Talk:Victor Trumper

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I foolishly created this page by MOVING by sandbox page, rather than creating a new page. Hence all my sandbox history has moved over also. Perhaps an administrator can clear this. - —Moondyne 03:02, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Place of birth

Copying something that an anon added to the article.

Let's give credit where credit is due. The first and only author to raise the mystery of Victor Trumper's birth was Peter Sharpham in his book 'Trumper:The Definitive Biography' published by Hodder @ Stoughton 1985 and I am quoting from my own book. "Victor Thomas Trumper, destined to become one of the game's immortals was, according to the 'NSW Public Service Gazette' born on 2 November 1877 but no trace can be found in New South Wales records of any birth certificate for a child named Victor Thomas being born to either a Trumper or a Coughlan between 1875 and 1879. Charles Thomas Trumper married Louisa Coughlan on the 15 May 1883 in the residence of John Penman, the officiating minister for the Primitive Methodist Church, at Harris Street, Ultimo. Charles, like his father, was a strict Anglican. Louisa gave birth to the Trumper's first daughter just ten months after the marriage. On 22 February 1884, Alice Mary was born at 432 Riley Street. The second child of the marriage, Una Margaret, was born in the Surry Hills home on 16 June 1885. Her birth certificate quite clearly shows that the 'previous issue,' any other children of the marriage, was '1 female living.' The inescapable conclusion is that Victor was not a product of the union of Charles and Louisa as it is doubtful if they knew each other seven years prior to their marriage, although it is possible. (Charles would have been 16 when Victor was born). Was Victor an orphan who was adopted by Charles Trumper? As adoption records for the era are non-existent we do not know this. Another possibility is that he was the son of a relative of Charles or Louisa; he came to visit and eventually became a permanent and integral member of the family. One fact is certain, Victor was loved by Charles and Louisa, and adored and worshipped by his younger brothers and sisters." (pp 13-14). Tintin 09:48, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Ireland

There's 200 years between the "Cromwell invasion" and the Trumper family leaving Offaly in the 1850s. Where did they live in between - the Irish Sea, perhaps?

Irish people who come to Britain or British who go to Ireland generally settle inter-marry and do not keep a separate national identity. It's rather as if Australians were still described as being from Middlesex as so many of the first-fleeters were —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.125.94.112 (talk) 04:06, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

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