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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 22:31, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

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I. I. Mironescu[edit]

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  • ... that I. I. Mironescu, despite being a physician, served as a regular soldier and not a combat medic in the Second Balkan War, but did lead a cholera-fighting effort in its aftermath?

Created by Biruitorul (talk). Self-nominated at 14:56, 18 June 2015 (UTC).

  • Length and date of posting the article are in order. Ref 3 to original hook is in the Romanian language and the translation is AGK. Ref 1 to ALT1 hook is AGF. No copy vio noted. I like the original hook.--Nvvchar. 20:04, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

I have pulled this from prep 1 as the hook statement (ALT1) doesn't appear in the article, and I am not impressed by the original hook. Gatoclass (talk) 13:03, 30 June 2015 (UTC)

It looks tome like it's sourced almost verbatim in the final paragraph, with a clear citation. It's right there. Dahn (talk) 05:50, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
The hook says his best tales were told orally. But the last sentence only says This bears echoes of Mironescu's talent as a teller of tales, largely in oral fashion. It says he was a talented oral tale-teller, it doesn't say his best tales were not included in his books which is what the hook strongly implies. Gatoclass (talk) 07:32, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
If you look through various definitions of echo ("repeat, imitate, to be reminiscent of, evoke"), it's apparent that in this case, his best work did indeed consist of his narrated tales, and that what he published merely echoed those superior works, as opposed to equaling or bettering them. I'd be glad to resolve any further concerns, but really, I don't see anything misleading, vague or uncited here, and neither do the several other editors who've taken a look. Can we perhaps move on? - Biruitorul Talk 18:12, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
I still think the hook is misleading. Why not just stick to what the sources say, ie, something like he "published several books of stories which echo his reported talent for oral storytelling"? Gatoclass (talk) 06:31, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
Frankly, Gatoclass, I find that less interesting than the first hook (the one about his war service), but if you insist:
  • ALT2:... that Romanian writer I. I. Mironescu published several books of stories that echo his reported talent for oral storytelling? - Biruitorul Talk 21:23, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
Well we shouldn't run a misleading hook just because it's hooky. I will see if I can come up with another alt. Gatoclass (talk) 06:56, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
  • ALT3: ... that Romanian writer I. I. Mironescu published several books of stories, though his oral storytelling was reportedly superior? On reflection, that isn't adequately supported by the source. Gatoclass (talk) 07:44, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Try this:
  • ALT4: ... that the flashes of folk humour in I. I. Mironescu's published stories bear witness to his reported skills as a raconteur? Gatoclass (talk) 08:01, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
  • Reviewer needed to check hooks. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:10, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
  • AGF on offline source. Last two sentences clearly connected and cited to a footnote. Hook is definitely more interesting than others. good to go. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:41, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
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