Template:Did you know nominations/Liu Han

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The result was: promoted by 97198 (talk) 22:58, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

Liu Han[edit]

  • ... that the recently executed billionaire Liu Han once survived an assassination attempt by another billionaire, who was also executed?

Created by Edwardx (talk), Zanhe (talk). Nominated by Zanhe (talk) at 06:31, 16 February 2015 (UTC).

  • Now, this is a hook that is most unusual. The article is long enough and has been created on the indicated day. There are sufficient reliable sources, and the tone is appropriate. The QPQ review is still outstanding, and I have some doubts on the word "billionaire": Der Spiegel reports that his net worth was estimated 650 million US$ in 2013, (have added this info just now to the article), and the 6 billion figure refers to "family assets", so presumably not just Han's. The source reads "with one official report pinning his family’s assets at more than $6 billion" which sound to me that there are other reports with differing figures. Or is it meant to be "Yuan billionaire"?--Pgallert (talk) 16:28, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
  • The $650 million figure was the 2013 Hurun Report estimate of his then publicly known assets before his arrest. It's ridiculously low considering that he bid $1.3 billion for Sundance Resources alone (see The Australian). The US$6.4 billion (40 billion yuan) is the figure released by the court, which includes all his formerly unknown assets, see China Daily. This more recent and official figure is widely used in international media, see The Telegraph, The Guardian, New York Times, The Australian, and many others. -Zanhe (talk) 20:14, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
  • Upon further investigation, it appears that Der Spiegel confused this Liu Han with a different person with the same name in English. The Liu Han who was worth $650 million in 2013 ($1.2 billion in 2015) is a 52-year-old man born in Guangdong, whose source of wealth is Yihua Timber, an unrelated company. See original Hurun entry. -Zanhe (talk) 01:31, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
  • QPQ added. -Zanhe (talk) 05:31, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
  • Very well, and good to know that he have it right, and Der Spiegel has it wrong. QPQ is also fine. Should it then maybe spelled out that he is US$ billionaire? English WP is read worldwide, and locally a billionaire is one in his home currency, methinks. --Pgallert (talk) 06:12, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
  • I think adding US$ makes the hook less hooky. Most people probably would assume US$ when they see the word billionaire. For readers who think in yuan terms, the hook would still be accurate. -Zanhe (talk) 06:19, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
  • Then all is settled here. I checked the English sources with the Duplication Detector and found nothing alarming. "Only" a grey tick because I couldn't check the Chinese sources, neither for content nor for plagiarism violation. --Pgallert (talk) 13:42, 22 February 2015 (UTC)