Talk:Umm Nidal

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Is she a widow of Abu Nidal? ←Humus sapiens ^ну? 00:56, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It sounds most unlikely. Nidal is a fairly common name in the Arab world, and this woman sounds like a determined Islamist, which I wasn't aware of the better-known Umm Nidal being - her infamous husband certainly wasn't. It looked to me like someone got mixed up. Palmiro | Talk 01:03, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely not the infamous Abu Nidal. Of course, since she's 'Um' Nidal, her husband would probably also be referred to as 'Abu' Nidal although it's definitely not the the Abu Nidal in question. It simply means her first-born son's name is Nidal. Incidentally, if she is one of those many middle eastern (and some American) religious freaks who receive the daily fax with instructions from up above, how come she didn't go on a suicide mission herself? Ramallite ^(talk) 06:35, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The Hamas covenant has some fairly clear remarks on how women contribute to the struggle, and they assign them a somewhat more traditional role... Palmiro | Talk 13:17, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That was once true, but it appears now Hamas would be totally cool with female suicide bombers.

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I would have assumed Umm Nidal was an assumed name (akin to a nom de guerre) - Mark Steyn reckons "Nidal" means "struggle" (thus "mother of the struggle"). I've heard abu is popular for nom de guerres, so umm would be a logical extension. Andjam 12:12, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Should there be a category for her to note that she's a Palestinian electee? Andjam 12:12, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This New York Times article [1] calls her Mariam Farhat. Is the name in the article correct or is this just an alternate spelling of her name?-Jersey Devil 22:54, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like just another transliteration of the same Arabic name. Please see if the names are correct now. ←Humus sapiens ^ну? 23:16, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don;t know that it's necessary to include every possible variant of the transliteration of her name. As for Umm Nidal, it's more likely that Nidal is the name of her eldest son than that it's a nom de guerre. (Why would she have a nom de guerre anyway? She doesn't seem to be doing any fighting herself.) Palmiro | Talk 16:30, 4 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What should be included, of course, are the spellings that are used. Gene Nygaard 15:18, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And that includes not leaving this hidden away with a redlink at Miriam Farhat, so that readers of that New York Times article and hundreds of other sources are able to find it. It sounds like Palmiro wants to keep this hidden away for some unfathomable reason.

She would, of course, be guilty of a crime as an accessory in most civilized countries, so a nom de guerre seems an appropriate designation. Gene Nygaard 15:23, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Plus the hundreds of other references to the also-redlinked Mariam Farhat. Gene Nygaard 15:31, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

These 2 formerly red links are now redirects to this article. ←Humus sapiens ^ну? 20:47, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]