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Layang Layang vs Swallow Reef[edit]

As evinced by the links, Layang Layang is overwhelmingly the most popular name for this place, although I suppose an argument could be made that Swallow Reef is more neutral. Move or stay put? Jpatokal 09:31, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Use the neutral name Swallow Reef. STSC (talk) 13:03, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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More info[edit]

It's a pity there is no image of the island - in this case, an image tells at least more than hundred words, a quick google image search reveals that the whole island is nothing except for an artificially built airport plus some buildings (including a hotel with 76 rooms and 10 suites, ref http://www.geo-dive.com/regions/far_east/malaysia/layang_layang.php). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.191.122.72 (talk) 13:46, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

An explanation why Philippines doesn't claim Swallow Reef[edit]

Not surprisingly you may assume the Philippines also claims Swallow Reef if you haven't read Republic of the Philippines's Baseline Law (2009). Here's the unchallengeable evidence: Link. Go there and check Republic Act No. 9522.

a) The Kalayaan Island Group as constituted under Presidential Decree No. 1596
— Republic Act No. 9522

The Philippines officially keeps the definition of Kalayaan Island Group coined by Ferdinand Marcos's Decree No. 1596 (1978). There's no change. Philippines claims most of the Spratlys, not all of the archipelago. Spratly Island (proper), Swallow Reef, Royal Charlotte Reef, Ladd Reef, those banks near Vietnam, Louisa Reef near Malaysia,...are all out of Philippines' claim. Autumnyear (talk) 02:15, 5 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Size of reclaimed land area?[edit]

(Selectively copied from: User talk:Lisan1233#Swallow Reef)

Where did you find the 35 ha area figure? (i.e. A useful reference would be ..., "useful".) Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:17, 24 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Some info on Chinese bbs, no official source.-Lisan1233 (talk) 01:52, 25 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.godeyes.cn/html/2012/04/16/google_earth_13067.html - Lisan1233 (talk) 13:40, 25 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Which bit of the article mentions the area of Swallow Reef? Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 14:55, 25 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

"陆地面积大约0.35平方公里（原有沙洲面积不足0.1平方公里）"-"land covers 0.35 km2 (natural cay less than 0.1 km2)"-Lisan1233 (talk) 02:01, 26 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]