Template:Did you know nominations/Julian Radcliffe
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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 07:03, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
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Julian Radcliffe[edit]
- ... that Julian Radcliffe is the founder of the world's largest private database of lost and stolen art? Source: "You are strongly encouraged to quote the source text supporting each hook" (and [link] the source, or cite it briefly without using citation templates)
- Reviewed: Mary Hogarth
Created by Edwardx (talk). Self-nominated at 23:48, 25 February 2017 (UTC).
New enough, long enough, neutral, generally well sourced (I AGF on the subscription-only article from The Times) except for the 3rd paragraph of the Career section (the source doesn't say that Marinello founded the Art Recovery Group) and the hook (I'll cover that in a moment), which is otherwise good, being within the character limit and interesting.
- Now for the issues. Obviously, QPQ is still needed. The claim in the hook that the ALR is "the world's largest private database of lost and stolen art" is unsourced, and indeed isn't mentioned anywhere in the article except the lede. Additionally, a lot of the sentences hew fairly closely to the sources, mainly with a few words changed. I know there's only so many ways to restate sparse information, as I've run into the same issue myself, but I would feel much more comfortable passing this article if you would work on the phrasing a little bit. G S Palmer (talk • contribs) 02:17, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- QPQ done. I've found a 2016 book that backs up the hook fact, and added that, with a Google Books link. I will do some copy editing next, and report back. Edwardx (talk) 11:42, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you, G S Palmer. I've cited the Marinello ARG stuff and expanded it a bit. I've added a few more cites and done quite a bit of general copyediting. Edwardx (talk) 12:50, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
The sources (for both things) look good and the copyediting is an improvement. I can't find any other issues, so this is good to go. G S Palmer (talk • contribs) 13:56, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
- Now for the issues. Obviously, QPQ is still needed. The claim in the hook that the ALR is "the world's largest private database of lost and stolen art" is unsourced, and indeed isn't mentioned anywhere in the article except the lede. Additionally, a lot of the sentences hew fairly closely to the sources, mainly with a few words changed. I know there's only so many ways to restate sparse information, as I've run into the same issue myself, but I would feel much more comfortable passing this article if you would work on the phrasing a little bit. G S Palmer (talk • contribs) 02:17, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
