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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Jolly Ω Janner 06:48, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

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Inauguration of Mauricio Macri[edit]

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  • Comment: The article includes text moved from the main article. See here for the version with new text and before adding that content, which is long enough anyway. Cambalachero (talk) 21:22, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Created by Cambalachero (talk) and Raymie (talk). Self-nominated by Cambalachero at 21:22, 21 January 2016 (UTC).

  • Not a full review, but I added a {{fact}} tag to two uncited lines which, if you think about it, are a BLP violation as long as they remain uncited within the article. Until this is addressed, I recommend against anyone conducting a full review of this article. Daniel Case (talk) 03:44, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
  • Given Daniel Case's caveat, I thought an appropriate icon should be added. I hope the issues are addressed soon. BlueMoonset (talk) 06:34, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
Done. I added two references. Cambalachero (talk) 13:11, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Although the QPQ is done, the hook has no problems and the article is sufficiently new and long enough, I do have two concerns. The first one is spelling and grammar, with some sentences being as much as incomprehensible. The sentence "calling "the Argentines to accompany management and alerting when he mistake"" really highlights the problem. I'm fully aware of the fact that it might be my own lack of insight, but a line like this is hard to understand. Please spend some time correcting this. Also, I feel this article is not neutral enough. The unsourced sentence "The actual reason of the dispute was that Kirchner wanted to fill the auditorium of the Congress with simpathizers, who would jeer at Macri during the ceremony." is really not something which should be there.—♦♦ AMBER(ЯʘCK) 00:00, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

The references for that sentence are the two ones at the end of the paragraph. Cambalachero (talk) 14:15, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
  • From what I could hobble together, one source clearly speculates about what was going to happen if Kirchner had her way, while the other one speaks in very broad terms about presidents generally wanting to have their own supporters with them. Those sources are not good enough to justify that sentence.—♦♦ AMBER(ЯʘCK) 22:28, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
  • I've done my best to fix the major copyediting issues here working from the original sources. The culprit was poor translation quality. I've also done some rewriting and improvements to the section that's being contested. I speak Spanish, so please do not hesitate to ask me questions. This article really needed someone who knew Spanish to do a review. Raymie (t • c) 03:27, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
  • That's a big step in the direct direction. Thanks for stepping up, Raymie! With regards to the prose, I'm now satisfied. But the one thing I remain unsure of is the NPOV of this article. It seems slightly tilted towards Macri, especially when his own running mate is cited to defend his reputation. His running mate is by no account a reliable source for these types of things, of course. If some time could be spent, then I'm confident I will be able to {{DYKTick}} this.—♦♦ AMBER(ЯʘCK) 11:02, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
  • I'm kind of with you. Part of the problem is that there are a lot of citations to Clarín, which had more than an ax to grind with the kirchneristas, and La Nación which both have conservative editorial stances. I'm trying to see if I can add some more medios K to the mix. Raymie (t • c) 18:57, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
  • @Amberrock: I've added some new material in an attempt to try and bring some balance and source variety. Please let me know what you think. Raymie (t • c) 19:34, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
  • While the problem was also the lack of variety in the sources, the NPOV is also apparent in the prose itself. I see you balanced the phone conversation, which is most welcome. But I would like to see the paragraph about the threat of violence by Kirchnerist organizations somewhat revised, because that is a very serious allegation. Who claims there would be violence? I'm not gonna place tags in this article, but if I was, I would a {{by whom}} there. Either the source of these allegations has to be made more explicit, or the whole thing has to go. —♦♦ AMBER(ЯʘCK) 20:15, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
  • @Amberrock: I've tried adding new sources there to make the article seem less macrista. It looks like there were some rumors floating around and they were vigorously denied. Having trouble finding much on them though for some reason. Additionally, I've made some minor improvements to the lead. I'm trying my hardest as I think that might be the last hurdle before a successful DYK. This article is in far better shape than it was about 24 hours ago. I would also like to have another (outside) reviewer who hasn't seen this yet come by and take a look. Raymie (t • c) 04:14, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
  • I wil definitely agree with you that this article is in much better shape now. You've done a terrific job. As per your request, we'll have another reviewer take a look at it.—♦♦ AMBER(ЯʘCK) 10:13, 29 February 2016 (UTC)


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: The hook does not have a citation directly. --3family6 (Talk to me | See what I have done) 01:30, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

@3family6: I've added a citation (number 16) to the claim that Pinedo gave Macri the sash and staff. Take another look. Raymie (t • c) 01:52, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
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