Talk:The American Metaphysical Circus

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Overpraised?[edit]

Hmmm. It seems to me that the praise lavished on this album on this page is way out of proportion to how I remember it - which is that it came as a huge disappointment after the United States of America album. In fact, this is the first time I can recall anything very positive being written about it at all. I'll dig it out and listen to it again - but reserve the right to edit what I think is a very POV article. If Mr Byrd reads this comment - sorry ! Ghmyrtle 08:57, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The best way to measure this record's success is its longevity in the CBS catalog and pricing in the collector's market, both of which I have extensive first hand knowledge of, as well as its effects during the time it was released. The USA record was a cutout within a year or two of its release, while TAMC remained in print for twenty years - because Columbia kept selling the record so consistenty - I was directly in the business at that time, as well as producing record collector shows. I talked with Joe Byrd about this "stuff" first hand in the early 2000's while he was still teaching full-time - my knowledge is first hand. It's actually only in the last decade that the USA stuff has gotten more attention, especially in the UK, as the Joe Byrd article references. And yes, there are two camps on his stuff of that era and a lot of USA people never cared for TAMC, but TAMC is historically regarded as decribed here - I try not to publish anything anywhere I don't know firsthand, and I write for a major US newspaper group. Hope that helps - thanks! Tvccs 22:25, 14 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Look at the amazon reviews referenced in the body as well...5 of 5 stars...and Columbia re-releasing it AFTER One-Way...how odd is that?! Tvccs 01:05, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
OK - but just one point - it's not the case at all that the USA was obscure or forgotten in the UK until recently - "Garden of Earthly Delights" was a well-known single at the time (at least on radio - it may not have sold much) and "Wooden Wife" was featured on one of the v cheap CBS sampler albums which must have sold hundreds of thousands - almost every UK music fan who was a certain age in 1969 must have owned it. There was a point back then when, in the UK, the USA were as widely known and referenced as, say, the Velvet Underground or Spirit who were around at the same time, and plenty of people picked up on that album - hence the later interest from people like Portishead and Broadcast. I'm not sure, but I don't think the Field Hippies album actually got a UK release - I think my copy was an import. (Haven't excavated the vinyl mountain that deep yet !) Ghmyrtle 08:41, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I know Byrd's a lot more popular in Europe...I have a note into him...but I never heard of...even in Europe...that record staying in print long...it was dumped here in no time. I'll see if I can get some first-hand info on that one...thanks. Tvccs 20:18, 15 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I just spoke with Joseph Byrd for about an hour after getting a lengthy e-mail from him...and I mentioned a couple of the things you said. If there's any way you can lay your hands on this UK sampler you spoke of, scan the cover front/back, and identify what USA track was on it...we'd both like to know - it was news to him as well, and he'd love to see it. If you really wanna have "fun", I have permission from him to create a Lyrwiki for TAMC, as there is already one for USA - I don't have the record where I can get my hands on it. Any thoughts? I am going to see if I can find this sampler as well. Thanks for any and all assistance, and for your input already - very helpful. Tvccs 22:12, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Actually...I see you already identified the single and sampler track...thanks...looking for the art now. Tvccs 22:17, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I liked this one better than the USA one, but both fantastic?--18:26, 27 October 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Radh (talk • contribs)

By the way...[edit]

..who was Pot? (credited as a co-writer and conductor with Byrd on the album, and also on piano and harpsichord) Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:59, 10 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Pot" was/is Phillip Namanworth - http://phillipnamanworth.com/bio.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.117.255.207 (talk) 07:38, 21 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Answered after over nine and a half years! Thank you! Ghmyrtle (talk) 17:16, 21 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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