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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Vaticidalprophet (talk) 02:38, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

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Glyn Johns

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Glyn Johns, 1978

"His fingerprints are all over rock's back pages. It was Johns who engineered the sonic assault of Led Zeppelin's debut album, Johns who suggested that the roof of The Beatles' headquarters in Savile Row, London, should be the venue for what turned out to be their final live performance, and Johns who listened, spellbound, as he raised the faders on The Rolling Stones' Gimme Shelter during sessions for their classic 1969 album, Let It Bleed." Source: The National[1] November 26, 2014 5x expanded by GloryRoad66 (talk). Self-nominated at 04:06, 11 July 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Hotel Wolcott; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

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  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: Yes

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QPQ: No - Not done
Overall: Great piece of work! Article was promoted to Good Article status on July 9, 2023, QPQ not provided, but it is exempted as it is the third nomination. Earwig score [good]. AGF Good to go without picture and minor corrections. Although the fact is mentioned in the lead section, it lacks inline citation in the article, Each fact in the hook must be supported in the article by at least one inline citation. The hook length is 150 characters, frankly not very much hooky. @GloryRoad66:, please consider providing a catchy hook and inline citation for the same. Thanks! RV (talk) 07:38, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing, RV. The fact in the DYK statement is actually three facts mentioned in three different places in the article--I condensed them into one statement for the DYK. Do all three facts (about the Beatles' "Get Back" sessions, Led Zeppelin's first album and the Rolling Stones) have to be in the same sentence in the main body text of the article? Each of those sub-facts appear (cited/sourced w/ Harvard notes) in different places in the main body of text:
  • Fact about Led Zeppelin first album mentioned in the Led Zeppelin section: "Johns engineered Led Zeppelin's debut album recorded in October 1968. Though Jimmy Page was credited as producer, Johns was involved in the production during the making of the album."[Citation #86 (as of 7/11/23) pp. 144, 171–172] Source (listed in Bibliography section at bottom): Spitz, Bob (2021). Led Zeppelin: The Biography. New York: Penguin Press. ISBN 978-0-399-56242-6.
  • Fact about Beatles "Get Back" sessions in The Beatles section: "Glyn Johns worked as the chief recording engineer on the Beatles' "Get Back" sessions, which were both taped and filmed. The project resulted the Let It Be album"[Citation #88 (as of 7/11/23) pp. 164–165] Source (listed in Bibliography): Lewisohn, Mark (1988). The Beatles Recording Sessions (1st ed.). New York: Harmony Books. ISBN 0-517-58182-5
  • Fact about the the Rolling Stones album Let It Bleed: "Johns stayed on as engineer, and with this team the group recorded Beggars Banquet (1968) and Let It Bleed. (1969)"[Citation #13 (as of 7/11/23] Source (listed in Websites section at bottom): Walsh, John (31 October 2014). "Glyn Johns Interview: My 50 Years of Producing Rock Classics". The Independent. Retrieved 20 July 2017
Thanks, GloryRoad66 (talk) 01:53, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
@GloryRoad66: Hi! You are right. The fact in the hook should be in the same sentence as the main body text of the article, duly cited with a reliable source. Secondly, as per guide we should try to avoid hooks that take the form of "... that X is Y?" Regards RV (talk) 05:18, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
Thanks @RAJIVVASUDEV:, I'll keep that in mind for future DYKs.
RAJIVVASUDEV, just to see: are you categorically rejecting the image for this, or are you fine with it? I intend to promote this to prep soon, and I'd prefer an image slot placement (the image is a little low-res, but imo fine for the thumbnail, and I would personally have approved it; from a prep-builder POV I prioritize both GAs and decent hooks, which this hits). I noticed you were equivocal about that, though, so I'd just like to get a signoff from you about whether an image is fine to avoid issues at WT:DYK. Vaticidalprophet 00:41, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
Vaticidalprophet My concern was low resolution only. Please go ahed if you are okay with the same. Thanks RV (talk) 02:33, 15 July 2023 (UTC)


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