Talk:Victoria Regina (film)

A fact from Victoria Regina (film) appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 16 October 2020 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that a makeup artist used a rubber mask and fake nose to age Julie Harris by 60 years in the Emmy-winning "program of the year" Victoria Regina?

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Did you know nomination[edit]

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 19:01, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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~~... that Victoria Regina was nominated for seven Emmy Awards, winning as "program of the year" and for Julie Harris's performance as Queen Victoria?~~ Two sources: This one (announcing Emmy nominations and noting: "The Queen Victoria biography scored in seven categories.") and this one ("'Victoria Regina' and its star, Julie Harris, received television's highest awards last night. The drama about England's Queen and the actress who portrayed her were among the recipients of Emmys ... 'Victoria Regina' also was named 'program of the year.'")

Reviewed: Drinking fountains in Philadelphia

Created by Cbl62 (talk). Self-nominated at 19:18, 25 September 2020 (UTC).[reply]

Review:

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: - Not done
Overall: The section where it's said the television production was based on the 1934 play could use an inline citation, as the closest one does not make that information apparent. The article's lede could also be expanded with information about its reception and awards. The hook, albeit interesting, could use a clarification this is about a single episode of the Hallmark Hall of Fame series. Awaiting QPQ to approve. Isabelle ^🔔 22:32, 25 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Isabelle Belato: Thank you for your comments. I have now added the QPQ and edited the article based on your suggestions. I prefer not to add more details to the hook consistent with the "shorter is better" guideline. Cbl62 (talk) 03:13, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Seems fine after the changes and QPQ. Thanks, Cbl62! Isabelle ^🔔 03:24, 26 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I came by to promote this, but what is hooky about this? It sounds like a news item in The Hollywood Reporter. You have a much hookier fact in the techniques to age Harris over a period of 60 years. Yoninah (talk) 11:30, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoninah: Personally, I felt that the "program of the year" honor (best program out of hundreds produced that year) was the most extraordinary fact. Maybe that could be combined with the makeup along this line:

alt 1: ... that a makeup artist used a rubber mask and fake nose to age Julie Harris by 60 years in the Emmy-winning "program of the year" Victoria Regina? Cbl62 (talk) 15:31, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That's better, thanks. @Isabelle Belato: would you mind reviewing ALT1? Yoninah (talk) 16:04, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sure thing! Concerning the technical details, it seems to still be fine, with the hook well sourced and properly explained in the target page. It's definitely more interesting that the previous hook. My only recommendation would be to add the year of production to the hook. What do you think, Yoninah and Cbl62? Isabelle ^🔔 17:33, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Alt 2: ... that in 1961 a makeup artist used a rubber mask and fake nose to age Julie Harris by 60 years in the Emmy-winning "program of the year" Victoria Regina?

I had avoided the year as fewer people will click on a 1961 production -- a shame since so many great productions were made in the Golden Era of Television. If the year is needed, I suggest inserting it as follows: ... that a makeup artist used a rubber mask and fake nose to age Julie Harris by 60 years in the 1961 Emmy-winning "program of the year" Victoria Regina? Cbl62 (talk) 17:51, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think the year is necessary. Yoninah (talk) 18:08, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That's fine. It should be good to go with Alt 1, then. Isabelle ^🔔 18:35, 29 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]