Template:Did you know nominations/List of United States Coast Guard stations

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by BlueMoonset (talk) 04:30, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

List of United States Coast Guard stations

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• ... that although early stations (early station pictured) of the predecessor of the United States Coast Guard were run like volunteer fire departments, none were ever inspected.

• Reviewed: Turkey Flat

Created/expanded by Ktr101 (talk). Self nom at 23:10, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

• 5x expansion verified. However, the copy is sourced to the primary source, the United States Coast Guard, rather than secondary sources which would show notability. Per Rule D2, there should also be at least one inline citation per paragraph.
• The hook itself should be rewritten to meet DYK rules. Here is a suggestion:
• ALT1: ... that although early stations (example pictured) of the United States Life-Saving Service, predecessor to the United States Coast Guard, were run like volunteer fire departments, none were ever inspected?
• Note: This DYK review is being applied against the QPQ requirement for Template:Did you know nominations/Apollo 11 lunar sample display, Apollo 17 lunar sample display. Yoninah (talk) 23:26, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
• What do you mean by "the copy?" Kevin Rutherford (talk) 04:41, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

• The paragraphs you wrote. Yoninah (talk) 09:18, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

• Second question, then. Do you want me to cite the parts where it talks about the stations existing, to show notability? Kevin Rutherford (talk) 20:25, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

• Notability does not mean that something exists. It means it is important enough to be mentioned in a newspaper, magazine, website article, etc. All the information you've written comes primarily from the U.S. Coast Guard website. Can you cite other media or website articles that talk about the subject as well? BTW, according to DYK rules, you need at least one inline citation per paragraph. The information in the first and third paragraphs must be cited, too. Yoninah (talk) 21:09, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

• That was the plan, I just wanted clarification on whether or not you wanted me to cite the stations in the paragraphs. I already have taken over a year to make that list somewhat presentable, so I don't want to take another year to find notability, as that is something I would leave to those who want to create the articles. I'm sure they're all notable, and I really don't want to go find 400 citations for each of these stations, as I am confident that if the Coast Guard has gone as far here as they have for their air stations, they are notable. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 05:48, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

• I'm still improving this when I have the time, so if you need this done sooner, let me know, as I am trying to figure out how to make this work perfectly. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 02:17, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

• Kevin, all we're talking about is adding secondary sources to the first three paragraphs. Yoninah (talk) 10:28, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

• I am aware of that, and I added a citation to the third one, as the second one doesn't have any duplication in secondary sources. For the first one, do you want me to cite the station locations, as it feels a bit weird for me to do. I have no problem with it, but it's not something I thought of doing. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 02:56, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

• In the first paragraph, I think you need a citation for the second line, that there are "hundreds" of stations, and a citation for the third line, that there are two "floating stations" (the latter reference may already be in the list below, under Ohio River and Dorchester Bay). I still don't see you adding any reference that's not from the U.S. Coast Guard, though. Could you do a Google search on other sites that talk about the stations? These secondary sources might also provide more information that you can use to flesh out the lead. Best, Yoninah (talk) 10:08, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

• I added two independent citations for the stations, and I removed the reference to "hundreds." In terms of finding secondary sources for everything else, I could do it, but it would probably take a year of on and off work to cover everything. Other than that, everything should be good to go. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 22:06, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

• Good job! Since your DYK nomination only applies to the text portion of the page (the three paragraphs of the lead), you don't have to worry about extra citations for the list. Now, on to the hook. The hook information needs to be mentioned in the text, which it is not. Would you like to consider a different hook, such as:
• ALT2: ... that the United States Coast Guard has operated life-saving stations both on shore and in floating installations for over 150 years? Yoninah (talk) 10:41, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

• Go for it! Kevin Rutherford (talk) 17:11, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

• Wonderful. Now we are all set ... except I'm not allowed to approve my own hook. Could another editor pass this nomination ASAP? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 19:55, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

• Hook is good to go. Interesting and covered. Regards. — ΛΧΣ²¹ 05:15, 15 December 2012 (UTC)