Talk:The Loneliness of the Long-Distance Runner

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Hyphen in Title[edit]

Why isn't there a hyphen in "Long-Distance"? That's how it appears on the book cover pictured. Iglew (talk) 08:51, 18 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Analysis Section[edit]

Do think this is valid? I find it appropriate, particularly when observing this passage: "I'd rather be like I am...than have the whip-hand over somebody else and be dead from the toe nails up. Maybe as soon as you get the whip-hand over somebody you do go dead. By God, to say that last sentence has needed a few hundred miles of long-distance running," (pg. 14, Alfred A. Knopf 5th edition 1970). There are another couple passages that provide good evidence, shout out if anyone has a problem with it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Latvahat (talkcontribs) 00:12, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure where to put this, but there are huge and clearly apparent issues with objectivity in this article.

I agree. The "Historical Context" section is very weak. The pure economic (Marxist maybe) analysis of the motivations of the Angry Young Men does not belong here. I'm not even sure why there is such an extensive "Historical Context" that should be in "Angry Young Men", surely, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.244.199.134 (talk) 14:21, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This "analysis" is nothing but biased trash. Was it copy-pasted in from conservapedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.251.189.178 (talk) 01:02, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with the writer above. This section is utterly amateurish rubbish. It is very badly written, poorly argued or explained, subjective and biased, lacking proper referencing, and naive and lacking any sophistication in style or content whatsoever. Is this cut and pasted from a struggling junior secondary school student's homework assignment, copied from somebody who is struggling with English as a second language? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.201.100.168 (talk) 14:55, 17 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Well, after some ten years of nothing happening I've decided to take an axe to most of the material, as argued for here and in another section below. I would have preferred to delete all these bits wholesale, but in the interest of representing the "research" this was based on I've left a skeletal core that sums up the ideas of the articles as presented here originally, while removing anything outright unsupported or of only tangible relevance. Palindromedairy (talk) 22:15, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Split into...[edit]

The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner, "The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner (song)", and The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner (film)? Her Pegship 04:53, 17 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The current article looks like a collection of stubs, but IMHO it's still better than three stubs. I'm against the proposed split. --Kjoonlee 16:57, 23 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Definitely for the split... the page reads like a disambiguation page with too much information as it is. -DMurphy 02:51, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely needs to be split and even for the Alan Sillitoe's collection of short stories with the same title. --Capitalg 20:54, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Against the split for now, but if the sections on the film and the story grow considerably in the future than perhaps split it into two articles with the music section put into the story's article.Soltake (talk) 01:12, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know whether there was consensus to create it, but I've just moved the dab page so that at least it's spelled right! PamD (talk) 17:10, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I vote to create The "Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner (book)" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pathfinder1993 (talkcontribs) 23:18, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poem[edit]

I think, though I am not certain (can anyone verify?) that the film uses the poem 'The Song of the Ungirt Runners' by Charles Hamilton Sorley. If it is the film I'm thinking of then there should probably be a link to Sorley.

I agree it should be split for better understanding

Musical Adaptations section[edit]

"Long Distance Runner" means anyone who runs long distances. This phrase alone does not relate to the story. If the two songs mentioned with this title are indeed adaptations of the story, we need some kind of reference to establish that. I am removing them until such is provided. 77.49.210.200 (talk) 00:16, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Historical Context[edit]

The historical context section mostly reads like a gender studies essay on post-war England, and seems to have been this way for quite some time now. Would be great if someone could find the time to drastically shorten or re-write it. Haltendehand (talk) 20:48, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to tackle this, though realistically the section is pretty much unsalvageable in both content and writing quality and I'll likely just wind up axing it entirely. My god it is terrible. Palindromedairy (talk) 01:58, 10 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]