Talk:Scottish Challenge Cup

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Wrong title[edit]

Hi. This article is incorrectly titled. This is not a "Challenge Cup for teams in Scotland", as the current title implies. This is a "Challenge Cup for Scottish Football League teams", as sourced here for the season 2006/07.

I am of the opinion that this article should actually be named Scottish Football League Challenge Cup, with all other redirects leading to it as parent, and so as to keep it in line with the preferred title, gleaned from the League's official website and accessed through the above link. A consensus might be useful on this. Thanks. Ref ^(chew)(do) 21:36, 17 June 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Apparently, Wikipedia naming conventions prefer "the most popularly used title", and not a precise title, so I am striking the call for consensus as unnecessary, as the article appears to be correctly titled under those guidelines. Thanks. Ref ^(chew)(do) 23:03, 18 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Last win/last final lost[edit]

Not sure why we're giving the year that the seasons conclude (i.e., Ross County won the 2006-07 final (in November 2006), so they've been listed as the 2007 winners). - Dudesleeper · Talk 18:24, 25 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Wrong Title[edit]

I would dispute that Scottish Challenge Cup is the most pouplarly used title for this competition, more often than not you will see it referred to in the press as Scottish League Challenge Cup, Scottish Football League Challenge Cup (it's proper title) or even SFL Challenge Cup, although within Scotland "Scottish" will often be superfluous and omitted. Given the introduction this season of the SFA Challenge Cup North and South, which compensate for the demise of the Scottish Qualifying Cup, then it seems to me there is agood case to reconsider how this article's title and avoid confusion. - Jamesrpx (talk) 15:03, 20 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Region:incorrect status[edit]

Why is Scotland described as a region? Of where, or of what, exactly? It is a constituent country of the United Kingdom and, in footballing terms, it is a full member country of UEFA and FIFA. Perhaps the section should be omitted, as it is obvious that the Cup is played in Scotland? I give notice that I intend to edit it. Ceartas 23:31, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Clachnacuddin F.C.[edit]

In the format section, the article states that "Buckie Thistle and Clachnacuddin" entered this season's competition. However, the source cited says that the two clubs were actually Buckie Thistle and Deveronvale. I would have simply replaced Clachnacuddin with Deveronvale, but it struck me to be rather odd that Clachnacuddin were there in the first place. I'm finding it hard to fathom how that club's name came into this article, when they are not mentioned at all in the source. As a result, I have become concerned that Clachnacuddin have perhaps been entered into some other competition, which I am not aware of, and that is what has caused the mistake. Rather than make the change now, I am just wondering if anybody is capable of answering my concerns. Redv Blue 22:46, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad you pointed that out because you are correct, it was Deveronvale that entered and not Clachnacuddin. Cal Umbra (talk) 23:02, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Scottish Challenge Cup/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Oldelpaso (talk · contribs) 21:43, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is one of those concise topics perfectly suited to GA. I found very little to take issue with while reading through. There were a few phrasing/grammatical things, but they were easier to fix myself as I went along.

What makes the following reliable sources? bettermeddle.org.uk, stmirren.info?

I have removed and replaced the two sources mentioned above with newspaper sources. Cal Umbra 12:28, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why does “Clubs in the top-tier are ineligible to compete” need three references?

Removed excessive referencing. Cal Umbra 23:58, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

”The venue may be switched to that of the away team or changed to a neutral venue for security reasons such as being unable to host a club with a large travelling fan base or the venue being unavailable” - are the two occasions in the references the only two, or just examples? If they are the only two occasions, then they might as well be named individually.

The change for a large travelling fan base is the only occasion I am aware of - Brechin City were drawn at home to Rangers and their home stadium was questioned on its suitability to host a large crowd and was suggested to be moved to Dens Park in Dundee but Brechin ended up hosting it in the end. The reference for the venue being unavailable is just one example of when the venue has changed to a neutral venue due to availability issues. Cal Umbra 00:19, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

We learn that the competition lasted more than one season due to popularity, but what is the situation today? Is it still a popular competition, or has its reputation changed? How do early round attendances compare to league matches, for instance?

I have added a section about the competition's popularity in particular with smaller clubs. Cal Umbra 12:28, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I have made a comparison of average attendances in the Scottish Football League Third Division with the matches in the earlier rounds (they tend to be quite similar). Noted that attendances generally increase in the latter stages of the tournament. (I have used Annan Athletic as an example in both cases). Cal Umbra 13:02, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Were there any specific reasons cited for the decision to invite Highland League clubs? (aside from the obvious effect of 32 clubs making the draw easier). How are the Highland clubs chosen?

Can't find any reasons other than to make the draw even. Also added explanation on how the two Highland League clubs are chosen (the two highest ranked clubs in the league with a valid Scottish Football Association license). Cal Umbra 23:58, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Oldelpaso (talk) 21:43, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the quick responses. The changes look good, and I have passed the nomination. Oldelpaso (talk) 16:47, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]