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The sentence "In March 2010, Adityanath was one of several BJP MPs who defied the party whip on the Women's Reservation Bill in the Parliament." under "Relations with the BJP links to the Women's Reservation Bill, 2023 rather than the Women's Reservation Bill, 2010. The correct page to link to is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_Reservation_Bill,_2010 2600:1700:E680:F00:C97:B9BE:21A1:EDBC (talk) 23:48, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done, thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:10, 30 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Controversies section[edit]

I've reverted edits by @Genuinewikiuser as they're WP:BLP contentious material. I removed the remainder of the material under the section and Personal views section - they are a list of incidents condensed under Controversies section and extraordinarily fail to state why they are controversial, a serious violation of WP:CSECTION on top of being WP:BLP violation in a contentious article.

The material should be merged with other appropriate content where it is established to be WP:DUE. — DaxServer (t · m · e · c) 07:59, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I fully disagree with Mr @DaxServer.

In fact, the entire act of removing the two incidences take away two of the most important political incidences in the Yogi Adityanath.

It seems clear that they have been removed with definite intent, to take them away from public eyes. Genuinewikiuser (talk) 11:04, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This act of taking away these two incidences from Yogi Adityanath page is like deliberately hiding two extremely important facts and incidences related with him, and having its impact on political events of Eastern Uttar Pradesh. Genuinewikiuser (talk) 11:05, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Removing these two events in unacceptable in all possible manners and is highly improper. It seems to be an intentional effort to hide away unpalatable and unsavoury facts related with Adityanath. Genuinewikiuser (talk) 11:07, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mr @DaxServerasks why these are named under "controversies". The answer is plain and obvious. These are controversial because there are definite contradictory and extremely polarized opinions as regards these incidences. One is the view point being propagated by the followers of Adityanath, where they claim to be innocent in these two incidences. Other is the original official records along with the view point held by his opponents.

Mr Adityanath has always claimed himself to be innocent in these two incidences, while he was named an accused in both these cases.

In fact, the investigating agency also presented a Charge sheet in the 2007 riot/hate speech case but it was dropped when Adityanath was himself the Chief Minister, an act which added to the controversy. Genuinewikiuser (talk) 11:12, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mr Adityanath , the Bhartiya Janata Party and its followers want these facts to be hidden from public eyes and public glare because they are uncomfortable to them. They present facts which the BJP wants to forget and get forgotten. On the other hand, these facts are part of history of Eastern Uttar Pradesh, which have also helped shape of Yogi Adityanath's history, whether they like it or not. Genuinewikiuser (talk) 11:15, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In short, they are extremely important events in the life of Adityanath, as can be seen from the assertions made in various extremely reliable sources. But BJP and its people want to get rid of them because they bring out those incidences in which Adityanath was directly accused of violence and violent act.

It is the reason why they are "controversial" and hence put under the heading "controversies." Genuinewikiuser (talk) 11:17, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In short, the act of removing these two incidences from Adityanath's Wikipedia page is completely improper, incorrect and unacceptable. Genuinewikiuser (talk) 11:18, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As stated/prayed previously, the interactions with @DaxServer have fully confirmed the fact that he is not a neutral editor. What is worse is that he seems to be doing so while having hidden his interest. This act is truly dangerous, and comes as being prima-facie against the basic policies of Wikipedia. Genuinewikiuser (talk) 11:20, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

All these facts are in large public interest and are in interest of truth/actuality, for which Wikipedia strives for.

Hiding these facts would be doing great disservice to truth and historic authenticity, which can never be accepted. Genuinewikiuser (talk) 11:24, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These write-ups are based completely on fully reliable articles, and written in the most neutral and non-judgemental manner, solely as per the flow of events, without being partisan in any manner, to any of the concerned parties, only in the interest of bringing truth and to bring forth the complete truth related with Adityanath as a leader, while also bringing forth the dynamics of evolution of Adityanath as a leader. Genuinewikiuser (talk) 11:28, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

In view of all the above-mentioned facts, I put back these Edits again on Adityanath's page in the interest of truth and justice, because the act of removing them by @DaxServerprima-facie seems to be completely improper, incorrect and unacceptable. Genuinewikiuser (talk) 11:29, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As stated in reply to the query/comment/act of Mr DaxServer, it has been completely established that the two major controversies related with Yogi Adityanath are an essential, inalienable and necessary part of his life journey, whether anyone likes it or not. They are both uncomfortable and unsavoury facts related with his life journey, but have helped shape his political rise in the immense complexities of political scenario of Easter Uttar Pradesh, and hence cannot be taken away, and need to be necessarily presented.

It is for these reasons that they have been brought back, based solely on the genuineness of the need of these two issues.

I would request Mr DaxServer not to remove these Edits, because his interactions so far give a very clear indication that he is not a neutral editor but works for the political party BJP. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Genuinewikiuser (talk • contribs) 11:42, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Genuinewikiuser: You stated on your talk page that you have gone through these rules and norms with great alertness, and shall certainly adhere to them to the best of my understanding, "to err on the side of caution" in response to WP:CTOPS notice. Your restoration Special:Diff/1213314149/1213330761 of challenged WP:BLP material without obtaining consensus speaks otherwise. You're seriously heading towards being sanctioned. Please read these policies and guidelines first:

If you need clarification, please approach WP:Village pump and ask your questions where other helpful experienced editors would answer and help you! — DaxServer (t · m · e · c) 11:59, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Genuinewikiuser: Maybe the two major controversies related with Yogi Adityanath are an essential, inalienable and necessary part of his life journey, but they should be integrated into the article, not marooned in a controversy section. See WP:CSECTION.

Please can you work out where the article it would be best to put your proposed subsections on the Pachrukhia case and the 2007 Gorakhpur Riots.^[1]

The text in its current form is unacceptable because much of the content is uncited. I accept that there are some citations, and it is possible that if one of us went through your text and your citations we might be able to give each statement a citation, but it is your responsibility to do this, and if you do not, the edits deserve to get reverted.

If you want to cite a newspaper article for multiple statements, you can use the reference name feature: i.e. <ref name="bhaskar-04June2022"> followed by the citation template and then </ref> in the first instance, and then <ref name="bhaskar-04June2022"/> in later instances. Let me show you how it works (you can see I have completed the citation template to have things like a translation of the title, the date of the article, and the author of the article).

Yogi cried in Parliament on 12 March 2007.^[1] The speaker, Somnath Chatterje, asked him not to cry.^[1]

-- Toddy1 (talk) 13:03, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ ^a ^b Tripathi, Vishnu (4 June 2022). "जब योगी के लिए 11 दिन गोरखपुर बंद था:2007 की वो घटना, जब मुलायम सिंह के निर्देश पर योगी को गिरफ्तार किया गया" [When Gorakhpur was closed for Yogi for 11 days: The incident of 2007, when Yogi was arrested on the instructions of Mulayam Singh]. Dainik Bhaskar.

[bhaskar-04June2022-1] Tripathi, Vishnu (4 June 2022). "जब योगी के लिए 11 दिन गोरखपुर बंद था:2007 की वो घटना, जब मुलायम सिंह के निर्देश पर योगी को गिरफ्तार किया गया" [When Gorakhpur was closed for Yogi for 11 days: The incident of 2007, when Yogi was arrested on the instructions of Mulayam Singh]. Dainik Bhaskar.

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