Talk:Ty Majeski

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Reviewer: MWright96 (talk · contribs) 19:35, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Going to review for the GAN October 2020 Backlog Drive. MWright96 (talk) 19:35, 16 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:

General[edit]

  • Majeski's birth date and place should be included in the prose  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 19:45, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lead[edit]

  • References should not be generally put in the lead  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 19:46, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wiklink late models to the relevant article  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 19:46, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Early years (2004–2011)[edit]

  • "By the time that he was 15 years old," - By the time he turned 15,  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 19:50, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Waltrip wanted Majeski to move to North Carolina for the 2009 racing season but his family didn't want to move." - did not; no contractions per MOS:CONTRACTION please  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 19:50, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Clarify that the late model is a type of car for non-racing readers  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 19:50, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also what was the reason his family did not want to relocate? I have no idea. NASCARfan0548 ↗ 19:50, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ARCA Midwest Tour/TUNDRA Late Models (2012–2016)[edit]

  • "He moved up to racing Super Late Models in 2012." - progressed  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:08, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "he raced 27 events in four different cars for four different owners." - repetition of "different"  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:08, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "He won three races at the Oktoberfest race weekend at the LaCrosse Fairgrounds Speedway to end the season" - ARCA does not say the Oktoberfest event ended the season. Use another source to verify that specific fact and bunch it with the ARCA source if possible Removed the "end of season" part. NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:08, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "His first tour victory happened at Illiana Motor Speedway in May 2014" - He achieved his first tour victory at  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:08, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Majeski started 32nd and passed his way up to a 19th-place finish." - "passed his way up" sounds odd. Please use an alternative formal phrase that all can understand  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:08, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "He was awarded the series' the Rookie of the Year title" - The MJS does not state he won the Rookie of the Year. Another source that explicitly mentions this fact is needed

Removed the "Rookie of the Year" part NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:08, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • "In July 2015, Speed51.com had ranked him #4 on their short track power ranking with seven victories." - please dont use the hash symbol per MOS:HASH  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:08, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "At the Slinger Nationals, Majeski started 20th and passed up to second place." - The MJS "Seymour's Ty Majeski has same drive as Alan Kulwicki" attached to this source does not mention his start or finish position. Find another source that mentions all of this information
I need help with that, @Royalbroil: NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:08, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • added via 2 sources. I was asked because added much of the content in this article, especially early one. Royalbroil 01:38, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "the JMcK 63 Big 8 Series race on Saturday night." - this portion of text should start with the word "and"  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:08, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "He started 27th after an A-arm broke in qualifying." - The Daytona Beach News Journal does not mention Majeski's A-arm broke in qualifying

Removed the "A-arm broke in qualifying" part. NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:08, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • "Speed51 ranked him #3 on their final short track season rankings" - don't uses the hash symbol per MOS:HASH  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:08, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • The final paragraph of this section should be divided into two  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:08, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "He started the 2016 in February" - 2016 season  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:08, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "racing in the World Series of Asphalt Stock Car Racing at New Smyrna, a week-long series of racing in the Speedweeks." - repetition of "racing"  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:08, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "in the Speedweeks." - over Speedweeks.  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:08, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Majeski finished second in the first night" - not mentioned in the sources. Will need to be cited to a source which explicitly states this
I need help with that, @Royalbroil: NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:08, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • reformulated these several sentences. Royalbroil 02:08, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Speed51.com rated Majeski as its #1 Short Track Draft pick in May 2016." - again no hash symbols please  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:08, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "He had 17 starts," - not mentioned by Speed51 so another reliable source is needed to verify this particular fact

Removed the aforementioned quote NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:08, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • "but finished third in the final points." - final points standings.  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:08, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Majeski capped off the season" - more formal; ended  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:08, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "at La Crosse to earn his third consecutive ARCA Midwest Tour championship." - LaCrosse  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:08, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "He fell nearly two laps down during the race and came back to win the race" - repetition of "race"  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:08, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

National touring series (2017–)[edit]

  • "On April 24, 2017, after testing a car at Daytona[32]" - missing a comma between the end of this portion of text and the citation  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 21:04, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also "Daytona" in the above sentence should be spelt out in full on the first mention  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 21:04, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "He returned to the Xfinity Series at Iowa and the season finale at Homestead-Miami, finishing 10th in the latter for his first top ten in Xfinity competition." - the motorsport.com link at the end of this citation is the wrong one and needs correcting

Removed the aforementioned quote after the comma NASCARfan0548 ↗ 21:04, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • "Majeski had his first Top 10 result with a seventh-place finish at Iowa." - This requires verification by a reliable source  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 21:04, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Roush Fenway Racing announced that Majeski will share the No. 60 ride" - more formal and better tense; would share the No. 60 car  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 21:04, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "He was announced as the driver for six ARCA races" - Autoweek says it was five races not six  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 21:04, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "He would also win the following race at Pocono Raceway beating out the dominating driver of Riley Herbst." - needs to be cited to a reliable source

I need help with this one @Royalbroil:

  • I removed the dominating part and cited the win. Royalbroil 02:27, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Majeski pulled away after a restart with 16 laps remaining to capture his second Oktoberfest at La Crosse in October after a tight battle with Erik Darnell." - a second citation is needed to verify that it was Majeski's second Oktoberfest victory

I need help with this one @Royalbroil:

  • "at La Crosse in October after a tight battle with Erik Darnell." - LaCrosse  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 21:04, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "driving the No. 44 for Niece Motorsports." - No. 44 truck  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 21:04, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "In November 2019, Majeski made his NASCAR Gander Outdoors Truck Series debut in the Lucas Oil 150 at ISM Raceway, driving the No. 44 for Niece Motorsports." - The ARCA source in the sentence following this one can be used to verify the name of the Truck Series race he made his division debut in  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 21:05, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "he was involved in a crash" - an accident  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 21:04, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "On February 16, he won his 100th Super Late Model race during the World Series of Aspahlt race at New Smyrna Speedway." - use the Speed Sport source "Orange Blossom 100 Is Majeski's 100th Victory" to verify this statement  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 21:04, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "or if he would return to the No. 45 truck for Bristol." - not mentioned by Speedway Digest  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 21:04, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "After taking fast time in qualifying at the Oktoberfest race in October 2020 at LaCrosse," - After qualifying on pole position at the Oktoberfest event at LaCrosse in October 2020,  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 21:04, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Personal life[edit]

  • "In February 2017 Majeski moved from his home state of Wisconsin to Charlotte, North Carolina to be closer to the racing community." - This sentence will need to be reworded to match the MJS source placed at the end of it  Done, changed Charlotte, North Carolina to just North Carolina. @MWright96:, is that good enough? NASCARfan0548 ↗ 21:13, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "as a senior majoring in engineering." - mechanical engineering  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 21:13, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "He has also been the number one ranked player in the world for the online racing simulator IRacing.com, which sponsors him in his racing." - none of this is mentioned in the Roush Fenway Racing PR piece. Another source containing all this information will need to be put in its place

Removed this source and aforementioned quote NASCARfan0548 ↗ 21:13, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • It is a critical part of his career and I restored with 2 citations. His iRacing ability had opened doors for his tweat from Dale Earnhardt Jr. It has been his sponsor since he started in late model racing and it was his sponsor in the NASCAR Trucks. I saw MANY reliable sources for this statement as I helped build the article. Royalbroil 02:57, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • "In early August 2018, Majeski announced his engagement to Ali VanderLoop on his Twitter account." - on Twitter.  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 21:13, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Motorsports career results[edit]

  • All the tables should include the scope="col"s at the columns for MOS:DTT compliance

WikiProject NASCAR doesn't do that to results tables. NASCARfan0548 ↗ 21:15, 17 October 2020 (UTC)  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 14:04, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • I afraid that I cannot accept that argument as there are multiple GA and FA level motorsport-related articles that feature scope="col"s in the columns of tables to comply with accessibility guidelines. MWright96 (talk) 08:22, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Considering adding in the key that the small number denotes the finishing position

WikiProject NASCAR doesn't do keys for finishing positions. NASCARfan0548 ↗ 21:15, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

  • Racing-Reference should be in the work field of Reference 1

Removed that ref entirely NASCARfan0548 ↗ 03:26, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • The surname in Reference 2 is Griswold not Griswald  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 03:26, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reference 5's work should be The Post-Crescent with the hyphen  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 03:26, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • The same source should include the page number

Help again, @Royalbroil: NASCARfan0548 ↗ 03:26, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • I don't have the newspaper anymore. I added the content in November 2015. I must have really seen something in him to recognize his potential in 2010 (enough to clip and save a newspaper article). I likely clipped the article but didn't save the page number. Royalbroil 03:41, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reference 10 will need archiving because it is dead

How do you archive refs? This also goes with refs 11, 12, 28, and 50. NASCARfan0548 ↗ 03:26, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:DEADREF. Royalbroil 03:41, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also the same reference is missing the date it was published
  • Reference 11 is dead and requires archiving
  • Reference 12 needs archiving
  • The link for Reference 13 needs to be swapped with [1] and the work changed and the author added  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 03:26, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • References 19, 23, 24 and 25 are missing the publication dates  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:56, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reference 27 is missing the author

There is no author listed. NASCARfan0548 ↗ 03:26, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reference 28 will need to be archived
  • Reference 32 should be linked to [2] and include the correct publication date, author and title  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:56, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • References 33 and 34 are missing the author(s) and publication dates  Partly done, I can't find the author for ref 33. NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:56, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reference 41 should not include the publisher which is exactly the same as the work  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:56, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reference 38 is missing the author, publication date and access date  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:56, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • References 44, 46, 47, 55 and 59 are missing the publication dates of the respective articles  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:56, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reference 50 will need to be archived
  • Reference 53's work should not be all in capital letters and should include the access date  Done NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:56, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reference 58 is missing the author

I don't have a subscription, so I can't find the author. NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:56, 19 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

A lot to do here but will put on hold to allow the nominator to address or query the points raised above. MWright96 (talk) 12:28, 17 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I did the best I could on this article with help from @Royalbroil:. Is the article good enough to reach GA status now? NASCARfan0548 ↗ 04:42, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • There are still a number of references that need to have their publication date(s) and or author(s) missing or the dates on which they were accessed. Also his birth date does not need to be mentioned twice in the lead. MWright96 (talk) 16:36, 18 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I did the best I could on this article with help from @Royalbroil:. Is the article good enough to reach GA status now? Update: I added authors and publication dates that were previously missing. Is the article ready for GA status now, @MWright96:? NASCARfan0548 ↗ 20:56, 19 October 2020 (UTC) Now promoting to GA class. MWright96 (talk) 13:08, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Did you know nomination[edit]

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 20:05, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Improved to Good Article status by NASCARfan0548 (talk). Self-nominated at 15:09, 21 October 2020 (UTC).[reply]
Improved to Good Article status by Royalbroil (talk). Author nominated at 02:50, 25 October 2020 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi, welcome to DYK! This is a new enough Good Article (congrats!) and does not have any textual issues. You also don't need to review another nomination, as this is your first. That leaves the hooks to be examined.
  • ALT0—the first hook—is spectacularly uninteresting to people not familiar with racing. We try and find hooks that will lure in a general audience. I've also decided to rewrite ALT1 in an attempt to bring it closer:
  • ALT1a: ... that after qualifying on the pole at a late model stock car race, Ty Majeski chose to start at the rear for a chance to win more money—and won the race?
NASCARfan0548, if you approve of ALT1a as worded, then the nomination can be approved. Raymie (t • c) 00:03, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Raymie, Thank you! I approve of the hook. NASCARfan0548 ↗ 00:05, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Approved! Raymie (t • c) 00:18, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Raymie:All of these noms are weak in wikilinks IMHO. How about a linking to at least late model and as a bonus stock car racing to give context to the reader? I propose ALT1b. "Starting in the rear" sounds funny and might by hard for non-racing fans to understand. How about "starting last" for ALT1c? Royalbroil 02:50, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT1b: ... that after qualifying on the pole at a late model stock car race, Ty Majeski chose to start at the rear for a chance to win more money—and won the race?
  • ALT1c: ... that after qualifying on the pole at a late model stock car race, Ty Majeski chose to start last for a chance to win more money—and won the race?
After starting the article and doing much work toward it becoming a GA, I believe that I deserve GA and DYK credit. For example: initial diff, diff to highlight a few groups of edits. I did a QPQ DYK review of KVZK-TV since I had many DYK (all over 8 years ago). Royalbroil 02:50, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah Royalbroil, I should have thought of that; either is fine. Thanks for supplying a QPQ. And having looked at authorship, you definitely deserve credit. Raymie (t • c) 03:37, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Actually Royalbroil, you'll need to have the two wikilinks for late model and stock car race separated to avoid a WP:SEAOFBLUE, if you need both of there (late model feels like the bigger need). Raymie (t • c) 04:00, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I wasn't familiar with that one (SEAOFBLUE), thanks for pointing it out. Late model is far more important as it implies stock car. Royalbroil 04:05, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Went ahead and removed the link from "stock car race" on ALT1b/1c. Raymie (t • c) 06:00, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hi, I came by to promote ALT1b because readers who are familiar with the terminology will think ALT1c is a bit silly. But the description of the Oktoberfest event at LaCrosse in October 2020 doesn't say anything about it being a late model race. Is that really important or can it be removed from the hook? Yoninah (talk) 20:47, 7 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"Super Late Model" is in the reliable source [3] but wasn't listed in that sentence in the article. The ARCA Midwest Tour is a series of Super Late Models that tours in the Upper Midwestern United States. Super Late Model was tied to ARCA Midwest Tour in the first paragraph of the section ARCA Midwest Tour/TUNDRA Late Models (2012–2016). I repeated it in the section with the hook. Thanks for asking for clarification and for volunteering to help at DYK! Royalbroil 03:16, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Could we just finish up the DYK? It has been two weeks since I started this nomination. NASCARfan0548 ↗ 17:12, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @NASCARfan0548: There's no reason to be in a hurry at DYK. We try to make sure all the facts are in order so no one will pull it from the queues or even the main page. Usually we say it takes up to a month for a hook to be promoted. Please be patient. Yoninah (talk) 18:18, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Yoninah: I'm not in a hurry. I'm just saying even the GA nomination took this long and it worked out. NASCARfan0548 ↗ 18:21, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for updating the text and reference, Royalbroil. Restoring tick per Raymie's review. Yoninah (talk) 20:03, 8 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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