Talk:Tardive psychosis

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This page has not identified this concept clearly enough as an unproven phenomena. It needs work. Hopefully someone can help it out. Preferably with some medical literature.

Unreadable statements such as these don't help:

"Although tardive psychosis continues to be studied, it still has not been established as a fact but it is known that the study classes of antipsychotics such as the NMDA Receptor Modulators (glutamate antagonists) in not creating tardive dyskinesia will not create this condition."

and

"Although tardive psychosis and the little understood hypothetical condition tardive dysmentia have been used as reasons for the anti-psychiatry movement that antipsychotics are too dangerous to use in clinical practice, they are actually potential reasons for the continued research and realization of new antipsychotics in development that cannot create them."

I think this article may be the result of one editor and substantiated by no controlled studies. Culprit: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20081016/msgs/857981.html ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.64.29 (talk) 20:15, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

this theory is nearly untraceable and severely admixed with supersensitivity[edit]

I would prefer to nominate this article for deletion. as stated above it is primarily the work of one person with two resources and uncited facts. google turns up nearly nothing, except quotes of wikipedia and anecdotal forum posts.

However, it turns out that supersensitivity, somehow equated but not the same, is indeed a significant medical topic. I have restored that text here, which is needed because the wikipedia supersensitivity "article" currently redirects here, lol.

I can't find a genuine origin for the tardive psychosis term. My cited Palmenstierna 1988 "does it exist?" article blames Chouinard, 1978 for originating "tardive psychosis or supersensitivity." But Chouinard only says supersensitivity psychosis, never tardive psychosis, in 1978 nor in 1980. Annoyingly, the term "supersensitivity" seems to have evolved to abandon the medication resistance theory which was part of Chouinard's proposal, and instead focuses on the unexpected withdrawal psychosis.

the six NIH entries titled "tardive psychosis" (must use quotes) have no abstracts. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term="tardive+psychosis". The oldest, a search result 1978 article by mccarthy may have coined the term, but it's not freely available. http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/abs/10.1176/ajp.135.5.625-b

Palmenstierna 1988 indicated the medication resistance isn't real (10 cases ever) and thus proposed the "multiple issues" theory. And conversely, there are tons of supersensitivity - meaning WITHDRAWAL - studies. Clozapine is favorite. And if you query tardive psychosis without quotes, you get those, plus the more significant tardive dyskinesia, which turns out to be a REALLY important problem.

I'm not happy about any of this, least of all the need for an article I have zero interest in writing. I am probably going to slap a few sentences there with cites. If you dislike it, please just don't replace the redirect. I'd rather copy this whole article there than let this continue. Maybe that's what I should do. Ukrpickaxe (talk) 17:52, 4 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]