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Image[edit]

I dunno, maybe it's me but I think the image of Mr. Rice looks bizarre. He looks like he's ready to go to a football game.[1]. Could we get a better image? Postoak (talk) 20:46, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lol! (I had a similar reaction.) There are stack of images of him around, but I'm not sure about their copyright status. Why don't you do some investigation and chose a better one? If you need/want any help/advice, drop me a line on my talk page. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 11:02, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Source for life history[edit]

Adding information from a Rice Thresher article from April 1972 that I found in the paper's archives. All 'unscited' information in the Biography section comes from this article. AniRaptor2001 (talk) 06:10, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Error in article?[edit]

A reader wrote to Wikimedia ticket:2017091610521431 to suggest that the sentence:

Shortly thereafter, a bank teller noticed a suspiciously large check bearing the late Rice's signature and made out to Rice's New York City lawyer, Albert T. Patrick, but with Rice's name misspelled.

is incorrect. It wasn't Rice's named misspelled but Albert T. Patrick. No reference was supplied.

I did find: murderpedia which I assume does not qualify as RL, but it does support the notion that the error was in Albert T. Patrick's name.

This site is a better source. I think it may be enough to make the change but I prefer that editors familiar with the article look into it and make the change if warranted.--S Philbrick (Talk) 16:21, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I just noticed that the large photograph on the left side of this page has an image of the checking question and you can see that it was made out to "Abert" not "Albert".

I decided to make the change, but feel free to revert me if there is evidence I am mistaken.--S Philbrick (Talk) 16:27, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ambiguity in the name of the Institution.[edit]

The side bar, which gives summary of Rice University, in Rice University Wikipedia article shows the name of the institute as 'William M. Rice Institute for the Advancement of Literature, Science and Art.' but the name of the institute in this article shows 'William Marsh Rice Institute for the Advancement of Letters, Science, and Art,' in Legacy section of this article.

Can any one clarifies the correct name of the institute, with supporting reference.

Raj.palgun13 (talk) 07:21, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Additional information regarding involvement with slave ownership and slave patrols[edit]

I think the article needs to expand further on WMR's participation in slavery. While it touches briefly on the fact he owned 15 slaves, it only includes this fact as a side note when mentioning his other "property". Additionally, there is no mention of his participation on slave patrols, nor his advertisement calling for the capture of one of his slaves who escaped. A link with more information here: https://static1.squarespace.com/static/562d5928e4b0273764f6736c/t/5d684c0e380fbf00014d3259/1567116306178/ID_RHR_2019_final-26-41.pdf

Ebweav (talk) 00:08, 4 September 2020 (UTC)ebweav[reply]

I agree that the William Marsh Rice article could be improved. Thanks for the link. The article is very good, especially for an undergraduate paper. As far as your point about Rice's participation in slave patrol, the article you cite devotes only one sentence of about ten words on this subject, so I think introducing this into the Wikipedia article beyond a slight mention would be WP:UNDUE. One point that the Maust article makes relevant to the Wikipedia article is his criticism of Muir's research (published posthumously and updated in 2012). He says Muir only devotes twelve pages to his activities as a cotton factor. Since, as Maust points out, this was the source of Rice's wealth before the Civil War, I think this should be a major part of the Wikipedia biography. Also, he profited during the Civil War as a blockade runner. I have only read part of the Muir biography, so I don't have credible opinions about its contents as a whole. Yet this same bio might be used as an uncontroversial source for his early life, and perhaps his arrival to Texas. (I have read this part of the book.) Best, Oldsanfelipe2 (talk) 15:02, 5 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I am a student at Rice University and have accessed various resources regarding William Marsh Rice's ownership of slaves and discrimination against African Americans. I am considering working on this article so check out my user page for some of my references. Vanchu22 (talk) 20:39, 10 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Will[edit]

“Patrick interviewed Rice, who would not otherwise have seen him due to his professional relationship with Elizabeth Rice. Patrick was attempting to establish Rice's domicile in Texas, and not in New York, which would have provided a more favorable bequest for Mrs. Rice”

Why dat?

Some explanation as to how domicile can change the provisions of a will would be helpful. Patrick seemed to think it would. Clarification needed. 213.205.240.114 (talk) 09:57, 25 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Founder's memorial[edit]

If we're going to mention the memorial, I think we should also mention its relocation to a less trafficked area of the university. Rklawton (talk) 21:10, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]