Talk:Telopea speciosissima

GA Review

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Some comments:

• Its closest relative is the very similar Gibraltar Range Waratah (T. aspera) from Northern New South Wales, which was only recognised as a separate species in 1995. - Does this mean it was discovered in 1995, or it was thought to be a subspecies of T. speciosissima up until that year?

(the latter - tried a reword) Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:32, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

• The seven-word paragraph at the end of the "Cultivation" seems rather lonely. Can it be merged with another paragraph?

yup - was tired when I hit the sack last night. Done Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:34, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

• Telopea 'Corroboree' - form with extended styles... - I'm not sure what that this means.

(longer) Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:32, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

• arose as a seedling in a breeding program conducted by Cathy Offord, Peter Goodwin and Paul Nixon under the auspices of the University of Sydney. - This bit appears twice. Perhaps its second usage can be summarized and tweaked a bit to avoid repetition?

rewoded 2nd instance to " in the same breeding program by the University of Sydney mentioned above" Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:32, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

Otherwise looks great; informative, well-sourced, and beautifully illustrated. I made multiple little grammar fixes myself, but I found no major issues. Once my above comments have been addressed I'll pass the article. Cheers, –Juliancolton | ^Talk 14:25, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

More "Symbolic and artistic references".

Would it be appropriate to also mention that the David Jones symbol is a stylised waratah, given that there is a reference to Arnotts? Old_Wombat (talk) 07:16, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

You're not thinking of the Grace Bros logo by any chance?--Melburnian (talk) 12:24, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

(blush) my mistake ... yes, you are correct.... OK, here's version 2 of the question: Would it be appropriate to also mention that the Grace Brothers symbol is a stylised waratah, given that there is a reference to Arnotts? Old_Wombat (talk) 08:32, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Are there any objections if I go ahead and do this? Old_Wombat (talk) 08:32, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

The Grace Bros mention was already there, but I added the bit about stylised + logo.Melburnian (talk) 10:51, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Nice :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Can we mention that the Sydney suburb of Telopea is named after the Waratah? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.9.151.254 (talk) 20:20, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Drove along Bell's Line of Road last week. That whole section between Mount Victoria and Mount Tomar Botanic Garden had literally hundreds of waratahs (as in, wild ones) flowering along the side of the road. In fact there are far, far more now than there were 11 years ago when we first moved to the area. Good to see! And this is despite the obviously growing number of people that quite brazenly cut the flowers from the plants beside the road. Old_Wombat (talk) 10:35, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

The logo of the NSW State Government is a stylised waratah. Question is, is this the same concept as the already mentioned "... The floral emblem for its home state of New South Wales..." . Old_Wombat (talk) 10:38, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

illustrations lacking

There is no single illustration in the article that clearly shows the shrub, as opposed to the flower. We have one illo that shows in the far distance, a tiny flower on the top of a long stalk. The other overall plant picture is just a mass of green next to another mass of (similar looking green) and thus is actually confusing. We also have an overabundance of shots of the flower itself. Think about if this were an article in National Geographic or a scientific review of the plant.

FA criteria include adequate illustration and this article is poorly illustrated. Jus finding some random snapshots to ornament the walls of text (and not even discussing quality, just checking rights status, as was done in the FAC review) does not lead to "near professional quality" work. Think of the sort of article that one would read in Natural History. Of how the editor of that magazine would want it to look. For the readers.18:02, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Consider this example. For that matter just snapping a pic of the plant overall seems pretty feasible. Discussing the anatomy of the plant (article is actually on the plant, not the flower) would be helped by a good overall picture.18:18, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Good point, but there is a whole-plant photo at the top right of the Ecology section in its native habitat, and there is another of a shrub further down the article. I'd be great to get one of a lignotuberous base though. Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:54, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, and I discussed that above (far distance stalk, hard to see anything, not a good overall picture of the shrub itself). Perhaps if you cropped it?22:35, 6 October 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.255.27.249 (talk)

I think the picture of the shrub in bushland suits the ecology section well and illustrates the natural habitat. However it would probably be good to have a picture of a single cultivated plant in full flower to replace the first photo in the cultivation section. Melburnian (talk) 00:15, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

They're in flower now - took some photos at Mt Annan Bot. Garden. Will take a look for some others. Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:04, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

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