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The result was: promoted by PFHLai (talk) 22:05, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Stephanie Rabatsch[edit]

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Young Adolf Hitler OR Young Adolf Hitler

Created/expanded by D Namtar (talk). Nominated by JohnnyMrNinja (talk) at 22:47, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

  • While there are some grammar issues, everything checks out. Passed! Toa Nidhiki05 18:31, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
  • I'm sorry, but there are issues with this article that need to be resolved. The first paragraph under "Interaction with Hitler" has no reference, and its wording is extremely close to that of the Daily Mail article. A number of the references are not fully identified, and the one to Der Spiegel has a template on it asking for clarification. Also I do not find the hook fact actually stated in the article, and it needs to be clearly there for the reader to find and to have a reference on that sentence. (I also wonder whether the relevant section of the Kershaw biography, mentioned by the Daily Mail writer, can be added to the refs.) This needs some work before it can run. Yngvadottir (talk) 04:21, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
  • This is taken from "Stefanie had no idea how deeply Adolf was in love with her ... he was crushed and ready to destroy himself and the whole world." Being crushed by the woman you love is a broken heart, right? I can change it if that is an issue. ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 04:28, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
I see. The thing is, that's a quotation, and it says it was "just as often"; that it was the end result is only implied by her having married someone else. Also the lead para says "platonic." Also the referencing and plagiarism/close paraphrasing issues. I will see what I can do about those, but I have to go offline for several hours now. Yngvadottir (talk) 04:53, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
Even if the copyvio issues are fixed, that leaves the references needing fixed.PumpkinSky talk 10:53, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
I've improved the referencing and I think adequately fixed that paragraph based on the Daily Mail, but I haven't touched the hook sentence or looked in Google Books to see if I can find specific pages in the books, or the passage in Kershaw. (Kubizek's book is also available in English - that's what the Daily Mail is citing.) There also turn out to have been at least two documentaries - the Der Spiegel article is about a previous one. So that needs to be further clarified in the text. --Yngvadottir (talk) 12:55, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
  • OK, I think this is ready for re-review. I've done quite a bit of rewriting and reordering, added some info, fully identified all the sources and checked all except the video, and moved it to the German spelling of her name, so the article is now at Stefanie Rabatsch. (But this template should not be moved, since it breaks functionality.) I propose:
  • ALT1 ... that Adolf Hitler (pictured) was so hopelessly in love with Stefanie Isak when he was a teenager that he planned to commit suicide with her in the Danube? Yngvadottir (talk) 16:54, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
  • Yngvadottir, I don't know how you're so awesome, but I'm grateful for it. Great copy-edit and great ALT hook. ▫ JohnnyMrNinja 18:51, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
Eeep, thanks. Yngvadottir (talk) 21:29, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
My 2 cents -- I'd never put a picture of Hitler on the main page. PumpkinSky talk 20:00, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
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