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MISSING PHOTO.... Suddenly a (reasonably good) picture of Venmani Haridas on his page is missing. Could someone please reinstal it? Sreevalsan —Preceding unsigned comment added by Valsan.thiyyadi (talk • contribs) 11:25, 24 November 2008 (UTC) It is perplexing that a clear improvement that I had made on the original page was sought to be replaced verbatim by a wikipedia editor. This is when my rewrite of the page give, in the very opening line, a clear idea of who Venmani Haridas was and what his contributions were to singing for the art form called Kathakali. The original also wrongly mentions Darpana as a dance troupe. Ok, Darpana had a dance trouple, but the Ahmedabad-based school is in fact a performing arts institute with Kathakali also among its teaching departments. This correction that was made too got blithely wiped out in the process of replacement of the original. It's a plain fact that Haridas was rehabilitated back from Darpana by star singer Kalamandalam Sankaran Embranthiri. It's another thing that Embranthiri might have been less talented that Haridas and that it's Embranthiri who may have profited more in this joint venture. But why should a wikipedia editor be fearful of facts? No page on Haridas makes sense without a mention of how Embranthiri groomed him during his comeback days. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Valsan.thiyyadi (talk • contribs) 05:00, 30 September 2008 (UTC) Plus, I had given details of the feature films Haridas had acted. That, along with the mention of the fact that he had been on some television serials, too was just eliminated. Also the original didn't conform to wikipedia style of writing. For example, it had said "Kathakali lost an irreplaceable ponnani Bagavethar" in the death of Haridas. This may or may not be right, but such sentences are more suited to features in journals or write-ups in blogs. And not a matter-of-factly website like wikipedia. Above all, the orignal gave no links to any crucial words like Kathakali, Kerala, India, Kerala Kalamandalam, Aluva, Kalamandalam Neelakantan Nambisan and many more. ==Hangon== It will be unfair to the southern India's classical dance-drama of Kathakali if Wikipedia decides to delete a page on one of its greatest-ever musicians of all times: Kalamandalam Haridas or Venmani Haridas. For, Haridas, as many many masters, critics and Kathakali buffs say, is arguably the greatest-ever musician in the recent history of the art form. He had a mix of all good qualities that a Kathakali musician has to have: robust voice, good adherence to the shruti (that is pitch, amid the loud beats of its percussion instruments), clear enunciation of lyrics, delivering them in an extremely evocative fashion, stamina to sing for long number of hours (throughout the night) and a deep knowledge about stage conduct in Kathakali -- its hand gestures, choreographical details and subtleties. Haridas, on his part, was also eclectic, as his music was a happy blend of the classical Sopanam style of Kerala, the microtone-heavy Carnatic idiom, the imaginative Hindustani style and the romantic element of vintage Malayalam film songs. Overall, it would be a sacrilege of anybody's sense of aesthetics if Kalamandalam Haridas or Venmani Haridas gets deleted from Wikipedia pages.

Last edited at 11:26, 24 November 2008 (UTC). Substituted at 20:49, 29 April 2016 (UTC)