Talk:Terry Gilliam/Archives/2019

Academy award awarded

Terry Gilliam won an Academy Award as Best Supporting Actress for his role in The Fisher King? Don't think so... According to the Wikitable "Academy awards" he did. anyone? Equinoxepart5 (talk) 18:07, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Could you link to the page you've seen saying he won this award? I cannot find it. Mercedes Ruehl won the award for her part in The Fisher King. DuncanHill (talk) 14:23, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, I see what you mean now. The table should include the names of the nominees, or restrict itself to awards for which Gilliam himself was nominated. DuncanHill (talk) 14:29, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

No mention of his support of a convicted rapist?

There is no mention of his support of convicted felon Roman Polanski. Should this be added?

For those who apparently can't handle the truth about this individual, here is a link to the petition he chose to attach his name to.

[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:802:8003:2040:88e6:9c8c:14b1:cad9 (talk • contribs)

Given that over 100 other people also supported Polanski, can you provide any sources to establish that Gilliam's support was considered particularly controversial in some manner? DonIago (talk) 20:21, 29 November 2016 (UTC)

All of them are controversial, but apparently no one cares about entertainers supporting entertainers who rape children. It would seem no one on wikipedia is willing to tolerate this information posted on their favorite entertainers' pages. Strange that the names of his parents is considered pertinent information but his support of criminals isn't.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:802:8002:500:c5dc:f559:d51a:b1a1 (talk • contribs)

If it's controversial then providing a source should be easy enough. DonIago (talk) 19:01, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

A source has been provided, however I accept that supporting child rape isn't a big deal as long as people like your creative efforts. After all, it wasn't "rape rape", right? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:802:8002:500:F54A:9583:6FD8:3808 (talk) 22:28, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

"After all, it wasn't "rape rape", right?"

In Roman Polanski's case, we have a detailed article on the Roman Polanski sexual abuse case. He offered 13-year-old model Samantha Gailey some champagne, which had been spiked with methaqualone ("Quaalude"). He then performed oral, vaginal, and anal sex on her, while ignoring her protests.

Not only was the sex not consensual to begin with, but it involves the use of a date rape drug.

However, support for Polanski is commonplace. France, Poland, and Switzerland have all opposed extraditing Polanski to the United States. According to a public manifesto in support of Polanski: "Roman Polanski is a French citizen, an artist of international reputation, now threatened to be extradited. This extradition, if brought into effect, would carry a heavy load of consequences as well as deprive the film-maker of his freedom."

Frédéric Mitterrand defended Polanski, because Polanski "always said how much he loves France, and he is a wonderful man". Dimadick (talk) 12:33, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

@Doniago: Over 100 other people signing it does not make Gilliam's own support less controversial. I'm not sure what the problem is with the source I originally provided. Celebrities opinions in relation to politics or whatever are often included on their articles so I do not see why this shouldn't be. But how about these: source 1, source 2, source 3? Source 1 does not mention Gilliam by name but is about the support of Polanski in general – sources 2 and 3 do include his name. Abbyjjjj96 (talk) 02:34, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

You have missed the point. Is there some source that indicates why Gilliam's support of Polanski is particularly critical to Gilliam's career and biography in a way it isn't to all those other signatories? Why is this detail WP-worthy? Grandpallama (talk) 10:05, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Troy

I have added entries in the section of the article titled Projects in development or shelved in which Gilliam turned down offers to direct such films as Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988), Forrest Gump (1994), Braveheart (1995) and one of the sequels to Alien (1979). I learned about this information via my discovery of this link from Google Books, which also mentions that Gilliam turned down the offer to direct Troy (2004) after reading five pages of the script. Since the publisher of the Google Books link is Lulu.com, a self-publisher, would I be violating WP:SELFPUB if I were to add the Troy entry to the section using Lulu.com as its reference? Hitcher vs. Candyman (talk) 19:11, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Future projects

Everything listed under future projects are actually items from 3-6 years old. Did any of these pan out? Are any still in development? At what point do we remove all of it? ---The Old Jacobite_{The '45} 12:07, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

TheOldJacobite We could merge certain sections, specifically Terry Gilliam#Production problems, Terry Gilliam#Projects in development or shelved and Terry Gilliam#Future projects, into one section and title it "Unrealized projects". This is common in other Wikipedia BLP articles about filmmakers such as William Friedkin#Unrealized projects and Nicolas Winding Refn#Unrealized projects. I even created such a section at Frank Oz#Unrealized projects. We could do the same for the Gilliam article, and if that section becomes sizable enough, we could even create an article titled Terry Gilliam's unrealized projects. That's what I did when I created Michael Cimino's unrealized projects. I'm just making a couple of suggestions, that's all. Hitcher vs. Candyman (talk) 19:22, 18 August 2019 (UTC)