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Why Hotwiki's Edit Had To Be Changed[edit]

1) I cleaned up the episode descriptions because of their poor grammar and incorrect sentence constructions. Take the first one alone.

"Guidice awaits the release of her husband from prison and immigration detention facility transferral, while rumors of her having an affair spreads out. Aydin posted a video about Goldschneider on Instagram, who believes the cheating allegations about Guidice. At a company party for Aydin's husband, Aydin confronts Goldschneider."

In the first sentence, "Guidice" is not awaiting "the release of her husband from prison" and "immigration detention facility transferral" -- she is awaiting "the release of her husband from prison" and *his* "immigration detention facility transferral." Without identifying this switch in ownership, the thought is unclear.

Also in the first sentence, "rumors" is a plural noun, therefore they would not "spreads"; they would "spread."

In the second sentence, the clause after the comma (starting with "who") intends to modify "Goldschneider," but this has it modifying "Instagram," which is not a "who" and cannot be accurately modified as "believes the cheating allegations about Guidice."

This is just one paragraph. There are others that had similar problems.

2) I took out last names in episode descriptions so they would be consistent with the other Housewives articles. Check out the Season 9 page. The Season 8 page. The Season 7 page. They all refer to the women using their first names. That's the standard on Wiki pages for Housewives; that's how it should be done here as well.

3) I took out any opinion that was masquerading as a fact, because this is against the rules. Here are three examples.

"The feud between Goldschneider and Catania drags"

"Drags" is opinionated language -- that is Hotwiki telling us what that drama feels like to him/her. A more accurate, neutral term would be "continues."

"Goldschneider talks about the challenges with her eating disorder, and uses it as her storyline for the season."

Labeling the material that Jackie discusses in this episode as a "storyline" is opinionated language -- that is a characterization that stretches the bounds of pure description, especially when it's not applied to anyone else's material. What's more, it's unnecessary; isn't every narrative on a TV show a storyline?

"The reunion concludes as original cast member Danielle Staub says her goodbye to her former best friend Guidice, after three seasons of the show as a friend and providing the show plenty of moments."

"Providing the show plenty of moments" is an opinionated characterization of what Danielle did during her tenure on the show and it is unnecessary -- it is not a description of the episode in question. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Upperco (talk • contribs) 07:46, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Can you direct me to the Wikipedia's guidelines for Real Housewives? Because there isn't. People are mentioned through their last name rather than their 1st name. Get familiarized with Wikipedia guidelines and manual of style for Television articles. You have edited 1 article in the past three days, only to exhibit disruptive editing and ownership of an article. You were also reverted by 3 different editors and you completely broke Wikipedia's rule of 3RR. The latter is a big offense that could lead to being blocked. You were also warned in your talk page by two different editors and still went ahead by reverting this article to your preferred version. I suggest you stop making more disruptive edits. Thank you. TheHotwiki (talk) 08:41, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How are the women labeled in the episode descriptions of the other nine seasons of THE REAL HOUSEWIVES OF NEW JERSEY? By their first names.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Real_Housewives_of_New_Jersey_(season_9)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Real_Housewives_of_New_Jersey_(season_8)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Real_Housewives_of_New_Jersey_(season_7)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Real_Housewives_of_New_Jersey_(season_6)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Real_Housewives_of_New_Jersey_(season_5)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Real_Housewives_of_New_Jersey_(season_4)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Real_Housewives_of_New_Jersey_(season_3)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Real_Housewives_of_New_Jersey_(season_2)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Real_Housewives_of_New_Jersey_(season_1)

Also, you have no defense for the bad grammar/sentence construction, which is below this website's standards, or the opinionated editorializing, which is a clear breach of the rules. The latter is a big offense that could lead to you being blocked. Get familiarized with Wikipedia guidelines. Thank you. Upperco (talk) 13:12, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The episode descriptions from those articles you mentioned, were copy and paste descriptions from Bravo which aren't allowed here in Wikipedia. They would be removed if I were to report those articles for copyright violations. Also, if you didn't notice - none of those articles were submitted yet for peer review/article review. So If I send those articles for article review and peer review, those would be questioned. Those articles aren't also aren't the gold standard for Real Housewives articles especially there's no guideline how to run a Real Housewives page, there is however a Manual of Style for Television articles which you are probably unaware. Those articles and this one will be send to peer review as a result of your actions. Thank you TheHotwiki (talk) 16:45, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Wonderful. Can't wait for your rule-breaking editorializing to be peer reviewed, along with your excellent command of grammar and sentence construction.

Oh, and here's an excerpt from the Manual you cited. Would be great if you read it. Thank you.

"All names should be referred to as credited, or by common name supported by a reliable source. For unscripted shows where cast are referred to in a program by a stage name or first name only, that name should be used in episode descriptions, but their full proper name (where available) should be used in cast lists. In subsequent sections dealing with real-world information, their surname should be used."

Upperco (talk) 19:38, 11 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]