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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus to promote after 11 days. Yifek (talk · contribs) stated below:

the only reliable reference there is sky news and that doesn't support much. so I would urge no, don't accept this unless someone can rewrite with reliable.

After reviewing this article's sources, I agree:
  1. "Artist Profile Page". myartspace. Retrieved 2011-09-19. – Myartspace, a social-networking site, cannot be considered a reliable source for biographies of living persons.
  2. "Ian Cook". LinkedIn. Retrieved 2011-09-22. – LinkedIn, a social-networking site, is never considered a reliable source for biographies of living persons.
  3. Suart, Paul. "Birmingham teacher Ian Cook paints a winning F1 picture – Birmingham News – News". Birmingham Mail. Retrieved 2011-09-19. – Birmingham Mail, a tabloid, should not be used for a biography of a living person. Per Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Challenged or likely to be challenged (shortcut WP:BLPSOURCES): "Material should not be added to an article when the only sourcing is tabloid journalism. When material is both verifiable and notable, it will have appeared in more reliable sources."
  4. "Lewis Hamilton Painting, Artist Ian Cook Uses Cars Instead Of Brushes | UK News | Sky News". News.sky.com. Retrieved 2011-09-19. – Sky News is a reliable source.
  5. John Mahoney (2008-07-25). "British Artist Paints Using RC Cars As His Brushes". Gizmodo.com. Retrieved 2011-09-19. – Gizmodo seems to be a reliable source.
  6. "Artist Ian Cook paints the cars". Yellowwheels.com. 2009-07-23. Retrieved 2011-09-19. – there is no evidence that this blog receives the editorial oversight required at Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources#Self-published sources (online and paper).
  7. "Artist Ian Cook uses motor vehicles to create giant image of a racing car". Metro.co.uk. 2010-06-06. Retrieved 2011-09-19. – Metro, a tabloid, should not be used in a biography of a living person.
  8. UK (2008-05-31). "Solihull Council – Popbang@solihull – Artist Ian Cook". Solihull.gov.uk. Retrieved 2011-09-19. – the page states: "Introducing an amazing and talented local artist who is building a reputation, not just in our region but internationally via the internet. Ian has innovated a whole new style of art which he calls Popbang." This a promotional local press release from Solihull Metropolitan Council about the subject.
  9. "Pop art with Popbang Colour". motormorph.com. 2010-08-18. Retrieved 2011-09-19. – an interview with Ian Cook, the article contains no secondary discussion or analysis about him. There is also little evidence of the source's having a "reputation for fact-checking and accuracy" required by Wikipedia:Verifiability#What counts as a reliable source.
  10. http://www.rallybuzz.com/ – after reviewing RallyBuzz, I was unable to find any editorial oversight as required by Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources.
  11. "Ian Cook – Popbang Colour". Heritage Motor Centre. Retrieved 2011-09-19. – a primary source about the subject's work at the centre, this article from the Heritage Motor Centre is a promotional source. Because it attempts to persuade people to view the subject's works (which requires an admission price), it cannot be considered a secondary reliable source.

Most of the article is based on unsatisfactory sources: tabloids, promotional press releases, and websites with no evidence of reputable editorial oversight. Because the article fails Wikipedia:Verifiability, it is not suitable for the main page.

Cunard (talk) 09:02, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Ian Cook (artist)[edit]

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  • ... that Ian Cook, an artist, painted a picture of Lewis Hamilton the size of two double-decker buses, using only toy car wheels dipped in paint?

Created/expanded by Rcsprinter123 (talk). Self nom at 20:33, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

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Orlady (talk)


  • Too short. Please expand it to at least 1500 characters. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:22, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
  • The hook or the article? If the article, how should I know when it has 1500 chars? Rcsprinter (talk) 15:01, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
The article. It's 1468 at the moment, so very nearly there. Wikipedia:Did you know/DYKcheck is what I use. Incidentally, I don't think you need to mention in the hook that he's an artist. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:02, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
I have expanded it a little bit, and
ALT 1: that Ian Cook painted a picture of Lewis Hamilton the size of two double-decker buses, using only toy car wheels dipped in paint?
This new hook takes out the artist. Rcsprinter (talk) 15:25, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
  • Length is sufficient now. The bulleted text didn't count as "prose." I took out the bullets, and it qualifies now. --Orlady (talk) 05:05, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
So what now? Can someone fill in more of the checklist? Rcsprinter (talk) 15:47, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

I just saw this and it's bad. the only reliable reference there is sky news and that doesn't support much. so I would urge no, don't accept this unless someone can rewrite with reliable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yifek (talk • contribs) 22:20, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

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