Template:Did you know nominations/Golgota Picnic
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The result was: promoted by Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:48, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
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Golgota Picnic[edit]
- ... that the play Golgota Picnic has led to numerous protests by conservative Christian groups in France and Poland?
- Reviewed: Mr. Burns, a Post-Electric Play
5x expanded by Piotrus (talk). Self nominated at 15:16, 4 July 2014 (UTC).
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Details that are supposed to be checked in a review can be found at DYKReviewing guide — Maile (talk) 20:05, 4 July 2014 (UTC)Like nobody else did that. You should remind them too.--12george1 (talk) 03:01, 6 July 2014 (UTC)Never mind. I basically looked through all of the article. The source backing up the hook is reliable, which is probably the most important thing. It definitely looks like the article was 5-fold expanded. So that's my rationale.--12george1 (talk) 03:08, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
New enough, long enough and five times expansion satisfied: text body went from 591 char on 27 June to 3482 char on 7 July. The hook is short enough, properly formatted, and has some interest. However, I am concerned that the citations in the article do not appear to support the claims where they are located. Reference 2, for instance, talks about the censorship conspiracy – but it is used as a reference for the theme of the play, which it does not mention. The major reference for the hook (number 5) only says that protests were planned, not that they actually happened. Meanwhile, other references did talk about the protests but they need to be referenced at the appropriate place. The prevalence of redlinks in the article is also disruptive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gronk Oz (talk • contribs) 17:02, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
- @Gronk Oz: As I am currently busy (traveling for a week), I wonder if you could rearrange the references appropriately? I'd appreciate it. Thanks! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:56, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
- Piotrus, it's been a week and the article has not been edited. It looks like it's up to you to make the necessary fixes. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 21:25, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
- @Gronk Oz and BlueMoonset: I believe R2 is used appropriately. R5 is a bit of a nitpicking; yes, the BBC says planned, but also shows a picture from the protests - a case of imprecise journalistic reporting. I've doubled the cites with guardian ref. Redlinks are supported by WP:RED policy. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:52, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
- @Gronk Oz: As I am currently busy (traveling for a week), I wonder if you could rearrange the references appropriately? I'd appreciate it. Thanks! --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:56, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
Taking another look through all the sources, I have changed my mind and I feel there is enough to support the statements made. I agree about R2: there is the line "Garcia says his play is a critique of modern day consumer society through a deconstruction of the message of Jesus" which does indeed support the statement. R5 would be insufficient itself, but it is backed up by other sources which confirm the protests in both France and Poland. The Redlinks were never claimed to be a problem for the DYK nomination; I was simply commenting that there were a lot of them which I found distracting. Without knowing the people or institutions involved, I cannot comment on whether they are reasonable candidates to have their own articles, and so whether the redlinks are appropriate. Either way, that should not hold up the DYK - as far as I am concerned, it is ready to go. --Gronk Oz (talk) 02:21, 24 July 2014 (UTC)