Talk:Vladimir Shamanov

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Mentioned in a David Corn column in The Nation[edit]

http://www.davidcorn.com/archives/2007/03/teach_bush_to_g.php == http://www.thenation.com/blogs/capitalgames?bid=3&pid=180696

Heh. 75.18.208.221 05:24, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Vladimir Shamanov saved a lot of lives during Chechen war and helped mothers of missing soldiers to find them, he always took part in battles himself being with his soldiers, that is why population of Russia respect his personality. Inspite of some provocator's words his actions during the war were turned to protect the civilians of Chechnia. His wife Ludmila Shamanova is well known for helping children in orphanages all over the Russia.

Don't be so naive. Grey Fox-9589 (talk) 12:49, 8 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
A wonderful fairy tale. Didn´t he save little dogs from Russian air bombardements, either? Jednadi (talk) 12:46, 8 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wrong date of governorship[edit]

Ray Finch: One Face of the Modern Russian Army: General Vladimir Shamanov. In: Journal of Slavic Military Studies, 24:396–427, 2011. (online; PDF; 512 kB) writes on pages 417f:
However, shortly after Putin’s presidential victory in March 2000, it became clear that Shamanov’s battlefield ‘skills’ were no longer needed. The tipping point that led to his dismissal likely dealt with war crime allegations, either against him personally or those against one of his subordinates, Colonel Yuri Budanov. ... With the Russian media still largely unfettered and with ongoing investigations by human rights organizations into quasi-criminal actions by Russian forces within Chechnya, Shamanov’s outspoken nature turned into a liability. ... The war had served its primary purpose of getting Putin elected. However, allegations of Russian war crimes and massive human rights violations in Chechnya reflected poorly on the new management. Putin understood that generals like Shamanov had helped him secure a presidential victory and that he could not just ‘cast him aside.’ Therefore, Kremlin officials began to devise a scheme to remove him while still thanking him for his efforts. ... He [=Schamanow] bided his time in late spring, early summer 2000 until a more promising offer was made. Despite the lack of any political experience, in August 2000, he began to campaign under the Kremlin colors for the position of governor for the Ulyanovsk province. How Shamanov was able to secure the Kremlin’s backing for this billet is unclear. Greetings Jednadi (talk) 12:53, 8 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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