Talk:Visit of Jung Bahadur Rana to Europe

Visit of Jung Bahadur Rana to Europe was nominated as a History good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (December 24, 2022). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

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Bahadur's team[edit]

I've worked on this all day so I'm much too tired to do it myself but the article does not even mention Bahadur's team, but refers to the traveller/s as 'they' on multiple occasions. There were names of the members of the team in the edit before mine, but I don't know what else to say about the team. Sorry if I don't make sense, I'm very new to Wikipedia. Henriio (talk) 06:02, 6 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Visit of Jung Bahadur Rana to Europe/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: David Eppstein (talk · contribs) 08:09, 24 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This is very far from meeting GA sourcing requirements (WP:GAFAIL #1).

This article had a two-month stale [citation needed] tag (at the start of "Meeting with Queen Victoria") at the time of nomination.

Almost all of the footnotes are to a single source (Whelpton), given with no publication detail. The article could reasonably have a {{single source}} cleanup banner, or for that matter a {{notability}} banner as a single source is not enough to pass WP:GNG. The internal links from the footnotes to the source are all broken. Another publication listed in the references (Dixit) is not used in any footnotes.

There are entire unsourced paragraphs in sections "Patna and Calcutta" (third paragraph), "In Britain" (second paragraph), "Meeting with Queen Victoria" (three out of four paragraphs), "Jung Bahadur's time in Britain" (first and fourth paragraphs), and "In France" (first three paragraphs).

Because of the inadequate reference data I could not check for copying or too-close paraphrasing.

Much of the detail of the trip appears excessive. "Each passenger had a bed and three meals a day."??

Additionally, the photo of the statue lists no provenance that could be used to determine whether the artwork is still in copyright or whether it is taken in a place where photos of copyrighted 3d artworks continue to have the copyright of the artist. It also has little clear connection to this specific visit.

—David Eppstein (talk) 08:09, 24 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@David Eppstein:. Thanks for quick check. But I think the decision was too quick. For example:

The citation tag seems to be placed without reading the references properly. It is in page 189. It has been added now.
If you read the book by Whelpton, there are plenty of sources from the British media. Do you think it is necessary to re-cite each of them in this article?
Regarding "Patna and Calcutta" is also inside the same book with its own citations. In this paragraph for example, the citation 20 i.e page 216 should be sufficient. Similarly for other parts, the citation following after the text should be adequate.
Agree. The excessive text could be rephrased or removed.
The photos rightly shows the context of the texts such as Jung Bahadurs illustrations painted in London and Paris. Regarding copyright, I am also not sure, I used as it I found it in the wikimedia. The first photo, however, could be removed if it seems in appropriate.

-Best! nirmal (talk) 15:20, 26 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]