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The title of this page is a misnomer. Project 921-2 is one of seven sub-systems of Project 921. Project 921-2 is Spacecraft applications.

What this page is REALLY talking about is Project 921 Phase 2 (the temporary 8 ton space station), and Project 921 Phase 3 (the permanent 20 ton space station).

Please see http://www.worldspaceflight.com/china/ for a more detailed explanation of Project 921. --65.78.77.86 (talk) 02:12, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

I renamed the page so hopefully this solves your issue. If problems, remain hopefully they are just text-related now. Cheers, Jason Quinn (talk) 10:31, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

problem

Project 921-3 says it's a space plane, the template says it's a space station. 70.55.203.112 (talk) 11:21, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Metric ton?

There's no such thing as a "metric ton"; correctly, 1,000kg is written as a "tonne". Saying "metric ton" is like calling 1,000 metres a "metric mile" or 1,000 millimetres a "metric yard". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.188.36.16 (talk) 12:01, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonne -> this is not true, it's also called metric ton. --Helixdq (talk) 07:08, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
A "metric mile" is either 1500m (int'l) or 1600m (USA) ; a "metric yard" (USA) is 1 metre.70.24.251.208 (talk) 10:25, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Chinese-language-capable assistance on China-related Spaceflight articles

Hi. I am a member of WikiProject Spaceflight and would like to improve the generally inadequate coverage and poor article quality on the Chinese national space program, as noted here.

I think it could be quite helpful to find Chinese-language-capable space geeks to help in this effort. Specifically, if space-interested, Chinese-conversant, folk are available, but perhaps lack the English-language facility to care to significantly edit the English Wikipedia, then it might be very useful to form a partnership between people with different skill sets. For example, I know very little Chinese beyond basic pleasantries, but will edit spaceflight articles extensively if I have good sources, and very much want to improve the coverage of this important emerging national space program (and especially get better coverage of the Chinese space station which will begin to launch this year).

Does anyone know a good place where I might post a solicitation looking for interested folk with Chinese-language skills and China-space interest? Cheers. N2e (talk) 23:45, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Have you tried any of China's English state run news sources (Ex:CCTV, Xinhua...)?
--Craigboy (talk) 10:03, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Article title should be changed to "Tiangong"

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Per the UK Guardian article I recently added to the article in order to cite a number of claims, the station is explicitly named "Tiangong". See the quotation I included with that source citation. I think it is time to propose changing the article name to reflect this current reality, and remove the older project name of "Project 921-2", the article's current title. N2e (talk) 06:08, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Not sure how reliable that article is N, seeing how they mislabeled China's modular station as Tiangong-1.--Craigboy (talk) 12:49, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
Found a more reliable source.
"China previously named the space lab "Tiangong" meaning heavenly palace, and the spacecraft to transport astronauts was named "Shenzhou", divine vessel. Its moon probes were named after the country's mythical Moon Goddess "Chang'e". But the names were selected without public input."We now feel that the public should be involved in the names and symbols as this major project will enhance national prestige, and strengthen the national sense of cohesion and pride," Wang said. The public is welcomed to submit suggestions for the space station and its three modules, as well as symbols for the China Manned Space Engineering Program and the space station...The result will be decided before the end of September." - http://europe.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2011-04/26/content_12395890.htm
--Craigboy (talk) 13:18, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
Fair enough. But even with a contest underway for a future name change, to be released in June or Sept. 2011 (depending on source), it would appear the "Project 921-1" is NOT the correct name even today. Thus, methinks a name change of the article in Wikipedia to Tiangong is appropriate, per several sources. N2e (talk) 20:11, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
I support the name change.--Craigboy (talk) 10:11, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
I went ahead and changed it. This article is woefully underwritten. Can you imagine if the ISS only had a page or two? Jason Quinn (talk) 10:30, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Thanks Jason for proceeding with the consensus name change. Much better title now. Now if only the article content can be similarly improved. N2e (talk) 17:31, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Relevant Sources

CG footage (2011-03-09)

(rough translation) "the cargo ship's name will be announced in advance at the end of June."-[1]

\http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-15523123 Jonjonjohny (talk) 09:23, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Photo/graphic needed

This article needs a photo or graphic of the planned space station. Here is one released by China Daily: [2]. I imagine there may be some sort of fair use rationale for using this, but I'm rather ignorant of the ways of Wikipedia images in general, and "fair use" in particular. Is anyone able to help? N2e (talk) 20:08, 1 May 2011 (UTC)


I attempted to make one a few days ago.









--Craigboy (talk) 10:14, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Craigboy, I support you putting the infobox and your graphic at the top of the page, maybe rewriting the article would be necessary a bit, making it focus on the large station, and the rest as the origins, lets get this looking more like MIR and the ISS as best we can. The more attention it attracts the better editing it will attract too. Penyulap talk 05:06, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Go ahead, you have my blessing ;) --Craigboy (talk) 18:39, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved. Boldly concluding that this is an uncontroversial case of WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Favonian (talk) 14:24, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

– The space station programme is already far more notable than the other topics on the disambiguation page (stubs about a steel manufacturer and a low-division football club, and part of the name of an encyclopaedia which doesn't have its own article). I believe that WP:PRIMARYTOPIC applies, especially since the notability of the space station programme will rise further once one is launched. GW… 13:36, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

cargo craft

according to [3] the Tiangong-1 craft will be adapted to be a cargoship. 70.24.246.151 (talk) 14:18, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

International Reaction of Concern

I think the section on domestic and international reaction is sort of POV.

It says:

The international reaction section says: The fact that China has successfully launched a person in space under its own auspices and plans to do the same with a space station has generated enormous pride within the country but has caused concern elsewhere.

"Concern" in particular is a very POV word.

It would be more neutral and far more accurate to say "it has caused jealousy elsewhere".

Son of eugene (talk) 05:03, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

That would be the opposite of a neutral point of view nor would it be accurate.--Craigboy (talk) 18:05, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

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