Talk:Scherzo in D minor (Rachmaninoff)

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Why mention Mendelssohn's Octet?[edit]

The Scherzo's model is not so much the Scherzo of Felix Mendelssohn's Octet as the equivalent movement of that composer's music for A Midsummer Night's Dream.

I really can't see the point of mentioning the Octet, particularly as we immediately deny the Scherzo has anything to do with it. It's a bit like saying "Barack Obama is not so much of Vietnamese descent, but Kenyan". I removed the Octet reference, but it's been restored. Those words may have appeared in some uncited source, but it would have been in the context of some discussion about works modelled on the Octet, which Rachmaninoff's Scherzo wasn't. -- JackofOz (talk) 21:59, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A footnote has been added. That sentence is included verbatim in the source. I agree that its really only necessary to talk about what the influence *is* and not what it *is not*. Perhaps the other editor thinks the whole sentence is necessary? I agree with you, though. I don't think the Octet reference is needed.DavidRF (talk) 01:56, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Well, I can't even understand why the source made any mention of it to begin with. In any event, we're certainly not supposed to be quoting sources verbatim, but to be paraphrasing the information in our own words. This reference has no place in the article, so I'll be removing it. -- JackofOz (talk) 02:15, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]