Template:Did you know nominations/Roholte Church
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The result was: promoted by PumpkinSky talk 23:02, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
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Roholte Church[edit]
- ... that a now nonexistent inscription of Jesus Christ in the Roholte Church (pictured), dating to the fifteenth century, is considered to be one of the oldest of such?
Created/expanded by Rosiestep (talk), Ipigott (talk), Bonkers The Clown (talk), and Nvvchar (talk). Nominated by Rosiestep (talk) at 21:05, 4 May 2013 (UTC).
- To coincide with the revised version of the article, I suggest the following hook:
- ALT1 ... that a now nonexistent sixteenth-century crucifix inscription in Roholte Church (pictured) is considered to have been one of the oldest of its kind? --Ipigott (talk) 13:18, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
I suspect there are some Danish-English translation problems here. I can work out most of the strange language, but I am clueless on the following: You write (in the lead) that the church "belonged to the Gavnø", but Gavnø is a piece of land and can't be its owner. The body isn't much help. What is intended to be said here? --ThaddeusB (talk) 03:52, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
- When we say "belongs to country x", (I believe) it is not meant as in a nonliving territory owns this thing, rather that it means it is the property of any body representing country x, e.g. The Government. ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 08:13, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
- But Gavno is just an island, not a sovereign body as near as I can tell... What I am trying to figure out is how the ownership of the Gavno land became associated with the ownership of the church. The Danish in the online ref reads "Deres Datter Birgitte Charlotte Kruse blev ved Bryllup paa Lindersvold 3/10 1732 gift med Otto Thott, Ejeren af Strandegaard. Saaledes blev Strandegaard og Lindersvold forenede. Otto Thott købte 18/10 1737 Gaunø af sine Medarvinger, og saaledes har Roholte Kirke tilhørt Gaunø's Ejere siden 1737." A rough machine translation suggests Charlotte's family owned Lindersvold and Otto owned Strandgaard. They married in October 1732, tying the two land together. He then "bought Gavno of his heirs" (apparent translation error) later that month which apparently tied the church's ownership to the ownership of Gavno ("and thus has Roholte Church belonged Gaunø's owners since 1737".) If you could clear up what those two sentence mean in Dutch, I think the mystery may be solved. --ThaddeusB (talk) 20:54, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, it roughly means that, according to a family friend with some knowledge of the language. Sorry for the late response. So yes, I'd suppose purchasing the island would mean purchasing whatever's left on it... Just like if you find gold bars in a house you purchased entirely, then the gold bars are yours (I guess). Changes made. Please look at it again. Cheers, ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 13:47, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
on ALT1. I have copyedited the article, so we are now good to go. Fact is interesting and verified by provided citation. Length, newness, and general compliance with policy have been verified. I tweaked the wording of ALT1 to put the verbs in the proper tense and make it read a bit better, as per standard English usage. Also, 1555 is the 16th century, not the 15th. --ThaddeusB (talk) 21:40, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
- Yes, it roughly means that, according to a family friend with some knowledge of the language. Sorry for the late response. So yes, I'd suppose purchasing the island would mean purchasing whatever's left on it... Just like if you find gold bars in a house you purchased entirely, then the gold bars are yours (I guess). Changes made. Please look at it again. Cheers, ☯ Bonkers The Clown \(^_^)/ Nonsensical Babble ☯ 13:47, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
- But Gavno is just an island, not a sovereign body as near as I can tell... What I am trying to figure out is how the ownership of the Gavno land became associated with the ownership of the church. The Danish in the online ref reads "Deres Datter Birgitte Charlotte Kruse blev ved Bryllup paa Lindersvold 3/10 1732 gift med Otto Thott, Ejeren af Strandegaard. Saaledes blev Strandegaard og Lindersvold forenede. Otto Thott købte 18/10 1737 Gaunø af sine Medarvinger, og saaledes har Roholte Kirke tilhørt Gaunø's Ejere siden 1737." A rough machine translation suggests Charlotte's family owned Lindersvold and Otto owned Strandgaard. They married in October 1732, tying the two land together. He then "bought Gavno of his heirs" (apparent translation error) later that month which apparently tied the church's ownership to the ownership of Gavno ("and thus has Roholte Church belonged Gaunø's owners since 1737".) If you could clear up what those two sentence mean in Dutch, I think the mystery may be solved. --ThaddeusB (talk) 20:54, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
