Talk:San Francisco–Oakland–Berkeley, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area

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MSA renamed to San Francisco–Oakland–Hayward?[edit]

I can't find any explanation why, but for the 2011 population estimate, the Census referred to this MSA as San Francisco–Oakland–Fremont.[1] For the 2012 estimate, it was referred to San Francisco–Oakland–Hayward.[2] The 2013 estimate should be coming out soon, which would confirm that it's a permanent name change. This article may need to be renamed accordingly. Minesweeper (talk) 05:57, 16 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The latest release is out and once again this metro is referred to as San Francisco–Oakland–Hayward[3], so I'm going to rename this page and update some references.

Fixing the page[edit]

This page needs a lot of work, looking at other Metro Area articles I've seen that San Francisco's is no where near as detailed and that needs to be fixed, it needs to be known as the San Francisco metro Area, for its own MSA and San Francisco Bay Metro Area for its CSA, and the page needs an info box added as well (Ladygaga328 (talk) 01:24, 26 July 2014 (UTC))[reply]

The condition of this article is most likely another symptom of the systemic bias of Wikipedia. Both this five-county MSA and the 12-county CSA do not have much local usage, and thus may seem almost like "fabrications" of the Office of Management and Budget. When most people think of the Bay Area metro area, they most likely think about the common nine-county area, including Sonoma, Napa, Solano and Santa Clara Counties -- not a county as east as San Joaquin or an area as south as the southern tip of San Benito County. Because the MSA and the CSA are foreign to most people, it is not surprising it gets few editors. But feel free to go ahead and fix it. I myself do not think either the MSA or the CSA should have separate articles, and should be merged back into the main San Francisco Bay Area article. Zzyzx11 (talk) 06:19, 10 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]