Template:Did you know nominations/Vaginal steaming

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The result was: promoted by Gatoclass (talk) 07:07, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Vaginal steaming[edit]

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... ~~that Gwyneth Paltrow was advised that vaginas need not be steam-cleaned ...?~~ Source: Sorry, Gwyneth Paltrow, but steaming your vagina is a bad idea The Guardian, 30 January 2015

Reviewed: Randy Ambrosie
Comment: April 1 nomination. I'm putting this hook up as your starter for 10, I'm sure everyone else can do a lot better!

Or worse. E Eng 17:46, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Created by Hap400 (talk), Ritchie333 (talk), Amortias (talk), Drmies (talk), Tryptofish (talk), EEng (talk), and LadyofShalott (talk). Nominated by Ritchie333 (talk) at 17:35, 15 March 2017 (UTC).

New and long enough, QPQ done by nominator, all non-lead ¶ with citations, copyvio checks reveal no problems ([1], [2], [3]). The only matter is that the source does not state that Paltrow was personally "advised" by anyone or any entity regarding this matter. The news article simply refutes Paltrow's notions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:46, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

The nom was made to meet deadline, hooks are still being considered. See the article's talk page. E Eng 09:52, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

I assume this is deliberately allowing our demograph of teenage boys to go unchallenged :) How about this for a supplementary hook? — O Fortuna!^{Imperatrix mundi.} 21:24, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

This is going to be our best April 1 ever! [4]. I take it you'll be pitching in on the tampons – in fact, maybe we can get that in for April 1 too! O joy! O ecstacy! E Eng 23:09, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Yes, tampons are simply hilarious. LadyofShalott 00:37, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Well, if the tampons don't work out we can always withdraw them. E Eng 01:42, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

If it helps, I'll see if I can't smooth the way. You know, grease a few palms... Pull a few string... ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 22:51, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

ALT1 ... ~~that Gwyneth Paltrow advocates "sorcery for your vagina"?~~ E Eng 02:18, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
ALT2 ... that vaginal steaming jives with "neoliberal, postfeminist and healthist ideologies, colliding with pervasive sociocultural understandings of the female reproductive body both as core of womanhood and as 'embodied pathology'"?
- OK that's not as catchy. Drmies (talk) 03:21, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Jive indeed. I think you mean jibe, Your Arbship. (See also Wikipedia:Diffusing conflict.) E Eng 04:15, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Says who? Drmies (talk) 04:30, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

It seems the alts I proposed on the article talk page didn't get copied over to the nomination page, so here they are:

ALT3: ~~... that women have been advised to "consciously uncouple" from vaginal steaming?~~

striking this one since it's not stated in the article. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 04:22, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

ALT4: ... ~~that "sorcery for your vagina" is not recommended?~~ Gatoclass (talk) 05:29, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

striking ALT4 as potentially implying that it is sometimes but not always credibly recommended. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 04:22, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Before it happens, my recommendation is that we do not approve a hook, here, that takes aim at a living person - she may have wrote a blog that is wrong but let's avoid this aspect. (Also, if you look at the article, that mention just hangs there, in a manner that suggests it is not really important to the topic at all). Alanscottwalker (talk) 23:22, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Thank you Alanscottwalker, I have struck both hooks referring to Ms. Paltrow. The original hook is not an April Fools hook in any case, and I think ALT1 rather gives the game away with regard to the "sorcery". Gatoclass (talk) 01:43, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

ALT5: ... that "sorcery for your vagina" may have the unfortunate side effect of second degree burns? Since I've struck several others, it seemed only fair to suggest an ALT myself. I think this one could still work as an April Fool hook. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 04:22, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

I have removed the word "universally" from ALT4 in response to the objection that it wasn't strong enough, and unstruck it accordingly. But we still need somebody to verify the remaining hooks, and there's only a day or so to go before April Fools now. Gatoclass (talk) 08:35, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

ALT5a: ... that "sorcery for your vagina" can result in second degree burns?

Proposing ALT5a. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:36, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Oooooh, I like that one. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPants Tell me all about it. 12:56, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Review of hooks urgently needed if this is going to make it into a set for April Fools. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 22:03, 30 March 2017 (UTC)

Since no-one else has gotten around to it, and ALT5 and 5a are new hooks not proposed by me, I might as well verify them myself. Gatoclass (talk) 02:32, 31 March 2017 (UTC)