Template:Did you know nominations/Nisha Ayub
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 15:12, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
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Nisha Ayub[edit]
- ... that Nisha Ayub founded the Seed Foundation and Justice for Sisters to get Malaysia's discriminatory transgender laws annulled and help "transgender people, sex workers, and people living with HIV"?
- Reviewed: The first article in this Template:Did you know nominations/Fonteynkill, Bridge for Laboratory Sciences
Created by Nvvchar (talk), Momokau (talk), Maplestrip (talk). Self-nominated at 02:27, 25 March 2016 (UTC).
Article is new (created on March 21), long enough, and within policy (neutral, sourced, BLP-friendly). Quid pro quo is done as well. The hook is short enough and somewhat interesting, but it doesn't really grab me much. Honestly, the hook initially just confused me. I think something much more powerful could be done here. I'd like to hear your thoughts about ALT1. Regardless, there are no real issues with the current hook. ~Mable (chat) 13:38, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Nisha Ayub has said that she can be stripped naked and killed, but that her transgender identity can not be taken from her?
- Maplestrip Thanks for the review. Your ALT1 hook suggestion is definitely more hooky. Nvvchar. 01:35, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
@Maplestrip: You're not allowed to approve your own hook, and a new reviewer is required. Also, the article now contains new material added by Momokau, which is mostly helpful, but contains several bare references, an unreliable source (Youtube), and an unreferenced paragraph. These issues need to be fixed before posting. -Zanhe (talk) 23:15, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
- I have deleted the you tube sourced text.Nvvchar. 02:45, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks, there's still an unreferenced paragraph (I've added a tag), as well as the bare reference issue. -Zanhe (talk) 04:19, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
- Ah, I'm sorry: I was unaware that a third party was needed if I proposed an alt. And I suppose I should have watched the article to see if it didn't get issue like these. I'm sure there must be a source documenting this "remarkable feat" somewhere, but I agree that we should wait until it either has one or until the content gets removed, as it falls in the "extraordinary claim" category. Bare link sources are, as far as I know, no obstacle to the DYK process, though I'll fix them :) ~Mable (chat) 08:16, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
- Zanhe Thanks for the review. I have fixed refs to unreferenced paragraphs in the lead. Bare references have been fixed by User:Maplestrip. Names of both Maplestrip and Momokau have been included in the credits as they have made useful contributions to the article. I can't find a ref to the Alt1 hook.Nvvchar. 12:57, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
- I really didn't do that much for it ^_^; The ref for the alt1 hook is here: "She said, “You can cut my hair. You can strip me naked. And you can take my dignity away from me. You can even kill me. But you cannot take away my identity as a transgender person." This quote is used in the article. Powerful words. ~Mable (chat) 13:30, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
- ALT1 checks out. However, there are still some close-paraphrasing issues. For example, the sentence "When she was 21, religious authorities sentenced Nisha to three months in a male prison under a provision of Sharia (Islamic law)" is nearly identical to the source. See Earwig report for all instances. -Zanhe (talk) 17:20, 11 April 2016 (UTC)