correct the error concerning the Afghan flag at the 2004 Summer Olympics. The flag i see isFlag of Afghanistan.svg. it should beFlag of Afghanistan (2002–2004).svg. And the flags from the 2008 and 2012 Olympics that is listed is the Flag of Afghanistan.svg. it should beFlag of Afghanistan (2004–2013).svg. Yours sincerely, Sondre --80.212.169.236 (talk) 21:10, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

There was a similar discussion here regarding Afghanistan's flag. It would appear that there is/was no standard size for the seal. If you wish to comment on that discussion and see if there a consensus can be reached, please feel free. Primefac (talk) 13:00, 20 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello! I see that the afghan flag which is used at the 2004 Summer Olympics is the current one. Afghanistan had a transitional government that year so the flag which is carried in very early in the opening ceremony is the flag from 2002 to 2004. Regarding to discussions earlier about afghan flags at later Olympic Games in London and in Beijing. It should be the flag from 2004 to 2013 which should be listed there. Check the opening ceremonies for Athens, London and Beijing and see what you find there. Yours sincerely, Sondre --62.73.207.204 (talk) 12:37, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Courtesy ping to Mohsen1248, who has definitely done more research into this flag, so as to get their thoughts on the matter, as well as August-54 who was part of the previous discussion. Primefac (talk) 12:40, 30 April 2021 (UTC)


Peru

Hello! Can you see if it is possible to use the state variant for Peru in the Olympic Games. They have used that variant in every Olympics since 1952. Yours sincerely, Sondre --80.212.169.236 (talk) 10:27, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Is there evidence to support this? Primefac (talk) 17:06, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Peruvian flag from 1996 until 2008

Hello! Can you check the Peruvian flag for the Olympic Games from 1996 until 2008?. They used the state variant in those Olympics. Check the ceremony footage for those games and see what you find?. Yours sincerely, Sondre --80.212.169.236 (talk) 15:01, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Bolivia

Hello! Can you see if it is possible to use the state variant of Bolivia as an olympic flag. They have used that flag in every Olympic Games since 1936. Yours sincerely, Sondre --80.212.169.236 (talk) 10:35, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Is there evidence to support this? Primefac (talk) 17:06, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Bolivian flag from 1996 until 2012

Hello! Can you check the Bolivian flag for the Olympic Games from 1996 until 2012. They used the state flag at those games. Check the opening ceremony footage for those games and see what you find?. Yours sincerely, Sondre --80.212.169.236 (talk) 14:58, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Costa Rica

Hello! Is it possible for you to use the state variant of Costa Rica as a flag for the Olympic Games they have used that variant since the 1936 Olympic Games. Yours sincerely, Sondre --80.212.169.236 (talk) 10:49, 24 April 2021 (UTC)

Is there evidence to support this? Primefac (talk) 17:06, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Costa Rican flag from the 1996 until 2008

Hello! Primefac. Can you check regarding the Costa Rican flag from the 1996 and 2008 Summer Olympics. They used the state flag during the opening ceremonies. Check the opening ceremonies footage for the respective olympic Games and see what you find?. Yours sincerely, Sondre --80.212.169.236 (talk) 14:56, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Peru, Bolivia and Costa Rica

Hello! Can you check regarding the flags of Bolivia, Costa Rica and Peru at the Olympic Games?. In the Olympic Games from 1996 to 2008 Peru used the state flag in the opening ceremonies. From 1996 to 2016 Bolivia used the state flag. Check the opening ceremonies for those games in question. Costa Rica also used the state flag from 1996 to 2008. Yours sincerely, Sondre --88.89.103.4 (talk) 09:48, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

See my comments at #Peru, #Bolivia, and #Costa Rica above. Primefac (talk) 15:42, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

Lithuania

Hello! Can you check the Lithuanian flag for the 2004 Summer Olympics?. I see that the current flag with ratio 3:5 is in use. They used the flag with the 1:2 ratio until September 1, 2004. Yours sincerely, Sondre --88.89.103.4 (talk) 10:01, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Based on this thread started by Mohsen1248 last year, the change was made to its current status. I do note that Flag of Lithuania supports a July '04 adoption of the 3:5 ratio, though the design and symbolism seem to indicate that it wasn't actually implemented until September. Primefac (talk) 12:42, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Templates for nations at the Olympics

Hello! Can you add lists and groups for nations at the Olympics in the templates for the Olympic Games until 1936. To be precise add the continents in groups and the list of the countries should be below. Yours sincerely, Sondre --88.88.103.30 (talk) 12:48, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

I genuinely have no idea what you're asking. Please give some links or a better description of what you would like done. Primefac (talk) 13:12, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Philippines

Hello! Can you check regarding the Flag of the Philippines at the Olympics?. From 1948 to 1998 they used the flag Flag of the Philippines (1936–1985, 1986–1998). See if you can find that flag because i think that is the correct one. Yours sincerely, Sondre --62.73.207.204 (talk) 12:35, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Primefac (talk) 13:55, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Haiti

Hello! Can you check regarding the Haitian flag in the Summer Olympics from 1900 to 1932. They didn't use today's flag back then. I think they used the flag until 1964 Flag of Haiti (1859–1964).svg Yours sincerely, Sondre --62.73.207.204 (talk) 13:20, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

 Done. Primefac (talk) 15:09, 22 October 2021 (UTC)

France

Hello! Can you check regarding the Flag of France at the Olympics from 1896 until 1956. I think they used the flag until 1958 Flag of France (1794–1815, 1830–1958).svg. Yours sincerely, Sondre --88.88.103.30 (talk) 20:10, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

I'm not overly keen on making a change just for pedantic/minor differences in colour, especially when 90% of the colour debates on Wikipedia are whether something is RGB, CMYK, or Hex. Primefac (talk) 20:59, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

Mongolia

Hello! Can you check regarding the Mongolian flag in the Olympics from 1992 until 2010. I think they used the flag prior to the colour standardisation Flag of Mongolia (1992–2011).svg. Yours sincerely, Sondre --88.88.103.30 (talk) 14:05, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

See above statement about colour choices as they pertain to flags like this. Also, I note that almost no one is using this flag on Wikipedia. Primefac (talk) 14:11, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Belize

Hello! Can you check regarding the flag of Belize. From 1984 until 2016 they are showed with the flag before colors standardization. I think to be fair that the flag is not commonly or widely used you can use the original one instead from today instead. Yours sincerely, Sondre --88.88.103.30 (talk) 22:18, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Based on our article on the matter, it sounds like there wasn't any standardisation during this period, but the fact that we have a flag that was "the official one" before 2019 makes me inclined to use it purely for that reason. Of course, if there was no standardisation then it's likely there were a ton of different varieties floating about, but we will likely never find every formal version used for every set of games so it's more reasonable to just go with what we have. Primefac (talk) 09:28, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Changing year placing

Hello, I was trying to edit this template in my country's language but I couln't figure out how to make the year appear in the back instead of the front of the games. I have looked in FlagIOC2, FlagCGF, and module:Country alias but still can't find it. Anyone could help, please? Thanks. Hayate891 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 10:17, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Not sure what you mean - are you trying to change the order of the parameters, like {{flagIOC|1934|IND}}? Primefac (talk) 10:21, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Romania

Hello! Can you check regarding the Romanian flag at the 1948 Winter Olympics?. They used the flag from January-March 1948. Flag of Romania (January-March 1948).svg Yours sincerely, Sondre --88.89.14.227 (talk) 22:30, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Hungary

Hello! Can you check regarding the Hungarian flag at the 1956 Winter Olympics?. I think they used the flag from 1949 to 1956. Flag of Hungary (1949-1956).svg. I see that you use the flag until 1949 in the Winter Games of 1956. In the Summer Olympics they used the flag until 1957. Yours sincerely, Sondre --88.89.14.227 (talk) 23:07, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

ROC

Hello! Can you please make changes to:
1)  ROC. Template {{flagIOCteam|ROC_2020}} would be seen as link Russian Olympic Committee at the Olympics(ROC), not as now as link to disambiguation page ROC at the Olympics(ROC_2020). Code in parentheses must be without year.
2)  Republic of China. Template {{flagIOC|ROC|2018 Winter}} would be seen exactly as {{flagIOC|OAR|2018 Winter}}, not as now with flag Republic of China and with link to Republic of China at the 2018 Winter Olympics. This wish is due to the fact that sources now usually consider OAR(2018) and ROC(2020,2022) as a single entity ROC (fo example: Olimpedia, ROC and Olympanalyt, OAR/ROC),

On hold, pending outcome of Talk:Independent Olympians at the Olympic Games#IOP, IOA, OAR. Primefac (talk) 09:48, 16 January 2022 (UTC)

Nigeria

Hello! Is it possible to add the Nigerian flag from 1952 at the 1956 Winter Olympics. Flag of Nigeria (1952–1960).svg. Yours sincerely, Sondre --88.89.14.227 (talk) 14:04, 17 March 2022 (UTC)

Yes. Primefac (talk) 14:25, 17 March 2022 (UTC)