Talk:The Wrong Man

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BetacommandBot (talk) 02:57, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Replacing the poster[edit]

The original poster image has been replaced, claiming it's the DVD cover. It's not. Here is an image of the DVD cover. Note the "DVD" in the lower left hand corner. here is the poster. Note the lack of a "DVD" in the lower left corner. Obviously this poster was used for the DVD cover design. That said, if "consensus" prefers a different poster just so it will look different from the DVD cover (and prevent continuous claims that it is a DVD cover), fine. Just don't do it because it's a DVD cover. It's not. Of course, if this were a rational project, the possibility of showing two different posters for one film would not be out of the question. But then this is not. Dekkappai (talk) 14:23, 16 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Question about a "novel"...[edit]

Hello, could someone help me to find out the « novel The True Story of Christopher Emmanuel Balestrero mentionned here ? Nothing on Library of Congress.... Thks a lot, -- Spiessens 10:58, 21 September 2015 (UTC) [---> on Wikipedia fr] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spiessens (talk • contribs)

Patricia Morrow or Tuesday Weld[edit]

I know numerous written sources list Tuesday Weld as appearing in this film, "The Wrong Man" as one of two uncredited "giggly girls". These sources are wrong. Patricia Morrow and Bonnie Franklin are the two uncredited "giggly girls" in the film. I cannot locate Tuesday Weld in this film and I defy anyone to find her in this film. Patricia Morrow is being confused with Tuesday Weld. My attempts to correct this are edited out by well meaning but simply wrong people who think they are helping but are actually making Wikipedia less accurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quandolaluna (talk • contribs) 16:36, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You can claim sources are wrong but your opinion isn't what matters here. Verifiability matters. The sources say Tuesday Weld was in The Wrong Man so the Wikipedia article says Tuesday Weld was in The Wrong Man. Find reliable sources that say otherwise and we can have a discussion. Justeditingtoday (talk) 20:42, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The best, most reliable primary source is the film itself! Look, one guy decades ago made a mistake and printed it in a book. He confused Patricia Morrow with Tuesday Weld. Everyone repeated the error. If anyone can show me one frame of the film "The Wrong Man" which has Tuesday Weld in it, I will stand corrected. But it can't be done. You are the one relying on secondary sources. The best, most reliable primary source is the film itself! The giggly girls, uncredited, are Bonnie Franklin and Patricia Morrow. Just look at the film. Just because someone wrote it in a book doesn't mean it's right. I defy you to find Tuesday Weld in the film "The Wrong Man" directed by Alfred Hitchcock. I don't know why you won't just allow me to tag this as "disputed"; in that way, other readers will be encouraged and alerted to research the matter. If anyone would just take the trouble to view the film, it will show I'm right. Allow me to tag this as "disputed" and other readers will rush to corroborate that Tuesday Weld is not in the picture. Moreover, it is a fundamental injustice to attribute an artist's work to someone else. The secondary sources are wrong. The film itself (the primary source) plainly shows Patricia Morrow with Bonnie Franklin. Allow the tag "disputed" and soon enough readers will see this for themselves. Quandolaluna (talk) 21:12, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The ultimate primary source is the film itself! Not what someone writes about it! Just look at the scene with Bonnie Franklin: it is plain as day that it is not Tuesday Weld in that scene. It is Patricia Morrow in a small uncredited performance. It is a manifest injustice to attribute one artist's performance to another artist. Check it out: look at that scene and you will see. I defy anyone to find a single frame of "The Wrong Man" directed by Alfred Hitchcock that shows Tuesday Weld in it. Quandolaluna (talk) 23:18, 13 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know how to make this clearer: that is original research. It doesn't matter what you personally believe you saw in a film. Wikipedia is about venerability and references (which you have deleted) state Weld was in that film. Your actions are disruptive. Please cease attempting to ram your personal views into articles. I'm tired of having this same conversation across multiple articles. Please actually read the relevant policies (WP:V, WP:RS, and especially WP:OR) and stop being disruptive. Justeditingtoday (talk) 12:43, 14 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Look, I'll give this up regarding changing the article but to show you that I have obeyed the rules and to make a record in the future when someone checks this talk page and realizes I'm right (it's Patricia Morrow, not Tuesday Weld) let me quote WP:OR which you cite, "A primary source may only be used on Wikipedia to make straightforward, descriptive statements of facts that can be verified by any educated person with access to the primary source but without further, specialized knowledge. " That's what I have done. Any educated person looking at the primary source, "The Wrong Man" film itself, can plainly see that Tuesday Weld is not in the picture and that the two "giggly girls" are unmistakably Bonnie Franklin and Patricia Morrow. Bottom line: I'm right and it's plain as day to anyone watching the film without any further specialized knowledge. Quandolaluna (talk) 03:51, 15 March 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quandolaluna (talk • contribs) 03:27, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You are misreading policy and even the DRN you filed found that you were wrong. Please take the time to read the links I have provided for you. Justeditingtoday (talk) 11:04, 15 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I will not allow you the last word. I am not "wrong", as you put it. The two "giggly girls" are Bonnie Franklin and Patricia Morrow. Hence, I am right. One day the truth will out. It is unfair to both actresses to have such a manifest and obvious misattribution: Unfair to Ms. Weld and unfair to Ms. Morrow. An artist should have his/her work properly attributed. The truth will out, despite the Wikipedia and their policies. I only hope readers will check the talk page (and then go check the film itself!) and see for themselves. The primary source, the film "The Wrong Man" itself , plainly and unmistakably shows the two young ladies as being Bonnie Franklin and Patricia Morrow. Why do I protest so vehemently? Because this is not a minor point. This is a masterpiece by the great Alfred Hitchcock. One performer's work is being misattributed. It should be corrected. All I want is the truth. Someday, somewhere, people will see that I am right.Quandolaluna (talk) 06:59, 16 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Resemblance to John Brahm's "Let Us Live" (1939)[edit]

The article might additionally mention the fact that "The Wrong Man" resembles John Brahm's 1939 film noir "Let Us Live" in more than one way. Especially, the earlier movie also starred Henry Fonda playing an ordinary citizen wrongfully convicted for a crime he had not committed due to false identification by witnesses. Brahm's film, too, was based on a true story, although another one. 92.79.101.164 (talk) 12:27, 9 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]